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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:44 PM
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Just How Evil WAS Walt Disney?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:46 PM
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1. Not as evil as Shrub (nt)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:27 PM
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2. hated Jews, crushed unions, plagarized, subjugated,
demanded unquestioned loyalty and expected immunity from any insult.

He dominated his family and close associates, and repeatedly tried to force a worldview of abandonment as a premise for renewal.

On the other hand, he brought much joy.

On the other foot, though, he was a quintessential conservative, trying to demand the resurgence of an intolerant and storybook fantasy past.

He was a mess and an authoritarian to the marrow.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:28 PM
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3. IOW, he was Dubya with talent
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:35 PM
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4. My favorite quote of Disney's:
Hey! Who put this god damned orange grove here?! RAZE IT! NOW!
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:36 PM
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5. i heard he used to keep Mickey in a cage.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:04 PM
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6. Eh, I know his nephew Roy, and he's a nice guy
always showed us artists respect. I know various people who used to work with Walt, and most of them had a love/hate relationship with the guy. I guess he's was no more or less flawed than every other corporate CEO out there.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:09 PM
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7. Do you know why Donald Duck never had any pants?
:scared:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:10 PM
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8. What a Mickey Mouse question!!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:12 PM
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9. An anti-semitic union-busting douchebag who unleashed Mickey Mouse and...
the banalities of Disneyland and Disney World.
Plenty evil.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:18 PM
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10. With all due respect to Hannah Arendt...
Banality isn't evil. Evil can seem banal sometimes, but banality by itself is simply boring, not destructive.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:48 PM
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13. With all due respect to Micky Mouse....
ask your local library for the text-version of Hannah Arendt. There is one.

Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:44 PM
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11. He hated Jews?
I had no idea. :o
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:46 PM
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12. All except for the ones who were, you know, good with money.
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:49 PM
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14. Yes, his father was heavily involved with the Populist movement...
of the 1890s. When all of the farmer's woes were caused by "the Jew bankers back east" A prejudice Walt carried for a lifetime.
Side note; This is why I DO NOT consider Wm Jennings Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech to be admirable. He was just Jew-baiting with high-flown demagoguery.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:53 PM
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16. 1890's Populism was complex...
There was a strong streak of nativism and anti-semitism to it. That's how Pat Buchanan can call himself a populist and still keep a straight face.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:56 PM
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17. But some of Walt's early movies demonstrated populism.
And some historians say that, early in his career, he was a populist.

There were problems with the Populist Movement of the late 19th century, but it wasn't evil. There were a lot of good aspects of it, too.

According to Lawrence Goodwyn, the Populist Movement was the last true democratic movement in America. I agree with him. And William Jennings Bryan wasn't a Populist. He only latched on near the end, when xenophobia and racism consumed the movement. IMO, making silver the central issue, and allowing outsiders to split black and white farmers from each other, caused the failure of the movement. If it had succeeded, we would live in a completely different America.

At the formation of the movement, black and white farmers participated equally in the movement and each accepted the other. It was only because of race baiters that the movement broke the two apart.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:29 PM
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18. He didn't just hate Jews...
Go Google "mickey mouse" and "racism". I've seen the strips he drew wherein Mickey uses the "N" word.

Yes, they exist.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:51 PM
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15. Also a villain of the HUAC hearings.
He named names. People lost their jobs, became unemployable, and committed suicide because of him.
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