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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:31 PM
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Metallica Fans Vs. Freepers
check it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/951354/posts

"Posted on 07/23/2003 11:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

This is not bashing Free Republic.com, nor it is bashing members here. On the contrary, this place is one of the best sites for news, information and opinions on the web.

But, to be honest, sticking around here and chatting amongst ourselves is just preaching to the choir. We need to go on the offensive.

I've been going to the Metallica.com message boards and raising hell in what I call, "Hostile Territory". I haven't turned many to our side, but I have educated many. It's really a challenge. Others have probably been doing this for a while now.


I think we need to do more of this. We should find any site with a forum that has any threads that say things like, "Bush Sucks," or, "America imperialist killers," or the like. I'm starting this thread to try and make a place that we FReepers can use to gather and consolidate our sources and facts. Also we can use it as a place to bring up arguments that are just so silly and childish, that they should be read and laughed at by others.


I, for one, am sick of being on the defensive all the time. So, I crush all the lies with facts gathered on the web and all the conservative books I own. If more of us did the same, we'd be an even stronger force to be reckoned with..


Remember the rules of the other forums, debate with dignity and logic. Expect to be banned from these sites sometimes.


Our President said, "Bring it on." This is what I'm doing.


Good luck!



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Here's a list of my information sources and debating weapons:


Appetite For Evil: Terrorism Timeline


Free Republic Bump Lists


List of UN Resolutions


Good governmental search engine


Rush Limbaugh (TONS of great resources in the pay site!)


Google Advanced Search (Used correctly, one can find almost anything!)





Any More? Put 'em here!


1 posted on 07/23/2003 11:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg

I have joined RandallFlagg at the Metallica chat boards to do some educating. But not nearly as much as RandallFlagg has. He has been all over the boards there dishing some common sense, history, reality, and the truth.

Randall, The show in Atlanta was great! I hope you get to see them this summer.


2 posted on 07/23/2003 11:35 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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This is why we formed chapters to FReep our local communities. FReeping the internet is fine, but joining a local chapter takes it to them in your local city or town.


3 posted on 07/23/2003 11:45 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:35 PM
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1. RandallFlagg......is the Devil.....the Dark Man....The Walkin' Dude...
.......from Stephen King's....The Stand. A puke is using THAT as his handle....fitting for a puke puss bucket! :puke: :evilfrown:

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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:38 PM
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2. ...
Well I hope they have fun turning the intellectual tide at the bastion of political thought that is Metallica.com.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:45 PM
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3. oh noo
I hope you just didn't spoil anything for me..

I just bought "THE STAND" the other day--planned to start reading it next week.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:50 PM
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5. Nahhhh.......here's a picture of ol RandyFlagg himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...not a spoiler at all..LOL...The Stand my favorite KING!! Hope ya love it as much as I do...the DVD is awesome as well...but that book is THE BEST of Stephen King! IMHO! :)

.....handsome DEVIL isn't he!x(
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yeti Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:49 PM
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4. This is the perfect thread for me to come across on my first visit here ..
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 04:53 PM by yeti
...because it was that thread on FR yesterday that got me thinking about registering here. Then someone asked me on another thread if I was a DUer in disguise, and that got me thinking more...

Unlike walkin' dude, however, I am not here to disrupt on behalf of Republicans. I read the rules at the intro, and I am really not entirely clear on whether a moderate libertarian(small l) may or may not put in his two cents here.

If not, I won't. On FR, "progressive" means "stealth totalitarian" and I see the intro here that one must be supportive of "progressive" goals in order to be welcome here. I suspect that the term "progressive" might have a different meaning when used by the administration of this forum than when used on FR ; )

I didn't see a way to directly ask the admins, so if someone who knows how to get their attention would do that or tell me how, I would appreciate it.

I am asking permission before I cruise around and start posting, as I am honestly here primarily for the purpose of injecting my perspectives into the general discourse, not to make a big scene and get banned, or to trick anyone into voting R or anything like that.
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:53 PM
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6. ...
If you want advice, I've seen people get away with posting differing viewpoints if you do it in a VERY respectful manner (note the strong points of the others' argument etc.) and mix it in with liberal posts. If you get at all hostile, you're a goner. Honestly, I don't like the banning conservatives idea, I would opt for a debate forum that they can argue in.
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yeti Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:47 PM
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10. okay, but where?
I would opt for a debate forum that they can argue in.


Well, LibertyPost is so full of hate and venom for FR and the person of Jim Robinson that I don't feel comfortable there. I expect this place to be anti-FR(look at this thread), but wheelchair jokes and things like that make me wish I had read more before I registered at LP. Most of their problems with FR are actually personal problems with the people who run it, and so I don't share those hostilities.

Also, after I registered, some of the people with whom I was conversatin' left me feeling maybe a little manipulated, as if my presence was being painted with a meaning I didn't intend. I am not mad at the forum or anything, I just would rather not post there.


So besides LP, where should I go?

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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:03 PM
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11. Libertarians are allowed to post
and there are very many of them who post here. Posters are allowed to have conservative and liberal points of view, though a predominance of views towards the left is expected. To contact admin write to [email protected] or post a thread in the ask the administrators forum.
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yeti Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:25 PM
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13. Thanks.
Thank you.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:59 PM
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7. Well I'm going to the Concert next month
I actually am more a megadeth fan but always enjoyed Metallica

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:35 PM
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9. I'm not a metal fan
But I'd like to join that message board just to talk shit.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:05 PM
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12. Oh Yeah
Megadeth - for a while the absolute best metal band on the planet. I'd even say that about Metallica during the "Kill 'em All" days.



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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:38 PM
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14. Lyrics to Holy Wars - highly appropriate....
"Brother will kill brother
Spilling blood across the land
Killing for religion
Something I don't understand

Fools like me, who cross the sea
And come to foreign lands
Ask the sheep, for their beliefs
Do you kill on God's command?

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand

The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan
Don't look now to Israel
It might be your homelands

Holy wars

Upon my podium, as the
Know it all scholar
Down in my seat of judgement
Gavel's bang, uphold the law
Up on my soapbox, a leader
Out to change the world
Down in my pulpit as the holier
Than-thou-could-be-messenger of God


Wage the war on organized crime
Sneak attacks, repel down the rocks
Behind the lines
Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die

They killed my wife, and my baby
With hopes to enslave me
First mistake... last mistake!
Paid by the alliance, to slay all the giants
Next mistake... no more mistakes!

Fill the cracks in, with judicial granite
Because I don't say it, don't mean I ain't
Thinkin' it
Next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away
I know what I said, now I must scream of the overdose
And the lack of mercy killings"

And people say that metal bands are unintelligent?

P.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:19 AM
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17. Came out just in time for Gulf I too
the video included footage of much mid-east violence.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:25 PM
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8. RandallFlagg is a fitting title for a follower of Emperor AntiChrist*
Hey, Randall, I got a few excuses for you to recite to St. Peter at the pearly gates:

"I didn't know."

"I thought the Emperor was sweeter than Baby Jesus."

"But he SAID he was a man of honor and integrity."

"No, I didn't notice the goat bumps on his forehead."

And my personal favorite:

I was only following orders.
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:50 PM
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15. Metallica Redux
Sung to Metallica "One"

I Can't Remember Freedom
Can't Tell If this Is Life or Death
Deep down Inside I Feel to Scream
this Terrible Crime Making me

Now That the War Is Continuing
No one's Waking up, or can not See
That There Is Not Much Left of truth
Nothing Is Real but Lies Now
Hold My Breath as W longs for Death
Oh Please God, Help Us

Back in the World its Much Too Real
Scotty tells Lies The Press must Field
they won't Look and don't Reveal
Bush Family and the money they steal

Fed Through the Tube By Hannity
TV's a Right-wing Novelty
Its a Machine That Makes Me Be
Its cuts brain Life off from Me

Now that Dissent Is Gone We're All Done
Oh God,help Us
Hold My Breath as I Wish for Death
Oh Please God Help Us

Dubya Imprisoning Me
All That I See
Absolute Terra
Rummy's Bold Lies
Cheney's Cold Eyes
Trapped by this Hell
Gitmo My Holding Cell

Ashcroft Has Taken My Sight
Taken My Speech
Taken My Hearing
Taken My Rights
Taken My Freedom
Taken My Soul
Left Me with Life in Hell
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:18 AM
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16. But aren't Metallica just a bunch of trial-lawyer-happy court whores?
Does not compute.
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