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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:34 PM
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Ok, so Aliens is still one of my favorite flicks EVER...but...
I still don't understand why they wait til the reactor is "gonna blow" to think about bringing the spare ship down. I don't get it.

Other that that what's not to love...fire, explosions, bugs, a young and hot Michael Biehn and Ripley kickin' alien butt.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:36 PM
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1. because
the crash of the original ship is what damaged the reactor. So it all sort of had to happen in that order.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:38 PM
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2. I know...but there's a lot of time in between...
the first ship crashing and when they think "wow we got a spare up there" where they weld stuff and hang out in the operations center and whatnot. Why didn't they send someone to go fetch the other ship first thing? :shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:39 PM
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3. It would have been a short movie that way.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:42 PM
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5. I know...I know...
the answer is always "cause that's what was in the script". :)

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:46 PM
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7. it's like a tell my daughter when she questions a plot point
"It's a movie, go with it."
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:41 PM
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4. If one looks at the sequence of events...
... it doesn't seem too odd to me--they're kind of otherwise occupied with getting the barriers up and taking care of business. I think that very brief scene where they point out the emergency venting was not edited quite as well as it could be, though--it reads as if they've known about the processor damage from the moment of the crash of the landing ship, although that's the first the viewer sees of it. If it were done as if they were discovering at the same time the viewer does, it would be completely seamless.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:44 PM
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6. I'm just drunk enough...
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 10:44 PM by VelmaD
to be annoyed by the whole thing tonight. :)

It seems like Bishop's time woulda been better spent leaving to call down the ship rather than poking and prodding at the face-huggers.

But I guess everyone was under a little bit of stress and not thinking 100% clearly.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:47 PM
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8. I like your DUer quotes. :) Very nice. :) n/t
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:49 PM
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10. Thanks...short bus is pouting...
because I don't have one from him on there. He's a big baby. :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:51 PM
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12. I remember when I first saw it in the theatre back in 1979, I was bothered
by that, too, but I understood that they were kind of distracted.

It was kind of like when in the original Star Trek, people were trapped on the planet's surface because the transporter was broken, and no one ever mentioned using the shuttlecraft to go down and get them. (There was one episode where they DID explain that, but there were several where they didn't.)
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:49 PM
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9. Honestly?
I think "Aliens" is the best sci-fi horror movie ever made.

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:50 PM
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11. It's on my top 10 flicks list...
not necessarily in the 10 best films...but definitely one of the best flicks. :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:53 PM
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13. Leonard Maltin's book gives it **1/2
out of a possible ****
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:01 PM
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14. Leonard Maltin is a retarded intellectual wannabe
B-)
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:23 PM
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15. Off-topic but...
If you liked Aliens, have you ever watched Dog Soldiers?
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:24 PM
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16. Nope...
doesn't ring a bell.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:29 PM
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17. The first thought is defense
They don't know just how bad it is at first. They think they can set up a defensive line. So they busy themself with that. After the crash they have to secure a position to deal with survival from. The initial thought of sending someone out there alone to to contact the ship is a high risk one. They need to assess just how depserate their situation is.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:47 PM
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18. What I will NEVER get...
is how they could go all that way with a relatively small number of troops, in this HUGE ship, set up orbit and then EVERYONE leaves the mothership; not ONE human is left behind in case of some sort of emergency... and when they get down there, they leave ONE woman on the transport (or were there two people, a guard as well?... you only see her get "alienated", though...)
I does bother me when films have such glaring holes in their internal logic; but there is so much to like about Aliens, so I just kinda overlook it...
There's always plenty of good fun in almost any Cameron film...

D X Stone
"I LOVE horror movies, man... I just don't want to LIVE in one."
http://presidentevilonline.com
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:50 PM
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19. There were two people on the transport...
but what I don't understand is why it was parked on the ground where the aliens could get into it. Especially after the big deal they made earlier in teh movie about it setting down, letting the armored vehicle off, then immediately taking off again. :shrug:
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:50 PM
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20. Some great lines in that film, too...
and oddly, all that come to mind are really apropos for the times we live in:

"Oh, that's great man! That's just fuckin' great! We're fucked now, man! That's it! Game over, man! GAME OVER!"--Hudson, after the 2004 election

"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure."--Tom Delay

"Get away from her, you BITCH!"--Richard Simmons, defending Michael Jackson

"Not bad for an android."--Democratic response to the last State of the Union speech



D X Stone
"I LOVE horror movies, man... I just don't want to LIVE in one."
more dark fun at
http://presidentevilonline.com
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