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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:46 AM
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There is so much I could say about Will Pitt
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 12:47 AM by khephra
The man has been a TRUE Brother and Friend to me.

Tonight, he did the honor of giving me credit for helping in his work. In front of my home crowd.

Now there are way too many people who get successful and, as soon as they're getting big, they forget their friends.

Will is not one of those people.

If you are ever honored with being a friend of Will, know this--the man will never let you down. EVER.

He may rant and rave at you when he's down and out. But stick by his side. Will is one of the few people that I've ever met who lift you up just by standing at his side.

There are a lot of potential "Will Pitts" here on DU. And not all of them are writers.

By that I mean, there are a lot of people who can change the world...and ask you for your help in doing it. Don't hesitate. Check your ego at the door. It's sometimes better to be a "Silent Bob" supporting someone else than to be a frontman.

Remember that when the Silent Bobs of the world talk, the world stops to listen too. Silent Bob ends up coming into his own in the end. So will you too, when the time is right.

Those who are farther along than yourself can help you go farther than you ever thought.

Once again: check your ego at the door.

Everyone here is already a leader. You may not be ready to lead others, and if you aren't, then SUPPORT someone else. You'll be paid back more times than not. Soon your time will come.

Help others and soon you'll find them helping you.

And then soon you'll find people asking to help you.

I hope all this makes sense...it probably doesn't except to the people who were there with me tonight. But if one person understands this msg who wasn't with us tonight in Indy, then I've done my job for the night.

Silent Bob (aka Kef) signing off.

(ps...I will add that it was a bit creepy to have an entire audience turn to me and smile. It reminded me a bit of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. ;-) I expected them to start hissssssing at me ;-) )

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:51 AM
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1. "an entire audience turn to me and smile"
I was deeply, deeply tempted to lean into the microphone at that point and bellow, "YOU'RE THE MAN NOW, DOG!" I didn't. :)

Thank you, Kef. For everything.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:58 AM
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2. You've had me crying almost all the evening because of that
But it has been a GREAT cry. Cleansing my soul type of a cry.

You've inspired me again. I was feeling burned out, and you came to Indy at just the right time.

I'm ready to kick ass and chew bubblegum again...and guess what?

I'm all out of bubblegum.

Time for me to start on the Religious Right like I always have wanted to do.

Shit...why do you get the people in think tanks and I get the fundies who blow up abortion clinics as foes? How did that happen?

;-0
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:00 AM
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3. Just my luck
to get the people in think tanks who control the army, navy, air force, marines, FBI, secret service, the treasury and the banking industry. My luck rules. :)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:02 AM
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5. Oh yeah...oh yeah?
Well, I call dibs on Gary Bauer. He's in both fields, but I call him as mine!

Nananabobo!

:evilgrin:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. You can have John Ashcroft
because I forgot to mention the Justice Dept. :puke:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:04 AM
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8. Oh yeah...
EEEEEKKKK!

Can I take back everything I said and go run and hide in a corner?

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. Too late
He's all yours.



"My eyes are on God...and Kef."
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:18 AM
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20. How do you get over your fear?
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:19 AM by khephra
of them coming to get you?

I know you deal with a lot of heavy shit, but I have to admit that I've been afraid to take on Ashcroft, even though I know he's on my "turf". I think my fear lies more in what could happen to Momakef with a fuckhead like Ashcroft.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:31 AM
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21. I decided to be brave.
Remember?
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. That is the thing you talk about...
in the book and when you speak that I try to hang on to...they win when we live in fear.

NO FEAR!
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:34 AM
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24. I will give my entire life up for the cause
But my mother?

That's the only thing holding me back with Ashcroft.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:40 AM
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28. How have you and your mother worked out your work?
Does she understand that if things turn worse that we could be the ones in camps? I guess if I could get over the idea that my actions might hurt her then I'd go all the way. Advice please?
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:48 AM
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31. Have you talked to your momma...
about it kef? If she's anything like my momma then I expect she'll be in the next cellblock over when they put us in the camps. Either that or she'll be bribing the guards with home cooking and smuggling us in a file in a cake. :-)

Seriously though...have you talked to her about it. Talking to a mom always helps.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:50 AM
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33. I have...but I swear I don't think it has sunk in
I long for the day where I can live on my own and not worry about blowback on mom.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #33
55. Interesting you mention that just now, kheph
Today would be my mom (4thGenDem)'s 73rd birthday. She died nine years ago last Saturday. Believe me, you'd rather have mom around.
John
So, Mr Pitt -- you coming to FUNDAY this June 19 (212 days, 21 hours and 38 minutes from now)? You ain't never seen nothing like Saginaw, Michigan (heck, Kheph's from Indy -- and he was impressed or at least pretended to be).
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #21
35. Plus you look like Alec Baldwin
so they might go after him and leave you alone...he has bodyguards, he ought to be able to hold them off for a while :evilgrin:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:55 AM
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36. All jokes aside
I want to hit the Religious Right HARD.

But I also know that they're the exact types who are everywhere.

I can be brave. Hell, working for Will and TO is brave on its own.

How can you convince those that you love that they might become targets of people like the "God hates fags" people and the abortion bombers.

Will is dealing with PNAC. I want to deal with the American Taliban.

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #36
52. I want you to hit the religious right hard as well,
(the same slogan we used in college against the Moral Majority-The Moral Majority is Neither- would apply to the Religious Right as well, they're neither religious nor right), I want them to be totally discredited and thoroughly and permanently destroyed as an influential movement.

But PLEASE don't think of them as representative of Christianity in general, I'm a liberal Christian (yes, we do, indeed, exist) and I can guarantee you that we hate those people as much as you do. They have hijacked and are trying to ruin Christianity the way Shrub and the Smirkinos hijacked and are trying to ruin this country.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. BTW
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:59 AM by khephra
I look like Alec Baldwin?

I thought I looked more like Matt Pinfield or Uncles Fester. That's a first for me.

And I :loveya: you for it!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #37
39. That was a response to Will's post
As for Matt Pinfield, yeah, I can see that, and since he's a Limp Bizkit fan, maybe it would be a good thing if they mistook him for you and got him out of the way :)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:01 AM
Response to Reply #21
38. You mentioned those who were brave
What were their thoughts on their families?

You know and I know I'll choose to be brave...I'm just trying to figure out how to be brave and not worry about my family who are guiltless.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:00 AM
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4. And let it be said
That I'd never be this far along without the help of Hippiechick. My sister in arms!

This pepsi :toast: is to you!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:59 AM
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45. The "49th And Delaware Street" Pepsi ?
:evilgrin:

It's my pleasure, Bro - you are an inspiration to me on those days when I get anti-social and want to tell certain self-absorbed local activist wanna-be's where to stuff it.

I have been, and will continue to be so very, very proud to know you and MamaKef.

Oh yeah, and Will too :P ...



:loveya:

Hippie
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:03 AM
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7. You two are so sweet
:-)

Congrats on the public recognition kef. Isn't it great to have friends? What would we all do without this place? *hugs all around*
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:05 AM
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9. Hugs back!
:-)
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:06 AM
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10. Good advice Kheph.....
.......as always! :thumbsup: :evilgrin:

(Can I call ya Kheph? Ya' know, now that you're famous an' all! :) )
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:10 AM
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12. I'm more than famous...I'm Infamous!
The 3 Amigos rule!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:10 AM
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11. Hey I wasn't there but I think I get your drift Khephra
Perhaps someday I may get some courage under me
to believe in myself to lead but for now I'm
happy as a pig in mud offering help to others .

Perhaps my poetry and writing will flow more smoothly
for me someday .

perhaps

I'm glad Will gave you that recognition ,
You Deserve It :loveya:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:13 AM
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15. If it wasn't for you
I would have never been involved, even slightly, with the Dean campaign. In your own way, you've given me chances that I would never have had--just by showing your own hard work behind the scenes.

From one Silent Bob to another :toast:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:15 AM
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17. Here's to it
:toast:
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:12 AM
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14. Thanks to both of you
for all of the fine work and inspiring words. All us Silent Bob's DO listen, think and act. Kep up the good work.

Woof
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:13 AM
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16. Kef, you're an awesome phenomenon. Everyone here knows it, too.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:14 AM by Mary Pat
And it's high time you quit hiding your light under a bushel, dear. High five to Will for showing you off!

:hug:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:16 AM
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18. I'm not quite frontman material yet
But due to Will and all the DUers who support me, I'll be there soon.

You all know that I've been counting down until I drive...well, the new countdown is until May when I give my first public speech on the separation of Church and State.

Then I'll be garage band worthy...but not quite frontman yet.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:18 AM
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19. Ha, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Just think of how many of
us here at DU stare at you every day...;)

You are a good guy khephra
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:31 AM
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22. Extremely well, said, Keph. You show your character.
But for the record: I'm soooo much more of a 'doll-baby' than Will Pitt.



;-)
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:35 AM
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26. Well, since I'm the one...
who pegged him with that nickname, you'll just have to come on down to Texas for a visit so I can be the judge of that. :-)

I bet GOPisEvil would let you sleep on his couch too. :evilgrin:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:41 AM
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29. Oh, you never can tell when I might return to Texas.
It's bound to happen sooner or later.

Meanwhile you're welcomed to take my word for it. ;-)

Gee! That'd be nifty. He's only offered to let me 'drool' on his couch!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:06 AM
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42. You may do whatever you wish on my couch.
Mi casa es su casa. :-)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:35 AM
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25. Ahhhhh, but we were hissssssssssssing at you!
We planted a post-hypnotic suggestion in your head to make you think we were cheering. In reality, the pod has been set up in your house. Soon you will be one of us. :evilgrin:

In truth, you deserved it, and as I told you, I had a feeling that Will would be giving you your props tonight, you have earned it.

:toast: (Pepsi, I swear)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:45 AM
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30. Since you've met my mom
Can you give me any advice? I don't think she understands how deep this rabbit hole goes. They always strike your loved ones.

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #30
34. Well, we never awaken anyone past a certain age
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:52 AM by IAmJacksSmirkingReve
:evilgrin:

She should be happy - her son is becoming a Player, and moving up in the world. After having overcome plenty, it's about damn time.

Your mother seems like a tough, independant woman. I don't think she'll have any problem handling anything.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:39 AM
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27. Much wisdom in that post Keph, and many thanks for sharing it with us....
:-)'s Glad you had such a great experience. You deserve it. :toast:

koko
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:49 AM
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32. I wish all the DUers that I know had been there
Will was on the top of his game tonight. He did almost an hour and a half of Q&A without notes. Man, that's gutsy.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:44 AM
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40. Will Pitt has a profound and compasionate
viewpoint. My impression of Will with the very few posts I have seen, including the video stream of the debate he had a few weeks ago, is that he is among the ranks of the current philosopher and socioeconomist Leonardo Boff. Will, I am a fan of your editorials. Congratulations on your brilliance.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:38 AM
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41. Let us not forget the smile and sense of humor! :-)
Will - so young, so wise, a writer and a player!

:toast:

:-)
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:07 AM
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43. Both of you guys are great.
:yourock:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:32 AM
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44. I second that point!
Both of you Rock!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:20 AM
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46. So glad Keph and Will got to spend some time together
I know what you mean Kheph. And I'm glad you got the spotlight shown on you. Please don't doubt that you deserve it. :toast:

I sometimes use this line from DUNE as my sig:

Fear is the mind-killer. - Frank Herbert.

It helps to keep me from getting paralized by what ifs. And sometimes you find that what you thought beforehand is more frightening than what actually transpires.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:39 AM
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47. Congrats Kef!
Will tells me all the time how much he values you. Good to let the world know too! I have a very selfish motive for cheering you guys on:

I would like to live the rest of my years out in peace and in a country that I can be proud of. :-)
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:10 AM
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48. That's a good kid...
you raised Raven. :-) Says something about you that he is so willing to share the spotlight with and give credit (and a huge ego boost) to others around him.

With people like him (and kef :-)) poking us in the rears all the time maybe we'll give you your wish.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:21 PM
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59. Thanks Raven!
One of these days, we have to get you and MomaKef together. You two would rock the world!

:loveya:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:22 PM
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60. Thanks to everyone else in this thread that I haven't already thanked!
Truthout work calls!

:hi:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:15 AM
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49. Are you guys like in the same room typing this?
Hey - it's always inspired me that Kheph is a Dean guy and Pitt is a Kerry guy - yet - amazingly they're still friends!!!!

Much to learn from.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:20 PM
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58. We had three Dean DUers in the same room with Will last night
We tried to get him to drink the DeanDrink that turns us all into Deanies, but he didn't drink the right drink.

Now I'm a Double-Deanie!

:evilgrin:
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:25 AM
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50. Last night was right on time
I had been feeling very tired and conflicted because LORDY Bush works on the dark parts of my soul something awful. I was ready to put myself on the shelf. But getting to see Will and Khephra and Hippiechick last night gives me a little more energy to get through. The three of them are truly shining lights on this board but I think we should all take a bow because all of us Silent Bobs are DA BOMB.

Time to lay that bomb under McCokespoon's bed.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:02 PM
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51. I was thinking today how much I appreciate Will for speaking
out and saying what I (we) would want to say (if we had all of that information at the edge of our brains and had the "audacity" to get out there and do it).

I also appreciate everyone who helped (helps) him get where he needs to be, arranges the venues and the publicity and all of it.

And I appreciate you, Keph for keeping Will sane. We all need some help in that department and it has to feel good to be able to to help out someone who has dedicated his life to being a voice of conscience.

:yourock:


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:14 PM
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53. SirWilliam kicks ass!
A true Patriot and Warrior!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:15 PM
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54. When ya going to post some Will & Kheph pics?
I hope you took some!
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:18 PM
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57. No pictures this time
Sorry!

I plan on visiting Will before my speech in May, so I'll get some then.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:15 PM
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56. /me wishes he could have been in Indianapolis last night (n/t)
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