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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:09 AM
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Did you hear about the pizza delivery serial killer in LA?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9893291/

This guy supposedly murdered 10 women many of them pregnant. I'm not sure what the pizza delivery stuff has to do with his alleged crimes, but I've always been fascinated by the idea of a delivery man being a serial killer. Before you think I'm a psycho just bear with me.

I've always wanted to write about a serial killer, maybe a short story or a novel etc. I have always been interested in the concept of a guy who goes to houses as a Pizza man - or something similar - and murders women or whole families. Except, unless a detective is stone dumb he's going to notice a pizza box at every victim's crime scene, so I'd have to figure out another way to go about it. Maybe, say he uses his job to scout locations and find women - or families - that he wants to attack. Then after months of preparation he gets around to doing the deed. So that way it isn't so obvious, you know?

I think he'd be something similar to the Tooth Fairy, from the Thomas Harris novel, Red Dragon. Meticulous like that. The psychology of criminals is very fascinating, I used to want to be a criminologist or a profiler, except that I'm interested in some many things that I can't just limit myself, so I basically have become a writer, that way I can learn about anything I want and write about it.

But yeah, this case should be an interesting one to follow. I mean it's sad, the man killed pregnant women, what a sick puppy he is. Unfortunately those are the ones that are the most interesting to watch unfold.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:19 AM
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1. This is really sick, to harm those most needing of care
at a time of life's greatest gifts, what a sicko !!!

:kick:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:21 AM
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2. Very disturbing
and I have also noticed more cases in the news of pregnant women being murdered (or attempted) and their babies stolen. Not fun to think about.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:27 AM
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3. Grocery delivery man in "An Eye For an Eye"
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:45 AM
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6. yes!
good example, I remember watching that and thinking the same thing, that's one of the movies that helped get me interested in that concept.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:05 PM
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8. The killer in Red Dragon
Scouted out his victims from his job as a film processor, picking the victims out of the film, went to their houses dressed as gas meter reader to do on-site scouting, planned his crimes for months before systemically annihilating entire familes. In the book at least, never saw the film.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:34 AM
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4. Well, I'm not sure I'd call two "many," but it is an interesting
and sick case.

What's strange is this guy falls WAY outside the typical serial killer profile.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:44 AM
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5. yeah I read that wrong
I went back and looked again and saw it was two.

Yeah, he does fall out of that profile, doesn't he?
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 11:48 AM
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7. If I had it to do over again, I think I'd study forensic psych
rather than law. I think being a profiler would be fascinating work - intellectually challenging and very creative.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:00 PM
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9. I think it is mind-numbingly & soul-stealingly dangerous to do that
sort of work. You have no idea how horrid it is to get a "look see" into the minds of those freaks. You would have to be enourmously strong to do that work.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:22 PM
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10. Everyone seems strange to me
I'm an Aspie. Serial killers wouldn't seem any more odd than anyone else. Maniacs and what motivates them has always fascinated me. I am by nature a distant and analytical person. I don't think I have a soul to steal.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:41 PM
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11. I really don't think it would matter. You have emotions - a freak will
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 03:52 PM by applegrove
terrorize you according to who you are. That is why it is so freaky. And don't sell yourself short. I think Aspies are fundamentally very honest. That will just make you an easy target. You have a soul. Whoever told you that you did not? What you may not be good at is empathy. Empathy is what the experts use. And god help you if you get around those nuts and are blessed with much empathy - they will have a field day. You are right on that count - not being great a sussing out how others feel will protect you (if that is the case with you). It will also make it very hard to find out what is up. You don't have the right tools. Count yourself lucky that you don't know what it is like. Empathy can hurt more than anything.

We are all mysterious balls of life. Stick with the normal folk. Even if they seem 'strange to you'. There is nothing to learn from the dangerous. Except fear.
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