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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:04 PM
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Syllabus for my Queer Literature Class:
Stone Butch Blues - Leslie Feinberg
Love! Valour! Compassion! - Terrence McNally
Middlesex - Jeffrey Eugenides
Giovanni's Room - James Baldwin
Rubyfruit Jungle - Rita Mae Brown
Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit - Jeanette Winterson
Angels in America - Tony Kushner

I'm really looking forward to it! :bounce:
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:06 PM
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1. Rubyfruit Jungle rocks!
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 01:06 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
It was one of the best books I read for Highschool English. Its a quick read, i finished it in a night casue I couldnt put it down!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:10 PM
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2. No William S Burroughs or Dennis Cooper?
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 01:10 PM by Spider Jerusalem
Guess they don't offer an Extremely Twisted Queer Literature class, eh?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:11 PM
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3. I was gonna say...wheres Naked Lunch????
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:11 PM
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4. Hehe, i know!
Still, it's sooooo much better than my last lit class... :boring:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:04 PM
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11. And what about Jean Genet?
Allen Ginsburg?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 PM
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22. No, they don't fit into the bourgeois criteria which well-meaning...
but misguided arbiters demand. See also John Rechy
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:52 PM
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26. Dennis Cooper
It's "Queer Lit", not "How To Chop Up Cute Nerdy Boys In Five Easy Pieces".

Might as well put Poppy Z. Brite on the syllabus....

Khash.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:03 PM
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28. Aaaaaah, "Exquisite Corpse"
:scared:

i took me a while to get through that book!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:14 PM
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5. Great syllabus! "Giovanni's Room" is a classic
Enjoy. :-)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:16 PM
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6. I'm sure I will! Thanks!
I've heard the prof is excellent :thumbsup:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:28 PM
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38. Yes, it is **beautiful***
wish I was reading for the first time....
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:56 PM
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7. Sounds like a good class
I read Rubyfruit Jungle, Oranges are not the Only Fruit, and I think Angels in America good books...enjoy
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:57 PM
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9. thanks baby!
:loveya:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:57 PM
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8. "Queer Literature?"
That's a class?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:10 PM
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13. Queer Studies in the humanities has only been
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 02:14 PM by alcibiades_mystery
kicking for about 20 years now.

Yes, it's a class, and from the looks of the syllabus, a good one (this is intro to Queer Literature, really). There's also Latino/Latina literature, African American literature, and feminist literature. What's the problem? These are real constitutencies in our society, and they have important and fascinating literary traditions. More importantly, if literature is, as critic Kenneth Burke once said, "equipment for living," these literatures can help us live with each other.

The term Queer is very specific, too. Yes, it is often used as a derisive term, but queer theory picked it up primarily to address all its various constituencies: not just LGBT, but any of the multitude of sexualities that are considered "not normal." So, the word's been reappropriated and turned against "normality" - when you look at things this way, it is actually the "normal" sexuality that is vacant - and ideal that is reached by nobody.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:12 PM
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14. wow...incredibly well put
:)
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:06 PM
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29. Wow! Incredibly well said!
Khash.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:04 PM
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10. 15 weeks?
The syllabus looks a little light to me.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:13 PM
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15. It's the dumbing down of undergraduate study
The students go ballistic if they have to read a book a week now (in a literature class!). You have to do a book every two weeks. I shit you not. However, what you lose in coverage, you might make up for in depth. (Although, quite frankly, I think a book like Rubyfruit Jungle, which is really just a lesbian themed pop novel, can probably be covered in a week). Thsi may work better. I know I'd like two weeks to work through the issues in Stone Butch Blues. No Kathy Acker, though?
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:12 PM
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33. No Kathy Acker
No Dennis Cooper, no Pat Califia, apparently no Dorothy Allison (if such a thing can be believed), no John Preston....

Nothing that's not "safe", middle class, "acceptable".

Queer studies is going the way of women's studies: it has to be nice and acceptable.

Khash.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:38 PM
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20. All depends on how in depth the coverage is
My James Joyce class in college only covered three books: Dubliners, Portrait of the Artist and Ulysses.

I don't think anyone would have considered that class to be "light", however.
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:06 PM
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12. oooh, Middlesex is a great book.
I think you'll like it. I haven't found a novel I really got into like that in ages.

Oranges are not the Only Fruit is really good too.

Good luck with your class! :hi:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:20 PM
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16. I have a question, it's not really called "Queer Literature" is it?
That being said, I have been meaning to read "Middlesex." Just got lots of others to read as well.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:21 PM
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17. yes
see post 13 if you need an explanation.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:25 PM
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18. ahh yes.. thank you for pointing that out
That was a great explanation. I was curious because it seems like a term with a negative connotation.

BTW, I sent you a PM a bit ago.

I think I'm heading out here in a few. Have a good one. :)
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:09 PM
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41. my class was called...The Lesbian Experience...
I brought Sniffa a couple of times...
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:36 PM
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19. Should be a good class
Middlesex is one of the best books that's come out in the last decade, IMHO.

Angels in America is also pretty fantastic.

Not too familiar with the others...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:08 PM
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21. I see that John Rechy is STILL a troublesome figure for Queer Lit...
classes.
Pity. At his best, his work has no equal.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:16 PM
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34. He really is good....
City of Night was simply one of the most important things I ever read.

(I disagree with him about S/m and it's political meanings - but even Numbers and The Sexual Outlaw were brilliant.)

Khash.
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MalibuChloe Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:17 PM
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23. I love Rubyfruit Jungle...
let us know how the rest are - I'd like to read some of them!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:46 PM
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24. OMG! I feel so old... you have a QUEER LITERATURE CLASS?
Wow. How cool is that? So where is "The Well of Loneliness" in that list?
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:47 PM
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25. i'm really excited for the class!
:bounce:
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:06 PM
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30. yick
Well of Loneliness may have been a ground-breaking novel in its day

today's its very dated

I wouldn't recommend it for any class

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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:07 PM
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31. Well, yes, but for its historical value...
otherwise... I wouldn't touch it either. Very dated... and depressing.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:10 PM
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42. I agree with dwick..... yick
I'd replace it with Bertrand Russell's defence of it....


Khash.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:03 PM
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27. All good choices, but I'd like to add some (for extra credit)
Becoming A Man by Paul Monette

City of Night by John Rechy

Anything Dorothy Allison ever wrote, but especially Bastard Out Of Carolina

The list seems a little short on the "sex" aspect of homosexuality.... so, Doc and Fluff by Pat Califia. (Kinda raw, but she talks about lesbian seperatism, "passing" women, what girls do in bed together, what boys do in bed together, butch/femme, top/bottom. Kinda raw, kinda rough...)

I'd also recommend Weinstein's Sexual Landscapes - jokey, talky, but explores the evolutionary reasons for homosexuality (as well as other sexually different people).

Khash.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:08 PM
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32. Hey, thanks for the suggestions!
I will definitely check those out! :)
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:19 PM
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35. I'll add one more...
Queer Lit, right? Not Fag and Dyke Lit?

Definitely read "Gender Outlaw" by Kate Bornstein (a transgender lesbian - she has a lot to say about gender and homophobia... and she's right.)

Khash.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:21 PM
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37. Cool!
and now to add to my ever growing piles of books :bounce:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:20 PM
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36. Also - "The Beautiful Room is Empty" by Edmund White.
I'd also recommend "The City and the Pillar" by Gore Vidal. Two great examples of classic queer lit.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:07 PM
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40. I was so remiss
How could I not list Edmund White or Gore Vidal? (In a perfect world I'd marry Gore. Myra Breckinridge alone is enough....)

And so many others....

I just reread Christopher Rice's A Density Of Souls - beautiful, tragic, angry, sad, and he understands what it means to grow up gay.
Even if those bad things in the novel don't happen to you.... it still makes it clear what it feels like.

Khash.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:49 PM
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39. hmmmm
*adding to my shopping list* for a few friends ...

:hi:
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