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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:03 AM
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Hypothetical Political Fights!
Pick your favorite one on one political battles! Who would win if Bobby Baker fought Karl Rove? Andrew Jackson versus Dwight Eisenhower? Think of some more!

(For the record, it would be Rove and Jackson. LBJ was his own best political strategist. Rove is the real president. Ike was the first choice of both parties, whereas Jackson was robbed of his first election, and was tough enough to tell the Supreme Court where to get off.)
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:28 AM
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1. George Wallas Vs FDR
In a No-Holds-Barred Texas-Chainsaw Wheelchair Grudge Match!!!!

Let's Get Ready To Rumble!!!!!
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:39 AM
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2. Jackson told the Supreme Court off, all right.
When the Supreme's said it's unconstitutional to steal land from the Cherokees, Jackson did it anyway.

Jackson wins against Ike because Jackson was a barbarian.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 08:05 AM
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21. I think that Jackson would be a Republican today.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 08:06 AM by Heaven and Earth
I also think he should be off of the $20 bill for what he did.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:39 AM
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3. Get Huey Long in the ring!
The Kingfish would devour any rightist thrown his way. God, I long for the days when there were Democrats who were flamboyant, quasi-socialists.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:49 AM
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11. I like your style DerekG! Yes, he would....
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 12:57 AM by Robeson
...could you imagine a blueblood like Bush on stage talking about the Mercan people, then Long pulls off a shoe to show the hole in his sock, and asks the people, "does Bush have a hole in his sock like I do? Like the American people do?" Case closed.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:41 AM
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4. How about...
Janet Reno kicks the crap out of Karl Rove...

And they do it in a vat full of baked beans :headbang:
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sans qualia Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:42 AM
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5. William Jennings Bryan vs. Noam Chomsky
My money's on Chomsky.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:46 AM
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7. Bingo
Chomsky would mop the floor with him
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:48 AM
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8. Bryan grew up on a farm
he was probably a lot tougher than he sounded. Chomsky is a nerdy MIT professor.
My money is on WJB
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sans qualia Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:52 AM
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12. Plus he has God on his side
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:59 AM
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15. Wouldn't Chomsky like Bryan?
Bryan was a fierce critic of the Spanish American War and WWI (resigning from Wilson's cabinet in protest).

If the two were scheduled to speak the same night, however, I think Chomsky would be well advised to go first. That drone voice of his wouldn't play well if Bryan opted for another one of his "Cross of Gold" bits.
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sans qualia Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:08 AM
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18. Yes
That's what would make it an interesting fight.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:14 AM
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20. My money would be on Bryan.....
...as hard as many Democrats tried to displace him, they couldn't. He was a master orator. He could rouse the people. Noam may appeal to the intellectual elite - and he appeals more to me - but the majority of people, aren't intellectuals, or elites.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:20 PM
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23. I wouldn't make that bet.
While Bryan was a fundie, he was also a populist... for the working people, unlike today's fundies who have sold out thier economic interests for symbolism.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:46 AM
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6. A weasel like Rove would not last 5 minutes with Jackson....
...Jackson would challenge him to a duel, and Rove would hide in the lower decks on the next ship out to Europe, so that Jackson couldn't shoot him. Politics were much different then. And if one instigated false stories, one may have to pay the ultimate price if one were called on it.
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:49 AM
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9. Ann Coulter and
...J Edgar Hoover

Well, they're both cross-dressers, right? Fair fight!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:49 AM
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10. Aaron Burr v Mark hannah?
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:54 AM
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13. How about Aaron Burr vs. Tom Delay......
...when Delay comes up with some unfounded slime against Burr or his family, Burr just shoots his ass....
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:58 AM
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14. ROFLMAO
What about Senator Preston Brooks, who beat Senator Sumner brutally with a cane?
I'd love to see him and Tom Delay brutalize each other
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:05 AM
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16. A fantasy come true. That would be better than sex....as long as....
...Delay came out on the short end of the...cane.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:07 AM
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17. Preston Brooks delivered the beating because Sumner was an abolitionist
so as far as I am concerned, Brooks and DeLay are brother reactionaries of a different era
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:10 AM
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19. Yep, you could transpose the names.....
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 08:42 AM
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22. Churchill vs. Churchill
Early in his political career Winston Churchill was a Liberal, later he became a Conservative. To see the two fight it out against each other would be stunning.

It would have to be a proper set-piece style fight, where the magnificent oratory could really let rip.
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