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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:24 PM
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Are there any other DU Females who find "Mo Wampum Tee's" Ads on DU
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:27 PM by KoKo01
really gross and offensive?

I know I won't get any answers...because it's TOO KOOL to trash women these days...but I find their T-Shirts and Logo's are so offensive I've now had to bypass and only read "right column" on DU's "Latest Breaking." UGH!

http://www.surrendermartha.com/
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:27 PM
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1. Yes, I do.
The "I have nice boobs" is tame compared to "The way to a woman's heart is through her fucking ribcage" that's on their web site. Definitely disrespectful and rude, if not downright hostile and scary.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:30 PM
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2. I agree.......
I wonder if any men will step up agree?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:30 PM
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3. I am with you there.
Plus now if someone sees me reading DU at work, what stands out, the word boobs.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:31 PM
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4. I'm a man and I find a few of those offensive.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:32 PM
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5. Here's some of their T-Shirt Stuff...really gross...and just a sample..
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:37 PM by KoKo01
....etc., etc.
I HAVE NICE BOOBS, I Don't Need Tractor to Pull Hoes, I like to get Waisted and Fuck, 'THE BEST WAY TO A WOMAN'S HEART IS THRU THE FUCKING RIBCAGE' T-SHIRT, THE Only Bush I trust is my Own....etc., etc.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:41 PM
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15. What the hell? A company that sells that is advertised here?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:48 PM
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23. On the homepage. I considered starting a thread last night, but I let Admi
answer to me first.

Word's out now, apparently. I won't discuss the response I received here...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:27 PM
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73. LOL....those are pretty lame...
I don't need a tractor to pull hoes? LMFAO!! :rofl:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:32 PM
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6. Well of course I do but I am a woman and a feminist,.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:32 PM
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7. Are these being advertised here on DU??
They are repulsive.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:34 PM
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8. Yep, money appears to be everthing....even here
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:35 PM by seriousstan
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:35 PM
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9. Homepage, no less. I e-mailed admins about them;
more than that I will not say at this point.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:35 PM
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11. Yes, but they are sponsors.
Looks like Skinner and co. need the bucks.
Perhaps Mo's t-shirt that shows up on DU could be something else? I notice they have some others that might be less offensive.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:42 PM
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16. Well I say we propose a fundraiser
and get this crap off of this board.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:32 PM
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82.  agree
donate every fundraiser for political discussion not to be insulted.

Disgusting
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:59 PM
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34. Let's advertise HUSTLER too while we're at it.
:eyes:
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FLSurfer Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:35 PM
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10. I agree with you KoKo
I looked at the site this morning and left pretty quickly.
Sexist T's combined with the "Abu Ghraib gear" T's was unexpected.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:36 PM
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12. Yeah, the Abu Ghraib stuff seemed odd.
Considering where they're advertising.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:40 PM
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13. I suspect there are many men besides GOPisEvil that do, too.
Those are just sick as hell, IMHO.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:40 PM
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14. I saw only 1
Future Procratinators of Tomorrow which is, well, OK ish.

The rest are varying degrees of nasty.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:45 PM
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17. Bloody idiotic most of them
I'm trying to picture them on people I know. The ones that would actually wear them vote republican. (offensive all by itself) But that's just the people I know
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:45 PM
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18. lots of offensive shit there
'I GOT HUMPED AT ABU GHRAIB PRISON' how is that funny? :eyes:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:55 PM
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26. WTF? This is ridiculous. Anyone think maybe they advertise here BECAUSE
they are RW and making fun of us? Or maybe this is some new thing... we actually are advertisting to our trolls... :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 PM
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29. I don't know...it seemed like Freeper Crap to me. "Tractor pulling hoe's?
I never thought I'd see this on DU... :shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #26
74. And that may explain
this evening's invasion of trolls.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:45 PM
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19. Offensive, yes.
Yes, as a matter of fact I do. :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:47 PM
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20. Make a contribution!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:47 PM
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21. I can see your point...
:kick:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:48 PM
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22. As a DU Male- I find them offensive.
If i should see a woman wearing that shirt, I would laugh in her face.

Now if it said "I have nice brains", I might be inclined to ask her about them... ;)
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:52 PM
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24. I never even took notice of the adds, any of them
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:53 PM by darkblue
Am I the only person whose mind seems to have built up an uncanny ability to tune out side bar adds?

But now that you mention them, yes, they're pretty damn stupid. The fact that they're advertised here at DU makes it even worse.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:53 PM
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25. I find it to be in poor taste
Are there THAT many freepin lurkers that those things would sell well from an ad on this site? Hmmm, I suppose if it takes $$ from freepers...

Nope, still in poor taste.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 PM
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27. What the fuck?
Just...what the fuck? Well, it's certainly been a fantastic week for women here at DU. Wonder what would happen if we...oh, never mind.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 PM
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28. Then don't purchase one
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:58 PM
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31. Just ignore this thread... the t-shirts aren't objectifying you...
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:58 PM by Misunderestimator
and you clearly don't care that they are objectifying the other half of DU.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:58 PM
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32. I wasn't planning on purchasing one....Were you?
:eyes:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. This is a progressive site, and those shirts do not match the progressive
ideal.

I find it amazing that a site that sells crap like that is advertised here.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:00 PM
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35. Thank you.
:loveya:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:02 PM
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37. I'd be interested to see what the deal is.
I wonder if that's a hack job, or just a package of advertising or if the administrators have some control.

Depending on that, I'll decide how pissed off to get and at whom. :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:03 PM
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39. I know....I kept thinking I wasn't seeing what I was seeing, but there
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:04 PM by KoKo01
it was every day all throughout Latest Breaking Scroll. It finally got to me...I tried to deal with it...thinking that this is a "new world" and that maybe I didnt' have a sense of humor about "my Bush" and "Boobs" but it finally freaked me "over the edge." I don't understand it...:shrug:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:05 PM
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40. Thanks GOPisEvil!
I hope we get more real men like you that will speak up about this.

:thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:09 PM
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51. Thank you! My sentiments exactly. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #33
77. I agree
Never thought I would see stuff like that here.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #33
81. Davey
:hug:

You're the best!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 PM
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30. I NEVER pay attention to the ads, but "I HAVE NICE BOOBS" ...
:wtf:

I just went to the home page and THIS Is what I see?

When did these first start appearing?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:00 PM
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36. I think about a week ago. n/t
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. It just seems really out of place.
I'm really interested at how it came to be here. Skinner doesn't strike me as the type who'd want to be associated with this, but I'd be interested in hearing from him.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:07 PM
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44. I sent him a PM about it.
I'm hoping he's not even aware of what they sell. Actually, I'm assuming that for now.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:08 PM
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46. Yes, I also am amazed that Skinner would do this. I'm anxious to
hear what the story is. Maybe there is a reasonable explanation.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #42
53. I did hear from him. I won't comment...
here. nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
43. Yeah, that caught my eye too. WTF???
This isn't right. There have to be other more progressive companies that would do well to advertise here.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:03 PM
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38. My "favorite"
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. Holy shit!
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #38
49. No, these are MUCh better
'IF I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, I'D TAKE MY COCK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH'

PLEASE TELL YOUR BOOBS, TO STOP STARING AT MY EYES,THANK YOU'

'KLIT LIQUOR' BLACK T-SHIRT

pad 'I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, BITCH' T-SHIRT

I SCORE BETWEEN PERIODS' T-SHIRT

HEY, BITCH.' T-SHIRT

'I MAY NOT GO DOWN IN HISTORY, BUT I'LL GO DOWN ON YOU'

I HAVE NICE BOOBS' BOYBEATER TEE

'THE BEST WAY TO A WOMAN'S HEART IS THRU THE FUCKING RIBCAGE' T-SHIRT


PROPERTY OF ABU GHRAIB PRISON ATHLETIC DEPT.' T-SHIRT

I GOT HUMPED AT ABU GHRAIB PRISON' T-SHIRT

I DON'T NEED A TRACTOR TO PULL HOES' T-SHIRT


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Progressive!!!

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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. How horribly disappointing this week is turning out to be here.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:05 PM
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41. Well, everything can be offensive if you read it.
I find the best tack is to just be outraged all the time.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. That's really constructive, thanks. I'm glad to know where YOU stand.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #45
61. Did you expect anything else?
It's been pretty obvious where some folks stand.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #61
65. I can't keep track of them all, frankly.
Just unbelievable.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #65
72. "You're either in favour of freedom of speech for everyone...
...or your not in favour of freedom of speech. I mean, Stalin was in favour of freedom of speech for the ideas he believed in, right?" - Noam Chomsky
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #72
78. No one's saying the shirts themselves should be banned.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:32 PM by GOPisEvil
However, this site has the right to accept or deny advertising as it chooses. In my opinion, this advertiser should not be advertising here, as their message is not in keeping with the stated goals of this site.

Added a couple of words for clarity.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #72
80. It's about DU advertising them, it's not about freedom of speech...
PUHLEAZE.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. In these times the "attacks" seem to come from ALL SIDES....
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:09 PM by KoKo01
it's hard to maintain "outrage" over offensiveness and stay healthy...At some point you start to get paranoid. If your friends turn into "enemies" then what does one have left? :crazy:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:08 PM
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47. I find some of them quite funny actually
Crude, but funny.


I like this one for the boys:
http://store1.yimg.com/I/achdirective_1855_8417735

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #47
55. Hey, wait a minute... You're right, that one is funny.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:17 PM by BikeWriter
But only in that it's sexism aimed at men, and we are seldom offended by that. ;-)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #47
56. How about "I GOT HUMPED AT ABU GHRAIB"
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:12 PM by Misunderestimator
I can't BELIEVE YOU would see anything funny in these (borrowed from Heddi's post above), which all appear on T-SHIRTS there:


'IF I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, I'D TAKE MY COCK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH'

PLEASE TELL YOUR BOOBS, TO STOP STARING AT MY EYES,THANK YOU'

'KLIT LIQUOR' BLACK T-SHIRT

pad 'I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, BITCH' T-SHIRT

I SCORE BETWEEN PERIODS' T-SHIRT

HEY, BITCH.' T-SHIRT

'I MAY NOT GO DOWN IN HISTORY, BUT I'LL GO DOWN ON YOU'

I HAVE NICE BOOBS' BOYBEATER TEE

'THE BEST WAY TO A WOMAN'S HEART IS THRU THE FUCKING RIBCAGE' T-SHIRT


PROPERTY OF ABU GHRAIB PRISON ATHLETIC DEPT.' T-SHIRT

I GOT HUMPED AT ABU GHRAIB PRISON' T-SHIRT

I DON'T NEED A TRACTOR TO PULL HOES' T-SHIRT


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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Those have no place here, no.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Even the URL is offensive. "Surrender Martha"??
Not ALL of them are offensive, but a lot of them are.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #56
64. I said I found some of them funny
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:18 PM by Revolutionary_Acts04
Not all of them.

I'm sorry if it offends you that I have a some what twisted sense of humor.

I belive most of those shirts are purly for shock value. And that's how I'm treating them, as something to get a rise out of people.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Well, I'm sorry that you don't see the PROBLEM with a progressive site
advertising such EXTREMELY sexist merchandise. It's amazing to me that you don't actually.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:25 PM
Original message
I'm leaving this conversation
I can't get into this with you, you obviously are worked up, and I DO understand why. I really do. I was just making one small comment, I'm sorry about that.
I don't want to fight with you, I like you, you are one of my favorite posters. So I don't want to piss you off more then I have. So I'll just leave this thread now.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:33 PM
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83. Worked up? Yep... seeing this crap definitely is cause for concern.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:10 PM
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54. I do.
x(
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:12 PM
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57. Yeah, these aren't good...
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:16 PM by gmoney

I know the host site can reject an advertiser if they want to, so I'd urge SkinnerCorp to take another pull on the handle and see if something less offensive turns up.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:15 PM
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59. I think they're awful.
And am not happy about it at all.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:16 PM
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62. This is unacceptable...
and I want an explanation from one of the admins.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:16 PM
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63. I don't mind and I have nice boobs too!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:26 PM
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70. "The way to a woman's heart is through her ribcage???"
Okaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:23 PM
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67. Hey..look at all these replies
"I know I won't get any answers...because it's TOO KOOL to trash women these days". I guess you were wrong.
I find it offensive that those generalizations are thrown around here almost every day, and there are many of us who don't find it "kool" to trash women at all.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:25 PM
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68. Personally I think this one's a real charmer
'IF I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, I'D TAKE MY COCK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH' T-SHIRT

Now WTF would wear that?

I don't know if I am offended or completely *stupified* by these shirt mantras.

I think tacky right wingers would be more likely to wear these things JMO


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:25 PM
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69. Recommended for greatest
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:26 PM
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71. I don't like them. Too obviously misogynistic
Get political ones, not females are for fucking ones. Please. We are a progressively liberal site, remember. Thank you.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:28 PM
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75. kick and recommend for greatest
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:29 PM
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76. I absolutely do.
Unreal.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:29 PM
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79. I started a thread on this in GD...
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:35 PM
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84. It is gone
for now it seems.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:36 PM
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85. Locking
The moderators have alerted the Administrators to this thread. I would encourage you all to take this up with them per the rules and contact them directly.

In the meanwhile we're locking this thread.
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