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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:00 PM
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Ich bin ein Berliner - "I am a jelly doughnut"
If your are a resident of Berlin, that's what that phrase means. (A "Berliner" is a type of jelly doughnut made in Berlin.)

If you're not a resident of Berlin, then "Ich bin ein Berliner" is gramatically correct.

Those kooky Germans. Link:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_berli...
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herthaner Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:03 PM
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1. ...
Schwachsinn! :)

greetings from Berlin
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:04 PM
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2. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:06 PM
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3. Hi
Nun zwei Berliner - Willkommen :hi:
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:11 PM
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5. BabelFished...
"Now two citizens of Berlin - welcomes"
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:09 PM
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4. OK, I "BabelFished" that one
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 03:11 PM by Paragon
"BabelFished" -- any noun can be be turned into a verb or adjective these days.

"Schwachsinn!" is BabelFished into "Imbecility!"

Unless something was lost in translation, I believe herthaner is calling me an imbecile. In which case, of course, he'd be right. :silly:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:16 PM
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7. A more accurate translation, maybe...
...would be "weak in the mind".
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:18 PM
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8. no - it's more a harsh form of "nonsense"
The translation is harsher than it's use in German.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:20 PM
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10. Hi!
Meine Mutter ist von Berlin!

:hi:
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herthaner Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:43 PM
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12. Thanks
Thanks all for the welcome!!

@Kellanved: Danke. Aber rechne nicht mit allzuviel Untersttzung von mir. Fr die richtigen Diskussionen reicht mein English nicht aus. :/
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:16 PM
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6. untrue
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 03:51 PM by Kellanved
This is a common misconception - an urban legend.

1. The pastry "Berliner" is called "Pfannkuchen" ("Pancake") in Berlin. It has different names in the various German dialects (for example: "Kreppel"; "Krapfen"; "Berliner"; "Berliner Pfannkuchen"; "Pfannkuchen"...)
2. "Ich bin ein Berliner" is grammatically correct. It may sound strange for some German-speakers ("Ich bin Berliner" being the alternative), but is correct nonetheless. It is close to the local Berlin dialect; so it's an especially correct thing to say in Berlin.
3. Kennedy had the Phrase written up in several languages for his speech. All were translated by people knowing their respective languages - do you think a President's staff would produce such a blunder with a large number of speakers (native and non-native) nearby?
4. Don't mess with us Berliners on that Topic: Kennedy worship is alive and well in Berlin.

:hi:
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:19 PM
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9. Uh, yeah - I know
That was sort of my point. Read more than just the headline next time.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:31 PM
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11. I did
However I wanted to make the point clear, as I've read (And tried to debunk) that particular myth on DU several times already.

The about article is one of the better on that matter - thanks for posting it.

Sometimes I wonder why people want myths about JFK blunders to be true so badly? :shrug:

:toast:
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:02 PM
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13. welcome!
:donut:
:bounce:
:donut:
:bounce:
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