Why aren't parents doing their job these days?

[Wcross]

Just got back from the store. I had kids coming down an isle three abreast and its as if the kid about to get run over felt I should disappear rather than make a space for me to get by. One little dope (about 10 y/o) walking next to mommy almost got run over because he didn't understand that he should step behind his momma when another shopper is coming down the isle the other way. Its almost as if they think they are equals to an adult. No respect, no thought to the consequences. BTW- I am kind of hard to overlook at 6'6" tall and mean looking.
When I was growing up I was taught to NOT get in the way of strangers. As a matter of fact my mother would leave us kids at HOME when she went to the grocery store.

WARNING TO ALL PARENTS. I don't give a rats behind about your child. If you refuse to teach them manners I refuse to worry about not running them over.

[WCGreen]

1. Here here.. Ill behaved children become ill behaved adults...

[RevCheesehead]

2. ...

:popcorn: This should be good.

[Telly Savalas]

3. 98% of the time I encounter the "all your aisle are belong to us" trick

it's adults that are doing it, so it seems the parents are doing their job of passing on their knowledge and wisdom to their kids.

[Pool Hall Ace]

4. I hear ya. I'd like to know the answer to this myself.

It seems like parents who teach manners are a minority today. The ones who don't teach manners just offer excuses and get defensive. I hope you get a decent answer.

[tjdee]

5. A kid didn't move out of your way and he's a dope?

And you guess that means he thinks he's equal to adults?

I'm all for rants against stupid/disrespectful kids and the parents that allow them to be stupid but...wow.

Just where should kids be allowed? Not at restaurants, not at grocery stores... is there a list I should compile?

I'd love to leave my kid at home when I go grocery shopping, but seeing as she's six and I'm a single parent, I don't think that's a good idea. :eyes: Though, I have started ordering home delivery of my groceries.

And I'm fairly certain you'll give a rat's ass about my kid if she grows up to be a doctor who saves your life.

[Wcross]

12. No, he is a little dope.

I was taught to respect my elders when I was a kid. You are defending this kind of parenting? The "mother" didn't even bother asking the kid to step aside. He sure acted like he deserved the same respect an adult would. I say excuse me to an adult- the kid gets run over from now on.
Sorry- whatever your situation is you ought to teach your kid respect for adults. Thats the bare minimum for raising a child.

[tjdee]

79. I don't know that you can judge parenting based on a "walk by" in a store.

The mother should have said "say excuse me" or whatever, but I mean, geez. You never had a bad day? Maybe she was at work all day. Maybe the kid was just distracted. Maybe on a different day he would have said excuse me. It's not like he knocked you into the aisle, spit on you, and then laughed about it.

:shrug:

[Pool Hall Ace]

17. Everyone seems to think that their child will grow up to be

a doctor to save our lives, or someone to wipe our butts when we're in a nursing home . . . which is fine.

Whatever your child does in the future, it does not excuse poor manners now.

[tjdee]

73. Or my kid could be a pencil pusher or a carjacker.

Doctor/nursing home person makes the point, but children are fairly important to the continuance and future of our civilization. I don't understand people who claim to be disgusted by children, or don't care about them or whatever.

Good manners are always necessary, but I don't know that walking in a grocery store and failing to step aside constitutes poor manners. Adults aren't demi-gods, first of all, and that kid could have been thinking about breakfast, his girlfriend, his sneakers, anything. He's a kid, for pete's sake. I don't think we have enough information to say whether he was being flat out rude and disrespectful.

Intent, to me, makes a difference.

[northzax]

90. once she's a doctor

she isn't a kid anymore, is she? unless, of course, she looks a lot like neil patrick harris.

[LeftyMom]

6. A child is not a second class citizen obligated to leap out of your way

If he doesn't move aside on his own, try saying excuse me, or waiting a minute as you would for an adult.

[Wcross]

18. So.....

Mom is on one side of the isle walking with her cart coming my way. Keep in mind it is two cart widths wide. The lil dope is walking next to the cart. He is looking right at me. I am walking in the opposite direction. Why should I be forced to say anything to this dope?

Back to the question. Mom was right there and wasn't interested in doing her job. Why?

[LeftyMom]

22. You are an adult

If nobody else has modeled good manners for this kid, you'd be doing society a favor to do so.

Regarding Mom, she's probably just distracted.

[Wcross]

30. I am growing weary of this every time I go to the store.

It is becoming more and more common as time goes by. If I try to correct him I will be the A-hole from the grocery store.
I guess the problem is Mom and her distractions?

[LeftyMom]

31. Just say excuse me

This isn't a problem worthy of this much drama. :eyes:

[tjdee]

75. But why should he, an Almighty Adult, have to say excuse me to a...

a... child?

[havocmom]

91. I've had times when I did that, with a smile and nice tone of voice

and had my head nearly taken off by mothers instructing ME to be patient and let their kids do as they please.

One of those kids damned near got killed the other day when he darted (on his wee bike) in front of a semi pulling two trailers full of hay. Mom's refusal to teach kids some respect and common sense almost cost his life and ruined the truck driver's in the process.

Oh, and the kid is still pulling the same stunt, only now he is on a tiny little motorcycle. He is FIVE years old and doesn't even speak clearly, but he has an engine and an attitude that the world has to get outta HIS way!

Not healthy for the kids or for society as a whole to let the kids think they are on the top of the food chain.

[LeftyMom]

97. and then one has every right to complain

but kids aren't mind readers, and the OP seems to think they should be.

[TimeChaser]

7. Can I add to that the screaming children in restaurants?

And I don't just mean fussy babies, that's all fine and good, especially if they're too young to be left with a sitter, I understand. But, goddammit, please teach them that it's not appropriate to run screaming around the restaurant!

[El Fuego]

8. Parents these days bring up their kids as "royalty"

Little princes and princesses who don't understand that the real world doesn't recognize their little crowns.

[Redstone]

9. Oh, fuck, here we go again.

My kids are trained to have manners.

But they're kids, for Christ's sake, and sometimes they forget. All kids do.

What, you were Little Mister Perfection when you were young, I suppose? Maybe that's why your mother left you home when she went to the store?

Get a fucking grip. There are a lot worse things to get worked up about than a kid who doesn't notice you in the store. Jesus.

Redstone

[WindRavenX]

14. You always say it best Mr.Redstone

Christ on a fuckin' cracker, some people need to get a serious grip on their priorities.
Kids are NOT mini adults.

[TimeChaser]

23. I don't know about you

But when I was growing up, I'd move out of the way for an adult coming through. And if I didn't, Mom would tell me to move. Or, if I was lost in though/daydreaming and didn't move, I'd usually get tugged out of the way.

[Pool Hall Ace]

24. Kudos to you for teaching your kids manners.

But why jump on the OP? He never said he was perfect.

Do you not notice poorly behaved children? I see them all the time, unfortunately. Screaming, tantrums, melt-downs, running around; it doesn't matter if it's at the grocery store, the hockey rink, or the library. And the parents are standing right there, and they do nothing.

Maybe you're good at tuning the kids out, like these parents are. I wish I had that ability.

[friesianrider]

61. Very well put.

[greatauntoftriplets]

26. Like the adults who block the entire damn aisle with their carts???

:applause: for your response.

[Redstone]

33. Yes, that happens to me, too. There are lots of people out there

who are oblivious and / or without manners.

So what? It's always been that way, and it isn't going to change. bitching about it isn't going to change it, either.

I think what set me off was the "kids these days" phrase.

You do know, don't your, that people have been complaining about "kids these days" since about forever, don't you?

Every generation, as it gets old and cranky, pisses and moans about "kids these days."

And you know that's the truth.

Redstone

[greatauntoftriplets]

37. I may be old, but I am not cranky about kids....

at least until they are teenagers. Happily, the triplets are extremely well-behaved at age 5, we can take them anywhere...even nice restaurants and they are little gentlemen and lady.

:)

What you say is exactly right. What is the younger generation coming to?

[Maestro]

32. Good goin' Redstone.

See my post below as well. :) Just finished listening to some Willie BTW.

[flvegan]

10. I had a very little child today that

was running from his mom down the aisle (Target). I wound up behind this little boy (had to be, maybe 5 or 6). So now, here I am, 212 pounds of ugly dude between parent and child, and he's gaining ground for the door...as am I. The mom? Waaaayyyyyyy back looking at candles or something. I actually stuck with that kid for this very reason:

What if I was a predator? If I wanted to, I probably could have done something very, very ugly. Who'd stop me? Deputy Dawg, Jr. at the exit? No gun, half my size. I hate the very thought that this youngster was so far away from his mom, and she didn't seem to notice.

I thought, nobody's watching this kid. I'd better. Too many fucking freaks out there.

He wound up running up to the instore McD counter. A nice girl working there took him back to his mom.

I don't know how folks can just stop paying attention to their young 'uns.

Of course, I've been watching a lot of WWE lately. I think I'd have opted for the choke slam should someone have made a move for that kid.

[Redstone]

11. You don't have any kids, do you?

I'm not criticizing you; your intentions are good, but unless you've had kids you can't understand how quickly they can cut loose. You don't have to be a sloppy or inattentive parent...just lose concentration for half a second.

As a parent, I thank you for noticing that kind and keeping an eye on him. I'll bet his mother does too.

Redstone

[flvegan]

19. Well

I don't. My former wife did, so I do have experience with monitoring little ones in public. Her son was 1 when I entered the picture for 4 years.

I do, most certainly, agree with you about how quickly they can cut loose. Parents come to expect it, and good parents react properly. Certain specifics that I left out to keep a long story short:

-The mom saw the kid running off, as she said "*** come back here!"
Yet, she didn't follow.

-I looked back a couple times to see if she was coming after him. She just kept on shopping.

-Her son made it from one end of Target to the other, almost literally, yet she didn't move. She KNEW he was off and about.

-Any store security would have been right to notice me specifically following this child. I was very focused. You've seen my picture. Would you want someone that looks like me following your child through a store?

I know what you're saying. I'm not suggesting in the LEAST that kids don't do things like this. My point was in regards to the OP, that some parents weren't doing their job. This one, that I refer to, wasn't. That's all I'm saying.

In regards to that, had she lost concentration for a second, or just had something catch her eye, I wouldn't have thought twice. She knew, and she disregarded. A huge difference, right?

I'm not saying that folks that lose a few seconds tracking their kiddos are bad parents. Not in the least. However, the mom in my story is a sloppy, inattentive parent.

[Redstone]

38. Yup, you're right. If she knew the kid was hauling ass, she should

have gone and rounded him up.

I'm not being an apologist for bad parenting here; just protesting the "kids these days" nonsense.

There are bad parents and kids now; there were bad parents and kids then. Some things never change.

Redstone

[flvegan]

41. Redstone, my friend,

I know exactly what you're saying. That's why I wanted to take the time to explain my post. I didn't want you thinking otherwise of me.

I agree with you, completely.

[Redstone]

49. We always end up on the same side no matter where we start,

don't we?

I'll buy you a beer some day. (And not offer a cheeseburger to go along with it. Well, okay, if you come to the house we'll grill one of those tofu numbers with soy cheese analog, which I've tried and it ain't bad.)

Redstone

[flvegan]

55. Yes. Yes we do.

And I won't say word number one about whatever you're eating. It's all good. Besides, I remember cheeseburgers...they do taste good.

You buy me a beer, and I'm buying you two.

[tjdee]

78. I do have a kid, and I do have to disagree here...

My cousin's son was out with his grandmother and he managed to haul ass to the other side of the mall and they had to do a code Adam, I think.

I guess I'm lucky--my kid didn't ever haul ass when she was that small because I held her hand or was looking at her. And maybe I was just lucky and she wasn't a runner. It is possible my daughter is indeed an angel. :silly:

But I really don't understand how things like that can happen.

[havocmom]

93. Redstone, my daughter doesn't have kids either, but she can observe

and has managed 40, (es you read that right FORTY) four-year-olds for 8 hours a day, five days a week for months. Even people without kids can have a lot of experience with them ;)

PS, she was also late getting off work on Christmas Eve due to several parents who forgot they even HAD children to pick up. Having kids is no guarentee someone will be a responsible parent. Not having kids is no proof that someone does not understand the situations.

Peace man, cuz I do love ya! And I would love to get to meet the little Redstone... maybe on a summer trip? :hi:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

13. When I happen upon kids (and adults) who are in my way,

I say, "Excuse me, please..." as pleasantly as possible. Who knows, maybe that brief polite encounter will make some difference in their lives.

[mtowngman]

89. Especially if they're not getting this

type of example set for them by their parents.

[mandyky]

15. I don't mind when kids do this, what bugs me

is when adults 2 or more congregate with 2 or more carts, one going each way. Most product aisles only have room for 2 cart widths.

When kids see their parents do such inconsiderate things, how would anyone expect them to know better?

I hate shopping (an unusual thing for a woman, so I am told), so when I get in the store, I wanna get my "bidness" done and get the heck out of there. Aany time I hit "traffic jams" I start to get panic attacks. LOL I won't run anyone over, but if there are mind readers in the store they get an earful. :)

[Redstone]

43. So you're a woman who does "guy shopping."

Welcome to the club. Get in there, get your stuff, get out, and go home. Mrs R and I leave the Christmas shopping until the week or so before Christmas so we're forced to do it that way. works out well, expecially because we always do it on, say a Tuesday morning when the crowds are light.

Redstone

[mandyky]

92. That and I only shop once a month for groceries

With no car and taking a cab, otherwise my grocery budget gets spent on cabs. I don't mind time to shop and stand in line, but I hate clogged aisles! LOL

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[Amaya]

20. Woohoo... another kid bashing thread!

:eyes:

[WindRavenX]

21. I know, unbelievable

I really think more people should spend time actually being with kids before posting these things.

[Wcross]

25. I have no desire to associate with children.

I really hate it when people force me to interact with them. Teach them manners and common sense and its win/win!

[WindRavenX]

27. They're in public

How are kids supposed to learn how to function in public if you think they're never supposed to be there?
Kids learn- no matter how many times you tell them "Don't do this in public", they'll still do it because they're learning. That's how kids learn.
I'm sorry that kids inconvenience you, but it's a public place AND most kids do learn, except for a few run ins that you unfortunantly have to suffer thru,

[Maestro]

28. You'd love to interact with these kids.

Well behaved and smart and future dems! d









And they will get out of your way in the store. In fact, I see far too many adults that lack the common courtesy to even acknowledge that a poor kid is a kid and they expect them to make the first move to say excuse me or whatever. Hey, here is a clue to everyone who hates kids, they learn by example. Your (No directed at you, Wcros) attitude of contempt for kids is felt by them and engenders the same in them. This is something that I confront everyday as I deal with idiot parents at my school. They never accept responsibility for their kids' actions; therefore, their kids never accept responsibility for their dumb actions at schools.

[friesianrider]

63. What a good looking family!

Just beautiful! :)

They look like little stinkers...but in a good way of course :) In all seriousness though, they just look like they are very well behaved and well rounded kids.

You must be so proud! :)

[Maestro]

65. Extremely!

But ironically my boy just got in trouble. Hehehe. :) He's in time out.

[Redstone]

45. Oh, so people should never take their kids to any public place,

just in case you should be forced into the "indiginity" of interacting with them?

OK, Your Highness, just advise us in advance about where you'll be on any given day, and we'll be sure to keep the little boogers home so they don't discommode you.

Redstone

[Pool Hall Ace]

29. It doesn't have to be a kid-bashing thread.

The OP has a legitimate gripe, and would like an answer.

Instead, he's probably going to get most of the old stand-bys: "Weren't you a child once? You obviously don't have kids! My child might be a famous doctor some day! How dare you criticize children!"

So who is supposed to teach manners these days, if not the parents?

[WindRavenX]

34. The problem is you can't just TELL children to behave

They learn to behave in PUBLIC PLACES by being there and then being disciplined; this is where the OP has a legit beef in that the adult probably didn't take the chance to point out to her children that their behavior there was not correct--
HOWEVER

It seems to me that people have this notion that children will automatically be well-mannered and behaved if you just tell them before hand; and as I mentioned before, this is not how children learn. They must be in situations where there is an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

My criticisms are not because the OP is criticizing children, but how that he fails to understand that children do not simply learn by being told.

[Pool Hall Ace]

57. The OP doesn't mention any correction from the parent.

I don't expect children to automatically be well-mannered, or to only be told once how to behave. But I am very sympathetic to the OP.

Heck, I can't escape poorly-behaved kids in my own home. I live near an elementary school bus stop, and just about every morning, the kids are out there playing in the street, running around in other people's yards, and screaming at full-tilt. The mothers are right there, but they have a seemingly magical ability to tune the kids out.

I haven't been able to cultivate that ability, so I'm thinking about investing in a white noise machine.

I told the couple across the street, "You know, you are the only parents on this block who appear to have taught their kids manners." And the kids are not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination.

[WindRavenX]

96. Honestly, what do people expect from children?

I really want to know how people expect children to behave, because quite frankly, a lot of what I've seen is unrealistic to expect from children :shrug:

And FWI, I do not have children; I am a college student and I am a nanny for a VERY unruly 5 year old boy.

[miss_american_pie]

39. How hard is it to say excuse me

and ask to pass? If the awful horrible neglectful mother wasn't doing her job, then the OP would have taught manners by example. Or is it only children who should have manners?

And exactly how is calling a child a "dope" not bashing?

[Left Is Write]

58. No, it doesn't "have" to be a kid-bashing thread...

but the OP's anti-child sentiment comes through in his posts loudly and clearly.

I do teach my children manners. I do expect them to behave appropriately, and they get corrected if they do not. However, as WindRaven and Redstone said: they are still kids. Sometimes they forget. Sometimes adults forget basic manners also. Sometimes people forget that we are ALL fellow human beings, including the children.

[Redstone]

44. I haven't met your kids, but I'm sure they are nice ones.

and if they forget occasionally, well, they are kids, yes?

How's every little thing going for you, kiddo? You're one of my favorites, as you know, but we don't cross paths very much.

Redstone

[Amaya]

82. oh yes my kids are the "nice ones" ;)

They aren't perfect but then who is?

I've been very busy with the kids, work and lots of relationship stuff :D
Thank you for asking.
By the way, you're one of my favorites also:) We need a get together soon. it's been too long. :(

[Redstone]

85. Too long, indeed. We'll try to have a CT DU get-together

(kids included) at casa Redstone this winter. We have lots of room and many toys to keep the "little bastids" occupied while we share adult beverages.

"Relationship stuff?" Sounds promising. So good to hear there's a relationship for you to work on.

Hang in there.

Redstone

[flowomo]

35. WARNING TO ALL PEDESTRIANS:

"I don't give a rats behind about you. If you refuse to teach them manners I refuse to worry about not running them over."

Your insurance company would love to have that in writing from you.

[LibDemAlways]

36. You are brave for posting this.

I once started a thread about a ruined meal in a restaurant courtesy of an out-of-control 3 year-old and his obnoxious, oblivious mother and boy, did I ever create a flamefest. Some here think that neither kids nor their parents should ever be held accountable for creating a public nuisance. I think otherwise....and I'm not a kid hater. I've got a 12-year-old daughter and have tried to raise her to be considerate of others. However, there are plenty of parents who are inconsiderate asses who are raising their kids to follow suit.

[Wcross]

40. Brave? Hardly, around here they call it stupid!

I didn't realize the ire I would raise by asking why parents don't control their kids.

[LibDemAlways]

42. One of the touchiest subjects on DU......

but I'm definitely in your corner on this one. Parents have an obligation to keep their kids under control in public.

[friesianrider]

68. It's not stupid at all...

You're far from the only one who feels this way - most people on DU are just afraid of saying anything out of fear of being attacked.

[tigereye]

81. well, as parents,

we teach
we suggest
we model
we discipline
we set limits
we give them the tools
CONTROL isn't really the goal; you want to teach them to do the right thing independently.

CONTROL is what happens in North Korea.

[Maestro]

46. Then let's have a stupid, braindead parents thread

not a "out of control, I dislike kids" thread.

[LibDemAlways]

52. Saying that a kid was "out of control"

is stating a fact. I never said I dislike kids...in fact, quite the opposite. I like kids. I have a kid. The original poster is simply making the point that some parents ignore or tacitly condone their children's rude behavior instead of teaching them common courtesy.

[Maestro]

64. And then others jump all over the kids when in fact

the parents are the only ones to blame.

[WCGreen]

48. My thread about having a pacl of kids at a Fridays after

nine o'clock on a saturday was just plain ridiculous...

And the feakin' manager said Friday's is a family restaurant...

Yea, with all them purdy pictures of drinks for the kids to look at.....

[LibDemAlways]

56. I'm sorry I missed that one.

Mine detailed a lunch ruined by a little boy who screamed nonstop for twenty minutes and finally threw a plate before his mother even glanced in his direction. I was blown away by the number of posters who felt it was my problem and I had no right to expect to enjoy my restaurant outing with my elderly parents. More than one told me I should stay home!

[Pool Hall Ace]

66. Oh my gosh, I remember that thread.

That was unbelievable.

[WCGreen]

76. I had the MIL who is 84 with us....

I asked the manager to do something...

He wouldn;t...

Told him I wasn;t comin' back...

[eyesroll]

47. So, you will physically assault a child with a shopping cart due to their

parents' inaction?

Your perfectly legitimate point about parents needing to school their children in manners is completely negated by your overly hostile tone and threats of physical violence.

BTW: In a lot of places, it's illegal to leave a 10-year-old home alone while Mom goes shopping.

[Redstone]

50. Now, that was a great reply. Much better than mine. Thank you.

I think you spoke for all reasonable people.

Redstone

[Wcross]

83. Its the freakin lounge eyesroll.

My post was an obvious rant and now you have me all lined up for an assault with buggy rap? I don't run kids over but it is getting more and more difficult to put up with the manners shown by children these days. Sorry if you don't agree.

[eyesroll]

94. Sorry...it's hard to read tone in a post.

You said the behavior pissed you off; I took that at face value.
You said parents needed to teach kids manners; I took that at face value.\
You said you were planning to run down kids with your shopping cart if they didn't get out of their way; I took that at face value.

[Telly Savalas]

51. You should have left your grocery cart where it was and left the store.

Not only would the kid learn manners, but the grocery store would probably have encouraged its employees to start a union!

[eyesroll]

54. ..

:rofl:

[Redstone]

62. Oh, damn, now THAT's funny!

Seriously. Perfection in a post right there, TS.

Redstone

[tjdee]

74. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

That's the funniest thing I've read today!

That'll teach them, that will teach them all!

[uppityperson]

88. very good.

:rofl:

[Shine]

53. Excuse me, but I'm doing my job and I'm doing it well, thanks very much

:eyes:

[friesianrider]

59. I agree 150%...

:thumbsup:

[seaglass]

60. Have you ever been driving and then get cut-off by a 10 yo?

There are rude people in the world, they come in all ages - SURPRISE!

[Ellen Forradalom]

69. There are also imperfect people of all ages in the world

I occasionally cut off someone in traffic. It's called a mistake. I wish there were a gesture for "I'm sorry" as readily recognizable as the finger.

[LaraMN]

67. Wow. I'm fucking glad I'm not a single Mom who HAS to take her kids with.

Sheesh. The last time one of my kids threw a major fit in a store (about a year ago,) I picked her up, slung her over my shoulder, put my littlest guy in my "free" arm, and booked it out of the store. I had the luxury, however, of waiting until my husband was home and going back to the store without them. Not everyone is so lucky, and yes, SOME people habitually abuse the tolerance of strangers in public. I also remember how slowly the "traffic" moved in one store when I happened to unwittingly stop in to shop there on Senior Discount Day. I certainly didn't feel the need to ostracize and characterize the entire population of elderly people's adult children who "could" be doing the shopping for them and keeping them out of the store to spare me the aggravation of their presence.

[just a girl]

86. I am a single mom....

.... and I'm terrified of having my child turn out this way. He's not yet 5 months and I feel horribly guilty if he whines while I'm at the store. When he's having a bad day I skip my shopping rather than subjecting the others at the store to his temper. I don't know what I'll do once he's older.

[datasuspect]

70. one glare from mom or dad

ESPECIALLY in public was all it took.

we immediately shut the fuck up and acted like patient little humans.

and there was no candy bar or other purchase to console/reward us for behaving.

but this was in the early to mid 70s when the world was actually geared for adults (remember rated R movies anyone?)

"child safe" meant sticking like glue to the big people who fed you.

[obxhead]

71. Those are the same parents who use two lanes on the highway

while chatting on their cell phones.

[seaglass]

72. Of course, because people without kids would never do that. n/t

[obxhead]

80. ok I'll take that...

it was deserved

[seaglass]

87. Thanks for being fair. n/t

[Deja Q]

77. Parents have to work more jobs to make the income necessary:

Remember, latch-key kids started thanks to that filthhole reagan.

While some parents will ALWAYS be irresponsible, "societal" factors play a greater role. And that includes the greed of those who run society.

[Zomby Woof]

84. We saw two very well-behaved children at Vons yesterday

The older sister stood next to the cart, listening to her little sister sitting in the cart read from a book QUIETLY. It was damn cute.

It can be done, as we saw yesterday. Since there are never any threads about good parents with good children in supermarkets these days, I figures what we saw adds a little balance to the thread.

[WindRavenX]

98. It absolutely can be done

But manners, like all things that we learn, takes time and effort to teach, reward, and correct along the path of learning how to be respectful and well-behaved in public places. I just think that many people are unfairly critical of this fact-- it's just not possible to quickly tell a child to behave. But I do my very best to teach the children I watch to be respectful and how to behave in public :hi:

[TimeChaser]

95. So, did you know I was once beaten up by a kid who's

parent blamed it on me because her little angel could do no wrong? His mom hated my mom because she actually kept an eye on me and my siblings when we were playing outside.

He eventually got kicked out of school, btw.

My point is, some of you are taking this rant way to far. Most of us are not bashing kids, just their parents who refuse to see any fault in their children and never correct any of their bad behaviors and just let them do as they please.

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[BigMcLargehuge]

100. Locked

This concludes our monthly rant about parents, children, and shopping.

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