Are you Ready? Graphic Oral Sex and Meg Ryan coming to your Local Theater

[KoKo]

Hollywood goes down
A spate of new films -- one with girl-next-door Meg Ryan -- depict graphic oral sex scenes. Is
the film industry's portrayal of sexuality finally beginning to get real?

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By Rebecca Traister



Oct. 23, 2003 | Those who have nursed dirty Meg Ryan fantasies ever since she told
Anthony "Goose" Edwards to take her to bed or lose her forever in "Top Gun" probably
already have their tickets for "In the Cut," Jane Campion's choppy, erotic thriller that opened
on Wednesday. In it, a mustachioed and criminally attractive Mark Ruffalo takes
recovering-moppet Ryan to bed, plants her on her stomach, spreads her legs, and performs
oral sex on her from behind in a scene that lasts a breathtaking two minutes. A steady
master shot with no quick cuts and no "Is that what I think it is?" moments, the scene depicts
exactly what you think it does, and even the most jaded filmgoers will feel their pulses
quicken.

There is nothing like the visceral jolt of seeing Mark Ruffalo's face delicately ensconced in
Meg Ryan's hindquarters to hammer home exactly how rare it is to see oral sex depicted on
multiplex screens -- especially when the relevant roving lips reside on the faces of bona fide
movie stars. But Ryan and Ruffalo are about to get lots of company on their travels below
the belt, as Hollywood experiences early tremors of a graphic oral-sexual revolution. The
results may be titillating, but the cumulative impact speaks less to shock value than to the
way the film industry's portrayal of realistic sexuality is beginning to evolve.

"The Cooler," which will be released by Lion's Gate on Nov. 26, chronicles the life of a
rusted-out Vegas loser (William H. Macy) who hits the erotic jackpot in a relationship with
younger, blonder Maria Bello. After a rushed and awkward first encounter, Macy's
character makes amends by paying Bello lip service. The cut of the film that screened at the
Sundance Film Festival in January shows Bello's face grimacing in a quiet, almost pained
orgasm. The camera then moves lower, where Bello's own hand and Macy's face rest in the
actress's thatch of brunet pubic hair, earning the film a dreaded NC-17 rating.
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http://www.salon.com/sex/feature/2003/10/23/ryan/index_np.html

[mw]

1. Dammit. I'd rather see Meg performing oral sex. n/t

n/t

[KoKo]

2. You'll have to wait until the sequel for that one. Maybe next Spring?

????

[w13rd0]

3. We are still years from an 'even-handed'...

...willingness by Hollywood to treat male and female nudity with equal candor.

[KoKo]

4. But, do I really want to see this? Why is it entertaining?

:shrug: I don't know really. It's kind of sad. The movie must have some real plot problems, or the studio had a bad year.

[supernova]

18. My Wife is An Actress

Charlotte Gainsbourg has a wonderfully dead-on rant about female-only nudity in movies. The subtitles don't do it justice, though. "You think women don't won't to see men in the nude?"

If you haven't seen My Wife is An Actress, get it. It's utterly hilarious!

[ShaneGR]

5. Ummmm..... did they use a body double for the male lead?

If so, I want to be that body!

[Brian Sweat]

11. I think they already shot the scene.

Damn it.

[THUNDER HANDS]

6. oh my GOD, ORAL SEX!!!!!

Please, hide the children until we can get a few uzi's and M16's in there to make it safe for virgin eyes again.

:eyes:

[supernova]

30. Heh

You have summed up the situation perfectly, Magic Rat. :thumbsup:

[Wickerman]

7. Here's the good news

My wife always wants to see the chick flicks - and Meg is one of her favorite actresses. Woo-hoo, we'll be there opening weekend. Its true, my life is shwllow and has little meaning.

[CWebster]

8. Is it liberation or a coarse cheapening?

There is some kind of poisonous mindset creeping in that seeks to objectify women from detailed descriptions of Clinton's shinannigans to Kobe's accusers panties to the headlines in our local paper this morning detailing some woman's graphic description on the stand of her kinky escapades. Is anyone becoming increasingly more aware of this pattern?

Is it a race to the bottom to appeal to prurient interests- via the tabloid approach to making a quick buck or is there a rise in consciously portraying women as little more than sexual performers? Sex shouldn't be puritanically repressed but must it be reduced culturally to insensitive pornography?

I must be getting old.

[Wickerman]

17. I didn't think this was degrading to women

or have my own standards slipped so much? I thought since she was being pleasured it wouldn't be objectification of a woman. Being a male, perhaps my perspective is skewed. Now, if she were delivering the gratification then I could see that case, but I don't see it here. I am willing to be enlightened.

If its an issue of just going too far then I understand your point - and would agains say that my standards are lower.

[KoKo]

19. It's sad is that one has to feel they are "getting old" to have questions

about the entertainment value. But, as I said above, it's not the "entertainment value" it's the $$$$$$'s value.

[CWebster]

23. Compared to the tittering over titties and pubbies and such

I am sure you can see my point. ;-)

[leftchick]

9. wasn't there a great oral sex moment in "Coming Home"?

That movie with Jon Voight and Jane Fonda about 25 years ago? I remember that as being pretty graphic and Whew!, ah,a little embarassing to watch in a theater!

[MinnFats]

15. yes.

fonda says "can you feel that?"
voight replies: "I can't feel it, but I can see it."
lotta disabled people took heart in that scene because most people dismiss their sexuality.
course, at the time -- time has taken a toll -- i'm guessing most women would have preferred a disabled jon voight to a psycho homicical bruce dern.
that's just a guess.
now that you mention it, that film was pounded by the rw, for its antiwar stance....
that might make a good rental some weekend.

[mitchum]

47. Apparently it made her character's hair curl

and you thought Jon Voight's tongue was only good for saying crazyass things...

[angka]

10. the comments i have

would garner an nc-17 rating. sorry.

[chiburb]

12. Cumming soon to a theater near you? n/t

.

[dweller]

13. but is it truly 'oral gratification'

unless they have the requisite cigarette scene afterwards?

:shrug:

dp

[matcom]

14. why do we find this so hard to swallow?

sorry.

i know. :P

:spank:Matcom:spank:

[Oilwellian]

20. Men swallow?

Well I'll be. :D

[matcom]

51. heh

want me to 'demonstrate'?

:D

:*

sweet sweet Virginia! how i will miss you this weekend!

:loveya:

[madrchsod]

16. ah ..from all reports

megs face job would turn off most guys. besides if you want to watch this stuff rent porn or open your eyes....

[Skittles]

21. have you seen Meg lately?

she got so much plastic surgery she's hardly recognizeable. She no longer looks cute, just f***ing plastic.

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000341.html

[KoKo]

24. Is this for real? I haven't seen her lately, but is this just a cruelty

site? It's kind of grainey. I always liked her. If it's true it says she's very desperate. She looks about 13 in that picture. And isn't she getting a little mature to need to do a shock movie and get "cheek implants?" Did she also have implants in her other "cheeks?"

[CWebster]

26. You know,

I saw a picture of Ryan with her face recently stretched beyond recognition, while standing in the grocery store line. I pointed it out to my companion and he couldn't believe it. The recognizable features of her face were gone to be replaced by a generic blonde cover girl.

Perhaps it is a concern of this actress in particular, her image of the cute, sweetm perky girl next door. At least Goldi Hawn had the ability to laugh at herself, but where does the aging all-American girl go when she can no longer pass as 22? This is why I prefer European actress who grow with the fullness of time and character rather than constantly having to market themselves as giggling sex symbols. I call it the bimboization of America.

;-)

[SoCalDem]

38. She looks FREAKISH.. it's sad, because she really looked good..

Some women age well, and then go and ruin it with surgery.. Meg's appeal was always her "cute"ness, and she has lost it since the surgery..

another one that comes to mind is Melanie Griffith.. she was always cute and then she got "fishlips"...eeew..

Funny..they think they "need" the reapirs, and end up looking worse.. I will always wonder what Cher would have looked like.. I bet she would have been a stunningly gorgeous older woman.. Her acting career would have probably taken off again too..


that said.. if I could afford it, I might have one of my chins removed :evilgrin:

[Exultant Democracy]

29. It really is pretty sad

I noticed it the first time in the previews for some boxing movie she made. The worst part is that she was aging so well and she had to go mess herself up.

[chiburb]

22. Will the reviewers gush over this? n/t

.

[oneighty]

27. More importantly

Did Meg Ryan gush over this?

Anon.

Edit. Isn't she upside down..Something is not right here!

Anon.

[FloridaJudy]

60. Uh huh...

I have nothing against oral sex, but the body mechanics of this sound more than a little *weird* to me, unless the guy has a fourteen-inch tongue or something...

I always loved that scene in *Earth Girls Are Easy* when one of the Aliens uses his prehensile tongue to lick the bottom of a soda glass, and all the women suddenly start hitting on him.

[FDRrocks]

25. In the Cut?

very aptly named.

Saw the preview this weekend, doesn't even look like Meg Ryan in it.

[peekaloo]

28. Courage Under Fur

:spank:

[qb]

31. Um, "graphic" usually means close-up of tongue on the naughty parts

I think they're just hyping this to get sexually frustrated people too ashamed to rent pornos to go see the movie. I think it's also a vanity move for Ryan - "Look how bold and cutting-edge I can be!"

[maggrwaggr]

32. It's Clinton's fault of course

since he made oral sex glamorous and okay.

[supernova]

33. I'm all for more realistic sex scenes

in movies. I do wish there would be more equal time between male and female nudity. It seems expected of female actors but not male actors. That's where I have the complaint. Eroticism ought to be more equal opportunity, IMO.

I don't get the Meg Ryan bashing in this thread though. She looks fine to me. But then again, I'm 41, so :P :shrug:

[Character Assassin]

34. Rimshot!

Ba-dump!

[Alenne]

35. Good

They have been showing women give men oral sex in movies for years.

[geniph]

36. You know, I pray for the day

when no one bothers to comment on sex or nudity in movies because we've finally gotten adult enough to deal with it, but people are offended by graphic violence and cruelty.

We're a very weird society.

[TEXASYANKEE]

37. Down the memory hole.

I have a feeling this movie, even for all its hype, will fall down the memory hole and land smack dab next to that Bruce Willis movie. You remember the one where he plays a therapist in California who bares all and has outstanding poolside sex with that young brunette bombshell. Remember that movie?

[GOPisEvil]

39. I remember...

...Jane March...yowza...:D

Anyway, I'm glad that cunnilingus is getting some due, though. It's a highly underrated sexual activity. My fellow men should see this flick and take notes. :D

Edit - should I have used :P instead? :evilgrin:

[supernova]

40. The Color of Night?

or something like that. Yes, I hit rewind on that one... quite a few times.... repeatedly. LOL! :evilgrin:

Whatever you may say about him as an actor, or his politics, I like that Bruce likes to give us ladies our due too. LOL!

[sangh0]

50. A question about giving ladies their "due"

When one paid performer performs oral sex on another paid performer, is it "paying dues", or just "earning one's pay"?

[KoKo]

58. One assumes it's "Reciprocal Delight!"

Isn't that enough payment?

[TEXASYANKEE]

42. JM is well endowed, yes.

I will have to see Meg's movie before I suggest that guys take notes. Why? I've watched countless porno flicks and have yet to see a guy do the manuver in a way that excites me. In fact, the only "good" oral sex I've seen was between 2 lesbians.

"Cunnilingus" is quite a mouthful! ;-) Can't we cum up with a word for it that is easy to pronouce!!

[GOPisEvil]

43. LOL!!!!

"Cunnilingus" is quite a mouthful! That's the general idea, yes! :D

[Character Assassin]

52. It takes a cunning linguist to say cunnilingus

[KoKo]

57. Did it ever occur to you some of us are not interested in "Good Oral Sex"

portrayals? What we do in the privacy of our bedrooms or in the grass, isn't what we want to pay to see?

So, if there are more of you than there are of us....then it seems we have a discussion.

But, just understand, that there are many of us who don't want to see Ryan's ass licked! And, we don't want our kids seeing it, either.

:-)'s

[Character Assassin]

62. Yes, you're called 'People who don't go see this particular movie'.

There is a subset of your people known as ''People who don't go see this particular movie and desire that their offspring not see it either'.

Glad we could clear that up.

[populistmom]

53. How about Harvey Keitel in The Piano?

There's a few naked males in movies. I think Robin Williams was in The Fisher King as well, maybe Moscow on the Hudson too. I seem to also remember some scene in a movie with a naked Juilan Sands.
As for Meg, well she seems to have gotten a little too much facial work done I agree, but as for the scene, I'm all for it. Maybe it will help encourage more oral sex for women, which as a woman, I'm completely and totally for!!! :evilgrin:

[corarose]

41. How old is Meg's son?

Hmmmmmm!

I don't think that I would want my kid to see me in a movie like that but then again I don't have any kids except my Cat's.
If my Cat saw me in a movie like that he would disown me.

[Sean Reynolds]

44. Who says she'll let her kids watch?

[corarose]

45. His buddies might watch and tease him

But it's Hollywood and the kids know how movies are made so it's not as bad as if they didn't know.

[mitchum]

46. So,now she's making lick flicks instead of chick flicks?

[PopSixSquish]

48. LOL!!!

well done!

[KoKo]

54. ROFLMAO! SICK LICKS! With Goose lips! Botox.....

I don't mean to be cruel here......but what you said is very funny!

[Guaranteed]

49. Yeah....I've got it d/led on my computer....

Yeah.....I'm cool. :smoke:

If anyone has any questions, you can refer them to my public relations officer.

[Deja Q]

55. On the plus side, the envelope can be pushed only so far before

there's nothing left of the envelope to push.

My point: Hollywood is running out of NEW AND NOVEL IDEAS, even when they resort to x-rated shenannigans that we've all seen in porn.

Hollywood is doomed.

:party:

[KoKo]

56. Well, you have an excellent point. I really don't want to pay$$'s to see

Ryan's butt being ......whatever......

[BiggJawn]

59. Sounds more like a Rim Job to me...

"...plants her on her stomach, spreads her legs, and performs
oral sex on her from behind ..."

Works for me.


And are we gonna be treated to JM's tongue going "lickity split" or is it going to be 2 minutes of over Meg's shoulders with his face behind her bum and him making the usual "MMMMM....MMMMMM" noises?

[donotpassgo]

61. I'm all for a Graphic Oral Sex scene with Meg Ryan and Me :-)

Or is it me and Meg Ryan?

[JVS]

63. Wake me up when she takes it in the can.

[sleipnir]

64. I'll finance that movie personally