Pedro vs Clemens. Red Sox -Yankees thread.

[maveric]

If the Sox take this one they'll take it all IMO.

C'mon Sox, lets make this Clemens'last game ever!

[clar]

1. I predict

that this will be a legendary game. Go Pedro!! ( I'm so excited)

[maveric]

4. I have to leave for work at 2:30 PST!!!!

So I'll only get to watch a couple of innings. SHIT!! And my walkman radio is broken, the TV's at the hospital I work at dont get Fox!!
This is terrible! If I didnt need the money so badly I'd call in sick.

[clar]

7. That's terrible!

I'd go out of my skull if I couldn't watch this game.

[MaineDem]

2. Pitch like hell, Petey!!!!

I am already a nervous wreck! :D

[SiobhanClancy]

3. Nervous??

I've been on pins and needles all day. When I'm nervous,I cook..so far a shepherd's pie,brownies and a grapenut pudding:)

Go Sox!!!!!!

[clar]

5. Wilson- gone

Jeter up.

[Blitz]

6. GO YANKS!!!!

Misery and disappointment is a way of life in Beantown. Nothing that happens today will change that. Pedro is going to do his Oil Can Boyd impersonation and Roger Rocket is going to shoot down the Sox. The only question is, who plays Bill Buckner today?

Oh, and did I mention:

GO BOMBERS!!!

[maveric]

8. Are the Fenway fans chanting "Rogerrrr"!

Like they did to Strawberry in 86?
Whats wrong with Nomah?

[SiobhanClancy]

9. Wonderful!

2-0 Boston. Now if only poor Nomar could get a hit..he must be suffering.

[Blitz]

10. It's the hair

If he shaved his head like the rest of the team he'd be fine. But Mia won't hear of it. You watch, Boston fans are gonna blame her forever ... especially when Nomah is playing for the Mets in a couple of years ;) .

[JohnKleeb]

12. horray

:beer:

[SiobhanClancy]

11. I can see this is going to be another nailbiter

I think it's time for a drink

:beer:

[StaggerLee]

13. Karim Garcia?

Where in the heck did he come from? Last time I checked he was playing for the Tigers. That was about 3 years ago. Shows you how much I keep up on baseball anymore.
BTW- Randall Simon (Cubbies) played for the Tigs too at one point. I am glad to see him doing well in the playoffs.

GO BOSOX!

[Blitz]

14. Is that a "Lets Go Yanks" chant

I hear at Fenway?

Yes, I believe that it is.

[Blitz]

15. The best shortstop in Boston today

Just tied up the game!!!

[maveric]

17. The 3rd best shortstop in baseball just muffed one.

1. Nomar
2. A-Rod
3. Jeter

[Blitz]

18. Maybe in the regular season

and that would be A-Rod, Nomah, Jeter.

But there isn't a single player in baseball you'd rather have in October over Jeter. He's simply the best there is when it really matters.

[Uzybone]

50. even if you are a homer

how can you rate Nomah over A-Rod. LOL. Youve lost all credibility.

[StaggerLee]

16. The SS from Kalamazoo

Just tied it up.

Dahg diggety dahg it!

[MaineDem]

19. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Oh dear

[maveric]

20. Pedro aint got his stuff today.

The big bats have to come alive to win this one.

[Blitz]

23. This should be an interesting half-inning

The Sox were lucky to get out of that with only two runs scored but Pedro should have heard from the umps, if not tossed for threatening to hit someone in the head.

Doesn't matter. The Yanks want him in there today.

[JohnKleeb]

21. That really sucks

:cry: please beat the frigging yankees.

[Blitz]

24. You're young

You'll get used to the losing. It's way of life for Sox fans. Without it, they'd be no different than Marlins fans.

[JohnKleeb]

32. lol I am not a redsox fan dude

:) hehe. I am rooting for the red soxs because I hate the yankees lol. You wanna see my team?
Yeah thats my team not the red sox. Yeah I am young. I just hate the yankees with a passion lol.

[Blitz]

35. The Orioles?

Oh, god, I'm so sorry.

Well, at least they don't torture you with the possibility that they'll be good like the Sox do ;) .

[JohnKleeb]

36. lol I even made a thread to point it out

Dont be sorry because lol if Jeffrey Meier hadnt been at the game in 1996 we would have gone all the WAY.

[Blitz]

49. But he WAS at the game

That's the Yankees. And besides, if memory serves, the O's lost that series four games to one. The idea that they would have gone all the way would hold a bit more water if they had managed to win even one in Baltimore instead of losing three straight.

[JohnKleeb]

57. Yeah

no it was 4 games to 2 Blitz. Plus we would have had momentum going home. Hence. We didnt lose 3 straight, we won game 4 or 5 I think. That kid screwed things up, I remember it bitterly, and then the media makes him in to a hero :agh:

[Blitz]

70. Four games to one

grasshopper. And champions get through setbacks. The O's were never close:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1996_ALCS.shtml

[JohnKleeb]

71. whatever

I think going in to Baltimore up 2-0 would have give some momentum.

[Blitz]

73. They didn't need momentum

they needed heart. They were so busy whining about a twelve year old boy that they dropped three straight at home. Champions don't do that.

[JohnKleeb]

79. if they had won game 1 I say thats the case

That kid Meier really won game 1 for you guys and it naturally bothered people. I was whining lol yeah because I was 9 and it still pisses me off.

[MaineDem]

22. This could get nasty

Yikes

[Blitz]

26. And it did

Roger's pitch wasn't even inside ...
And Martinez is an asshole; throwing an old man to the ground. He needs to be tossed.

[Beetwasher]

29. Agreed. WTF?

What a scumbag Martinez is...Ramirez is just trying to get Clemens ejected, that pitch wasn't even close...Martinez needs to be tossed immediately though, that was incredibly innapropriate what he did to Zimmer...

[clar]

25. Oh, shit

they're all wound a little tight. This is not good. WTF????

[MaineDem]

27. Holy shit

Zimmer was wrong!

I'm sorry to see this happen though.

[Wendec]

28. Yeah but

I'm sure Pedro Martinez had a lot to fear from a 72-year old, short fat guy. The usually ambivalent tv crew isn't being too generous to the Sox.

[MaineDem]

34. Radio says Zimmer threw a left at Pedro

The tv people are idiots.

[Beetwasher]

38. I dunno

It didn't really look like he was throwing a punch. It happened quickly and I couldn't really tell who made the first move. He might have been putting his hands up to stop Martinez...

[Blitz]

39. It didn't look like he "threw" a left

his left arm went up ... but it was not a punch, as far as I could tell.

[wrkclskid]

44. McCarver s a yankees homer

especially when they play the Sox! and Joe Buck corrected him and said it looks like Zimmer did take a shot at him. I do think Pedro could have found a better way to stop him however.

[clar]

30. Yeah

but Zimmer's an old guy, and he threw him down pretty hard.

[wndycty]

47. Zimmer's age does not matter. . .

If he is going to step to Pedro he deserves everything he gets. If his age is to be of concern he has not business on the field.

[UnAmericanJoe]

31. Pedro was wrong to throw Zimmer down

But I'm not sure what people expected him to do when Zimmer took a swing at him.

And what the hell was Zimmer thinking??

[SpiralHawk]

45. Zimmer, a former manager of the Red Sox,

was severely beaned early in his baseball career. If I remember correctly, his injury was so severe that he had to stop playing and get into other aspects of the game.

He undoubtedly lost his cool today when he saw Pedro gesturing provocatively at his head.

Zimmer definitely started today's altercation, by charging and flailing at Pedro. He deserved to get pushed down. But Pedro -- and Manny -- are hardly distinguishing themselves as role models of sportsmanship.

I'm a Boston fan, but I think the team is behaving boorishly in these playoffs. Good athletes, but not up to true championship demeanor -- at least not yet.

[Uzybone]

72. Good point

he has a plate in his head because of that beaning.

[Blitz]

33. It's completely unfair to Clemens

to have this kind of delay in the middle of an inning. They need to make a decision and get the game going.

[clar]

37. Agreed

So far this game isn't exactly what I'd hoped to see.

[UnAmericanJoe]

41. Zimmer lost it.

I think it was very clear that Pedro wasn't looking to duke it out with Zimmer. Don Zimmer was the one moving forward aggressively and he was the one who reached out.

The other thing I'll say is that this whole thing was ENTIRELY Pedro Martinez's fault. Manny Ramirez overreacted for sure, but given what had occured earlier I'm not sure you can place more than slight blame on him.

I cannot believe no one was ejected.

[Wendec]

51. Question

Is there another sport where that type of altercation would not have resulted in some type of ejection?

[VelmaD]

53. If it wasn't the playoffs...

I'm sure there would have been ejections. I think the upires just didn't want to eject anybody and effect the outcome of the game.

[wndycty]

54. Yes. . .

And the person being ejected would have been the coach (Zimmer). I would say in football and basketball.

[Blitz]

58. You don't think Ramirez deserved to be tossed

for trying to start a fight (running to the mound, bat in hand) on a pitch that was nowhere near him (if it had been lower it would have been a strike)? That wuss was bailing out of the way when the pitch was still 10-20 feet from home plate. He just looked foolish bailing on a pitch over the middle of the plate.

[wndycty]

76. Many players charge the mound without making contact. . .

. . .and that is not necessarily grounds for ejection. Had he connected or even swung he would have been ejected.

[HuckleB]

111. Yup.

He had no beef. He made it up to create something. He should have been tossed.

[StaggerLee]

40. I don't care how long Zimmer has been in baseball

He needs to keep his ass in the dugout. Period.

[clar]

42. Hurrah

Great fucking catch!! So satisfying to deprive pretty boy Jeter of a HR

[Uzybone]

43. Red sox prove lack of class

is Pedro ejected yet? Im at work so I cant see or hear. All I have is espn gamecast.

[wrkclskid]

46. haha must be hard to follow something like this

on one of those! were they able to tell u about what was going on in the fight! If I saw those kind of details on gamecast I prob would figure it had been hacked!

[wndycty]

48. If Zimmer wants to tangle. . .

. . .he deserves whatever Pedro gives him.

[jus_the_facts]

52. Pedro is gettin' what he deserves at this point in time...A LOSS!!

....and *hopefully* the Sox will be DENIED yet again.....LONG LIVE THE CURSE!!!!! :evilgrin:

....that was one of the most disgusting displays I've ever seen...all the way around. :puke:

[wndycty]

55. Well I hope you fault Zimmer

:kick:

[jus_the_facts]

56. the fault lies with Pedro for being a cocky asshole....

....yeeeeeeah that's MY BIASED OPINION of the situation :P

[MaineDem]

59. Was he suppossed to take the hit from Zimmer?

What was Zim doing on that side of the field anyhow?

I dunno.

[wndycty]

60. I would have dropped Zimmer myself. . .

:kick:

Why does not someone blame Garcia for over reacting to getting hit?

[jus_the_facts]

62. Pedro started it all by being cocky pointing to his head like he MEANT....

...that he was AIMING AT THE BATTERS HEAD....guess that's a good thing and should just be overlooked? As I stated above the whole thing stinks but it all started with PEDRO regardless! :eyes:

[wndycty]

67. You are assuming. . .

. . .he meant he was aiming at the head. For others he might have been indicating that he had gotten inside the Yankees head.

[jus_the_facts]

74. wtf ever.....you can assume all you want.....

.....the facts speak for themselves...sure ain't workin' so far if that's what YOU wanna ASS U ME....but it ain't ovaaa til it's ovaaaa :P

[wndycty]

77. Look I am not a Red Sox fan. . .

. . .I am actually trying to be objective (well actually I did bet a friend $100 that the Yankees will not make the World Series). I am a long suffering White Sox fan who has succumbed to Cubs fever!

[jus_the_facts]

120. ....WHOOP THERE IT IS.....Pedro didn't get in my boys heads......

.....one game closer to havin' to pay up....but once again...it ain't ovaaa til it's ovaaaaa!!!! :evilgrin:

[HuckleB]

124. Pedro could have gotten out of the way, easily.

Besides, it's not like Zimmer was swinging. He ran up to him to give him a piece of his mind. Pedro's actions tonight were crap. Hitting Garcia like that. Pointing to his head and threatening Posada. Then tossing a 72-year-old to the ground.

And Manny wasn't much better. He had no beef, and yet he started crap anyway.

I don't care who wins this series, but I'm glad the Yankees won tonight. And you can bet that I haven't said that very often in my lifetime.

[MaineDem]

61. Two on

Time to come through, Nomar!!!!

[jus_the_facts]

63. Awwww.......NOT!!!!!

:P

[Blitz]

64. Two on

and three out.

Thank you Nomah. Thank you Manny.

One more inning until Mariano Rivera.

[Uzybone]

65. nice whiff

typical choke. keep it up Nomar...this way itll be over in 5

[MaineDem]

66. God Bless America again!!!

Gads!

This must be a MLB thing. The Sox usually only do it on Sundays.

[wndycty]

68. Its weak ass, fake ass patriotism. . .

Take Me Out To The Ballgame is one of the most patriotic songs you can sing. But Bush and co. want to define patriotism.

[StaggerLee]

69. That Budweiser commercial was friggin' hilarious

Sorry but that was the first time I had ever seen it.
:P

(the t-ball guy playing catcher- blocking the plate and failing miserably)

[MaineDem]

75. We all agree

...that Bush needs to go.

It's exciting to know that the energy we put into rooting for our favorite team also goes to making sure we have another one-term Bush President.

Regardless of which team wins (and I have my hopes)the bigger game is played next November!

[Uzybone]

81. amen to that

n/t

[VermontDem2004]

78. Cowboy up!!!

Hit a home run!!!!

[VermontDem2004]

80. At least a run scores

:)

[Blitz]

82. Cowboy

DOWN!!! (Well, Veritek, actually)

[Blitz]

83. Nice play Aaron!!!

If he had been at third from the start that first Sox run wouldn't have scored.

[Blitz]

84. It's time for Rivera

Sox fans may as well hurry up and go to beat the traffic. :) :) :)

[jus_the_facts]

86. ....they've been leaning on him so hard......

....let's hope *fingers crossed* THE HEAT IS ON!!!!! :evilgrin:

[clar]

85. As an ever hopeful

Red Sox fan with hundreds of wrong predictions in the past, I predict now that the Sox will take the lead in the eighth. (It's almost obligatory to remain hopelessly deluded)

[MaineDem]

87. Timlin just had a great inning

No need to give up yet. :)

[JohnKleeb]

89. saw via a gamecast

The ESPN one sucks :( so I used CBSs

[Blitz]

90. These are the Boston Red Sox

If they take the lead in the eighth, it'll only be sio that they can break your heart even more in the ninth (or the 10th ... ah, 1986 ... ).

[MaineDem]

95. You know something?

I don't really care. It's been a great season with a lot of fun. This is gravy. I'll still be a fan next year.

I've been a fan for more years that most people here have been living. :)

Edited cause these old fingers missed a letter.

[Blitz]

97. "I don't really care."

Ah, the sweet sound of an opposing fan giving up (in game 3; c'mon, you're not in L.A.!!). As a New York fan, I never get tired of it.

I remember watching Oakland fans filing out of their stadium with their team down by just a couple of runs to the Yanks (in 2001) ... in the 7th inning. Weak.

[MaineDem]

100. You misunderstood

I don't care if they break my heart. I'm not giving up anything. I'm still sure the Yanks will be playing golf next weekend.

And, listen, don't talk about fans leaving the park. Did you see Yankee Stadium in Game 1? Good Lord, the Yankee fans were trying to get home in time for the news. :evilgrin:

[clar]

103. Please

don't remind me. I was at Shea in box seats (too close and too personal) in 1986 when BB broke my heart.

[Blitz]

117. If it's any consolation

Mookie would've beat it out even if Buckner had played it clean. And the game was already tied at that point. BB got WAY too much grief for that. A borderline hall of famer forever damned by one play.

[VermontDem2004]

88. Sorry to hijack this thread but....

Arizona State beat Oregon 59-14.

[Blitz]

91. Who cares

UVa lost in overtime ... I don't want to talk college football ... especially when my Yanks are ruining Boston's day :) .

[VermontDem2004]

94. I DO!

:evilgrin:

[VermontDem2004]

92. Cowboy up!!!!

For a second time.

[Uzybone]

93. Whew

we need 2 runs now for insurance. We face the top of the order coming up and I dont think Mo should get another 6 out save opportunity. He is the best there ever was but that would be a bit too much, even for him.


on edit: well I guess Torre disagrees with me...GO MO!!!!

[jus_the_facts]

96. oooooooookay.....LET'S GO YANKEES.......

....NEEDS US SOME MORE RUNS....RIGHT HERE AND NOW!!! :bounce:

[Blitz]

98. More runs?

What for?

[jus_the_facts]

99. ahhh just a little bit o' paddin'? Yeeeee Nick just got a base hit!!!!

........LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!!! :evilgrin:

[FlashHarry]

102. Double play!!!

Sox shut 'em down!

[jus_the_facts]

105. aight.....LET'S GO MARIANO.......HEAT....HEAT.....HEAT....

.....LET'S GO YANKEES!!!! SHUT 'EM DOWN AND SHUT 'EM UP!!:P

[jus_the_facts]

106. another altercation......lovely lovely lovely.....

:puke:

[jus_the_facts]

107. 1 down 2 to go.......LET'S GO MARIANO!!!!!!!!

.......LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[jus_the_facts]

109. WOOOOOOHOOOOO WHAT A CATCH NICK JOHNSON! 1 MORE OUT.....

.........LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[Blitz]

116. Paddin'???

We don't need no stinkin' paddin'!

[jus_the_facts]

118. I LOVE IT....I LOVE IT.....I LOVE IT.......fuck PEDRO!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!

.......LONG LIVE THE CURSE OF THE BAMBINO!!!!! :bounce:

[Blitz]

119. It's almost as if the Sox fans don't know

that it's a 100 year curse. Don't even think about a ring until 2018.

[jus_the_facts]

123. Hee heee heeeeeeeee.....no doubt....

...it's like DEJA VU....ALL OVER AGAIN!!! :D

[JohnKleeb]

121. If I were a witch lol I would put a curse on the yankees and the GOP lol

:evilgrin:

[Blitz]

122. It's been tried

The Bambino and The Boss are just too powerful:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/minkoff/031010.html

[JohnKleeb]

125. fuck

I need to go to fucking Salem and ask those witches for help or maybe I can take joy in the fact that the yankees wont reign in terror forever.

[Blitz]

126. It's not too late for you, my young jedi

Rooting for The Evil Empire is nothing but fun. Save yourself years of heartache and therapy and join us now.

Come, we'll laugh at Boston's pain together.

[jus_the_facts]

127. yep.....RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.....

:evilgrin:

[VermontDem2004]

101. Cowboy up!!!!

For a third time.

[Blitz]

104. I'm rooting for the Cubbies

I mean, as a Yankee fan, could anything be sweeter than knocking out BOTH the Boston Red Sox AND the Chicago Cubs in the same post-season?

[Blitz]

108. What a play by Johnson!!!

Cowboy DOWN!!!

[FlashHarry]

110. See here!

[jus_the_facts]

112. STAAAAART SPREAAAADIN' THE NEWS........YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!

...I WANNA BE A PART OF IT....NEW YORK NEEEEEW YORK!!! :bounce:

:yourock: :loveya:

[Uzybone]

115. Boo -Ya

sucks to be a Red Sox fan dont it. Cowboy DOWN is right!!!....take your texas bred leaders' chant and stuff it.

[Blitz]

113. THE YANKEES WIN!!!

THEEEEE YANKEES WIN!!!!!

[MrBenchley]

129. And with their usual class

what a disgrace the Red Sox were tonite.

[VermontDem2004]

114. .....

:cry:

[Yavin4]

128. Cowboy This!

1918! 1918! 1918! 1918! 1918!
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