I cold-bloodedly murdered an innocent woodland creature today,

[Dave Reynolds]

so I could indulge in my non-evolved, inhumane lust for meat.

And I am not sorry.

:popcorn:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

1. Deer?

I won't eat it, but respect the people who hunt and eat them or donate the meat to needy families. A lot of people do that around here. It's the people who just do it for the kill and the head that piss me off.
Duckie

[Dave Reynolds]

6. Yep, deer.

I have never hunted for antlers, I only want to fill the freezer.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

41. Yer a good man, Charlie Brown.

I knew I always liked you! :pals:
Duckie

[madrchsod]

65. nothing better than baby back rib roast

cooked with red wine and red potatoes in a clay pot..make some gravy,corn,squash,and some gravy and a glass of some fine cranberry wine and i`d say that`s pretty much a meal made in heaven

[Gormy Cuss]

2. Out squirrel hunting again?

It's a helluva way to get dinner, but there's nothing illegal about it.
:evilgrin:

[Dave Reynolds]

7. I like squirrel,

I just have to get past the whole eating a furry rat thing....

[Lochloosa]

53. This will help...squirrels don't eat meat like a rat...nuts and stuff only

[havocmom]

3. That cat demonstrating to you how to live off the land?

:evilgrin:

I should have taken some pictures of the carcass pinatas for dogs hunters hang on a big frame at a motel here in my area. Sometimes I really do fear a dog or two will drop dead from exhaustion after jumping up all day, trying to bring those deer down off that rack. One dog managed to pull a haunch off a prime doe last year. It dragged its trophy up and down several streets, showing it off to dogs behind fences.

How are things?

[Dave Reynolds]

8. Yep, the little kitty

said to bring him some fresh stuff, he did not like the little brown circles from the bag any more....

And his wish is my command.

And things are okay, thanks. How about you?

[havocmom]

15. Since the cat found post, my world is better.

I do savor those happy stories! We take sustenance where we find it*

*lesson taught to me by a wise old feline

edit: da momma can't type and sneeze at the same time... cleanup in the keyboard aisle!

[Dave Reynolds]

19. Hope I did not tarnish that story with this,

I love animals, but have a strange dichotomy about eating some of them.

[Paladin]

4. WARNING:

Reading or participating in this thread is guaranteed to result in unwanted growth of back hair.......

[Dave Reynolds]

10. Is there such a thing

as unwanted back hair?

Well, I never.....(huff)(stomp foot)

[Jamastiene]

67. Yep, chances are participating in this thread

indicates the growth of back hair started a long time ago.

[uppityperson]

5. probably let your kids run wild in public places also

:popcorn: :toast:

[Dave Reynolds]

11. And I let them smoke!

I would breast feed them, but my moobs are non-productive.

[flvegan]

9. At least you can admit it, with no apologies, friend.

There's something to be said for that.

[Dave Reynolds]

13. Yep, it is one thing I think we have come to an understanding

about. I'm a killa, but it is better (to me, at least) than factory farmed, hormone-injected mystery meat.

And, he did not suffer, did not take another step. On what little honor I possess, I do not even get a thrill from the kill.

[flvegan]

22. And you understand that I detest your action, yet

I don't detest you. That said, I also understand and begrudgingly agree that if you are to eat 10, 20, 30 pounds of meat (I'm guessing here) that came from an animal you killed suddenly and humanely, I have to agree that it's better than the same number of pounds of meat from a factory farmed animal.

We HAVE come a long way, haven't we, sir?

[Dave Reynolds]

25. Indeed.

I understand your view on this matter. I'm not even sure how much meat will come from the venture, I'm guessing about 50.

And, there are no pictures.

There can be personal respect, even between people with radically different viewpoints. It is a good thing.

[flvegan]

30. I have no idea on the math, but

how many meals, so to speak, is 50 lbs good for?

I'm genuinely curious. I won't backlash with a "you killed an animal for X meals!!!!!" type of a thing, as I think you know.

And I'm a firm believer in that you and I can fight, tooth and nail over what we don't agree upon, but God help the fool that comes between us on what we DO agree upon. So, there's nothing but personal respect.

[Dave Reynolds]

31. My wife and I are trying to watch our portions,

so we try to eat no more than an 8 ounce serving of meat once a day.

So, about a pound a meal for 50 meals.

That is perfect-world calculation, in real life we will give some away to friends and family who may not be able to make it to the grocery store as often as we can.

And on another note, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources has over 9000 unclaimed doe permits for the deer management unit I reside in. I do have plans to take at least one of them to supplement our food supply during the heating months.

And while I would expect the attacks from others, you seem to be a good guy about intelligent argument. I'm still learning that part!

[flvegan]

34. So is that

a pound a meal per person, or total on the meal? In other words, will 50 pounds garner 50 meals? I figure it must be.

However, what you give to friends and family will also lessen the factory farm meat draw, yes? At least in a pure sense, right?

I have no idea what the deer management unit is doing where you live, so I'll just not even sniff around there.

I appreciate your statement. As for learning, you do a great job of staying civil and on-topic. However, I want to hear you say that you've learned something about discussing hunting from a vegan. C'mon...say it...

And I hope you don't, in the future, write us all off as whackos or terrorists. Even if they have an @peta.org e-mail address. I don't think you have, but, we got a deal?

[Dave Reynolds]

38. Yep, 50 pounds for 50 meals.

And I never thought of the giving away venison as decreasing the factory meat demand. Maybe so, maybe not....it honestly is not my motive. But if it helps, that is okay by me.

I can learn things from everyone, even vegans ;-)

And there are whackos in every group, I only need to look in my own family to know that. So yep, we have a deal sir.

[flvegan]

39. Thank you.

I appreciate our conversation. I've taken a couple new thoughts from this, and I hope it will help me/us in future conversations with those that choose feed themsleves/their family via a rifle/bow and a wild animal.

And no, I don't mean in such a way to use against anyone.

Unless they're idiots, then it's game on, right?

[Dave Reynolds]

40. Idiots are always fair game,

and should be shredded without mercy.

[TimeChaser]

12. Are you going to make any deer jerky?

Mm... tastes better than beef...

[Dave Reynolds]

16. I might have some jerky,

and summer sausage for sure. The landowner who lets me hunt 370 acres for free hinted that he really likes the sausage, I think the least I can do is get him a few pounds of it.

[Redstone]

14. How many points?

Redstone

[Dave Reynolds]

17. He was young,

just a forkhorn.

But his body size is large, I could not lift him by myself.

These southern Michigan deer eat lots of corn and soybeans, they are large and healthy.

[havocmom]

21. Re lifting him out

Local news story about the bison hunt in Yellowstone closed with advice that if you had a tag, better bring lots of friends with you. Nobody will haul one of those things out by them self.

Havocdad almost fell outta his chair laughing at the thought of some fool trying

[Dave Reynolds]

26. I ended up taking a tractor.

I still had to come to work with an intact spine.

Bison? I might as well try to lift a house!

[Redstone]

23. That's good. It makes me sad to see the scrawney little whitetails

we have around here; there's clearly not enough food for them all.

Enjoy your venison!

Redstone

[Dave Reynolds]

28. Northern Michigan is like that,

not as much food, and a lot of people trying to hunt them.

The northern herd is fairly sparse due to lack of food and overhunting, and tightly restricted this year.

[havocmom]

18. as the sage once told Obleo

You don't have to have a point, to have a point.

[Redstone]

20. By the way, even if it had no points, it's OK with me.

If it was a doe, the remaining deer would thank you for helping thin the herd if they could...more food for the rest of them this winter.

We have WAY too many deer in the Northeast and it's better you eat one of them than it starve to death.

Enjoy the venison! Tasty meat that is, when cooked right.

Redstone

[sendero]

24. Venison..

.... makes great chili! But I'm not sure anyone in the midwest would know how :)

To the OP, so you shot Bambi. Bet she'll make some great sausage :)

[Dave Reynolds]

27. My chili is weak caucasian slop.

People laugh at it.

And, it was Bambi's older brother. :-)

[BikeWriter]

51. The deer season after I got out of the military...

I spent eighteen days at our lease. I kept a pot of chili going the entire time, adding meat and spices every few days.

[Dave Reynolds]

58. Sounds like a good time,

even if I do not get a deer (which is usually), I just like to be in the woods. No phone, no TV, just outside.

[BikeWriter]

68. I'd spend most of the day on my stand...

And the middle of the day ranging the rest of the ranch with my dog.

[sendero]

29. Did you use a rifle...

...or a crossbow? Go into detail about your rig :)

[Dave Reynolds]

32. In my part of the state,

rifles are not legal to use due to population density, and crossbows are limited to the physically handicapped.

I used a pawn-shop shotgun with 00 buckshot, which is nine pellets inside a shotgun shell.

No scope, no bait, no deer pee in a bottle. I just happened to be sitting somewhere that a deer walked by, which is why in all of my years of hunting I have gone home empty-handed far more often than with meat.

I normally just like to bow hunt, but time problems and moving prevented me from practicing, and I will not even go into the woods with a bow and arrow if I am not confident I can hit something cleanly.

[sendero]

37. I have 40 acres..

... up near OK in TX. The only deer hunting allowed my county is archery or crossbow.

I used to see a lot of deer but haven't seen many in a few months. Someday, I will perform a deer->chili conversion on one of them :)

[BreweryYardRat]

33. Not thrilled...

...but you're doing it for food and to thin the herd, so I'm not going to rant at you. People who just hunt for sport, though...

[Dave Reynolds]

35. I really am not a fan of trophy hunting.

I am a fan of trying, in a small way, to dispel the perception of hunting as merely Ted Nugent-wannabes only way of entertainment.

Some of us love and respect the animals we take, and try to keep the whole herd healthy.

[flvegan]

36. Sport? It's not a sport.

Obviously, you know that. I'm not poking at you.

Good point.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

42. WAS IT BAMBI'S MOTHER?

because somebody KILLED her, did YOU KNOW THAT?

DID YOU?

[Dave Reynolds]

43. Honest, I never killed Bambi's mother.

Her big brother and sister, maybe. But for sure not her momma.O8)

[TimeChaser]

44. Bambi's a boy :)

[Dave Reynolds]

46. Oops.

I never know until I turn them upside down.:dunce:

[hfojvt]

47. not in Wisconsin

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/bembenek/1.html

[leftstreet]

45. The Deer Hunter

[Beausoir]

48. Wow! How impressive!

I'm betting your jock strap will be much more snug fitting after this!!

You are a real MAN!!

[Dave Reynolds]

49. Ah hah!

I knew I could bring out the sarcastic asswipes sooner or later!

Welcome, I've been waiting!

Now please, share more wisdom with the group!

[ScreamingMeemie]

60. I don't know about that...but I'm sure his belly is full.

And my jock strap never appears to fit tighter when I shoot. :shrug: Wonder what I'm doing wrong. Boys? Anyone?

[Dave Reynolds]

62. I don't know,

my apparently miniscule penis does not grow enough to tighten my jock strap, either from hunting OR driving an SUV.

I'm so....inadequate..

:hi:

:rofl:

[NuttyFluffers]

50. i hope it was Bambi's mother.

that was my favorite part of the film.

yes, yes, yes... insert gasps of shock and exhortations of evil here. blah, blah, blah.

and i laughed when they shot Ol' Yeller, too. when i was 5. :P

[Dave Reynolds]

55. Yay!

Thank you, you just may take a little bit of the heat off me!

:thumbsup:

[NuttyFluffers]

66. sappy disney characters must die! mwa ha ha ha!

:evilgrin:

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[Dave Reynolds]

57. I wish I could see this,

whoever wrote it please repeat it to me in a PM.

I'm sure I would LOVE to respond.

:evilgrin: :nuke:

[Bridget Burke]

54. I'm not a hunter but have eaten game prepared by hunters.

Those little mourning doves are especially tasty.

Texas has a surplus deer population, too. I wish the the wolves, bears & cougars would make a comeback & even the balance. Until then, regulated hunting is the best option. (The coyotes are still going strong & alligators are making a comeback.)

[Dave Reynolds]

56. We have a lot of coyotes here,

but for some reason they make no significant dent in deer population.

They tend to clean out rabbits and stray cats, though.

I have heard packs of coyotes yipping and yowling at night from two different directions, and the closest one was just in the field across the road from my house.

I am quite fond of dove meat as well, but it is not a popular position here in Michigan.

[Bridget Burke]

70. The coyotes go after smaller prey.

Which is why they've adjusted well to the modern world. My sister in LA lost at least one cat to them.

My own cats have had fine lives as indoor kitties. But there's a "neighborhood cat" who gets fed--partly to protect the birds. I don't know that he's caught any of the mourning doves that are so common here. He did kill a rat--for whom I refuse to mourn.

Alligators can be a threat to small pets in some of Houston's farther-out suburbs. There's plenty of nature, even in the big city.

[Rabrrrrrr]

59. Congratulations!

I really wanted to do deer hunting this year, but alas, ain't gonna happen.

i'm glad you got one!!

[Dave Reynolds]

63. Sorry you could not go this year,

maybe next year. I have missed 3 out of the last 5, sometimes due to funds, sometimes to lack of time.

:hi:

[Chicago Democrat]

61. Well done... be careful of ticks! make some sausage with the tougher

bits.


I am roasting a Muscovy duck tonight! So exciting and rare yum.


I like deer tenderloins that are still warm from the body heat of the recently killed animal. Then put them on a stick and roast them over an oak fire. NOW THAT's HEAVEN ON EARTH.

Thank goddess we are blessed with ample deer to nourish our spirit and body!

Congratulation.

[Dave Reynolds]

64. I was very tempted

to take the backstraps right away, but I held off.

No ticks on this guy that I found, and his lungs and liver were normal, so no TB or other disease.

Duck sounds great. Next year I want to have some goose in the freezer as well.

[HughBeaumont]

69. I LOVE Deer Meat!

My late uncle served it all the time around Christmas.

Here in Avon Lake, they're all OVER the place. It's not uncommon to see them walking around in the yards of residential areas like mine. A baby one came up to my lawn last summer during one of our get togethers and the kids pet it. It was nice. Poor dislocated animal.