Fuck Valentines Day.

[Cyrano]

I mean, really. Why do we need a designated day on which we are supposed to go out and buy flowers and/or chocolate for our wives, girlfriends, etc.?

The most grotesque part of this ritual is that, if we forget to do it, we are sooo, sooo fucked and will never hear the end of it.

Who the hell linked up flowers, chocolate and love? We are such fucking sheep for buying into this crap, however, this particular sheep fully understands that, come Feb. 14, if I don't play along, I'll never get laid again.

We really need to reevaluate the rules of this planet and start over again.

[LisaM]

1. LOL! You should change your screen name then

since you've chosen one of the most romantic characters in all of fiction for your screen name, it seems curious that you connect love to "getting laid" on Valentine's Day!

Most woman I know will accept non-material offerings in place of chocolate and flowers, by the way.

[Cyrano]

3. LisaM. "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? "

as Shakespeare said, or would you prefer flowers that will die in a few days or chocolate that will be gone fairly soon?

Check out the above mentioned sonnet. I would prefer to give that than any purchased token. And I don't want society telling me on which date I have to give it.

[LisaM]

5. Actually, I agree with the sentiment of year-round love and poetry

in place of flowers and chocolate. I just have issues with your equating love with "getting laid" which sounds REALLY unromantic. Don't they say that 95% of love is intellectual or something?

[Cyrano]

6. Dear LisaM. 95% of love may be intellectual, however,

Roxanne once told me that it's the other 5% that makes her the happiest.

[Shakespeare]

7. Why can't we have BOTH?

Boy, you'd just HATE me. My husband and I were married last year--on Valentine's Day. The date was by mutual agreement, and has permanently made that day exponentially more special for us.

Even though I spent many Valentine's days alone over the years, I've still always loved the day and the sweetness it symbolizes. I readily acknowledge that the sweetness can be bittersweet if you're alone, but that doesn't mean it'll always be that way for you.

I love sincere sentiments such as the sonnet you reference, but I'm also a sucker for candy and flowers. And it's just as much fun to be the giver of same to my husband--I've never looked at it as a one-way kind of holiday.

[Bok_Tukalo]

23. "non-material offerings in place of chocolate and flowers"

In a previous relationship, I once wrote a rather clever limerick about how wonderful I thought my partner's bottom was. She left me with the impression she would have rather had chocolates or flowers.

[bettyellen]

24. Actually, a limerick is one of the nicest things I ever received.......

i was really touched.
but it wasn't all about my ass, and come to think of it, it wasn't valentines day either.

[Bok_Tukalo]

28. I thought I was being playfully romantic

Perhaps that's the problem. Men are very romantic but women have redefined the word to mean something totally different.

[bettyellen]

31. a limerick is in and of itself playful. just a hint guys,

ass is not romantic. sexy, yes. but not romantic.

[politicaholic]

2. I'm right there with you.

What happened to being romantic year round?

One would think that women were screwing themsleves with this deal.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. The most romantic man in the world

(to whom I happen to be married) refers to Valentine's Day as "that fucking pagan holiday."

People are such asses.

[Cyrano]

8. Just came across the other "Fuck Valentines Day" thread.

Sorry, didn't know the topic had been covered in such depth.

[LisaM]

9. Normally I just fix my SO his favorite dinner and get him cards

from me and from our dogs. I let him pick a favorite dinner and I cook it and we stay home.

About once every four years, he treats me to a really nice dinner out - not necessarily on the day itself.

[TexasSissy]

10. The day is ONLY for those who feel love. If you forget to celebrate it,

that is saying something. And so you shouldn't be celebrating it. Capische? There's nothing to celebrate.

If you ARE in love, you won't forget to celebrate it. I think that's why guys (and gals) get in trouble for forgetting it....it speaks volumes about how they really feel toward the other person.

As a female, I have never wanted anything for Valentine's Day from a guy that I didn't feel something for, and who didn't feel something for me. In fact, it has made me uncomfortable to get something from a guy who I didn't feel I was in a love relationship with.

Might be best to mention the subject ahead of time and come to an agreement about it. Upfront and personal is usually best. You may find she doesn't want anything from you.

[Cyrano]

11. After reading the feminine replies to this thread, I've decided that

George Bernard Shaw understood women better than any man who ever lived.

Try reading "Pygmalion," (which is "My Fair Lady"), "Man and Superman," "Major Barbara," or virtually any other play that he wrote.

After Shakespeare, Shaw is considered one of the greatest English language play writes. Most women will not agree with this which proves beyond a doubt that women are from Venus, men are from someplace where the terms "reason and logic" have meaning.

(Putting on my raincoat for the ten tons of irrational female "logic" coming my way.)

[Beaverhausen]

12. Gee, it's amazing you are alone on Valentines Day

with that lovely attitude. :eyes:

On edit: I re-read your original post and it looks like you may not be alone, you are just pissed that you have to make some sort of gesture toward your girlfriend/wife/whatever.

Is it really such a chore for you to take a little time and effort and show the woman you love that you are thinking about her?

I thank all the gods and goddesses that I am with a man who is a real romantic and doesn't think the way you do. He IS getting laid again.

[Cyrano]

13. What makes you think I'm alone? I'm merely the guest of honor at a stoning

[Shakespeare]

15. A stoning?

Gee, just a tad hyperbolic, aren't we?

I haven't seen anybody flaming you on this thread, so I'm not sure why you're all of a sudden some kind of victim....

[Shakespeare]

14. Wow, thanks for proclaiming our logic "irrational"

...before you even hear what we have to say. :eyes:

Way to go, professor Higgins.

[Cyrano]

17. Many is the time that I've gone with a woman to see a play or

ballet and ended up searching for a glove.

(With thanks to GBS.)

[Shakespeare]

20. Gee, condescend much?

And such assumptions....my, my, my.

[Ellen Forradalom]

34. It's simple

and I'll state it in words of one syllable for your E-Z comprehension:

We girls don't hang with those who loathe us. We like guys who like girls. True!

[LisaM]

16. Ha! Ha! Ha! We know that "Pygmalion" is "My Fair Lady"

but thanks for the condescension.

[Cyrano]

21. Dear LisaM. You're ability to spell condescension has impressed me.

At the moment, my tongue is planted so firmly in my cheek, I think it will be stuck there for months to come.

[LisaM]

22. Well thanks for making me mad at Shaw!

If you hate Valentine's Day this much, Sweetest Day must make you spit nails.

[bettyellen]

25. LOL,..If that's true, then your valentines day is just fucked!

[seabeyond]

18. being a female, i so agree with you

i have always hated valentines day, where some power that be's tells me i have to feel all romantic (not a personal trait for me) and lovey dovey and eeeewww

so, i have reduced it down to buying valentines balloons and candy for kids, lol lol and a card for hubby. he can forget all the time, adn still get laid, be it bday (which he has) anniversary, which i have a good 3-5 times, or any other manufactured sentimental days.

it is in no way indictive of our love for each other. it is how we treat each other every single day. we dont need a special day

[Arkana]

19. I'm with you on that one

I personally hate the sappiness of Valentine's Day. Maybe it's because I'm alone. I don't know--all I know is that I think it's disgusting.

[marigold20]

26. Worst bouquet ever!

I browbeat my SO into sending me flowers one year. He finally remembered to call the florist at 3 pm. The "flowers" were delivered by a poor, spent man at about 4 pm. They looked as if the florist swept the floor, stuck the bigger pieces into a big vase and said, deliver this #$%^&* whenever you feel like it. After the poor man left, I started laughing and decided I would never ask for flowers again!

[Patiod]

27. Why demand chocolate and flowers

when jewelry lasts so much longer.

Geez.

[Samurai_Writer]

29. I'm female and I HATE valentine's day...

and birthdays... and christmas... and pretty much all holidays that require gifts. Not that I'm stingy, I'm not. But I don't need a present from someone for me to know that they care about me. Most of the holidays are so commercialized if not downright created by advertisers/retailers to make money off people's emotions. UGH

Peace,
Bella

[Ellen Forradalom]

30. Aren't we embittered?

I think you've been hanging around with the wrong kind of gal. Certainly I don't recognize myself in your description. Keep looking.

[qnr]

32. Neither my wife, nor I, pay any attention to Valentines Day. Never have,

either of us, even before we met each other.

[HeeBGBz]

33. Doubt if I'll see any of that action...

[Liberal Christian]

35. Here's the deal

If Valentine's Day is important to your sweetheart, why wouldn't you want to give him or her pleasure by remembering it? Why wouldn't you want to lift up what you love about your sweetheart and let him or her know that?

It doesn't have to be flowers or chocolate, though if those are treats for your sweetie, they're nice. There are all kinds of ways to celebrate your relationship. Think of one.

If you're opposed to the commercialism of the day, find a non-commercial way to celebrate your relationship. Do something nice. Plan a picnic. Make a nice dinner. Give him/her a massage.

Here's the deal about St. Valentine's Day. Valentine was a priest who died on February 14, 269. He was a Christian martyr. When the Roman emperor banned marriage because it kept young men from enlisting in his army, Valentine continued to perform marriages in defiance of the law. Combine his work on behalf of lovers with the Roman pagan Feast of Lupercalia, which began on February 15, in which young men and women participated in a lottery to find their partners for the feast, and you have a couple of days in two religious traditions which celebrated marriage and relationships.

It's not just something invented by card companies. St. Valentine's Day has a long and storied history.

Celebrate the fact that you have someone to love and that you are able to express that love. You don't have to buy a card or chocolates or flowers ... get a nice piece of paper and in your nicest handwriting, write her the sweetest, most loving note you can think of ... thanking her for daring to love your sorry ass.

[benny05]

36. Hey Dude

I love the day. But I've learned to tone it down since my spouse is not as responsive as to what to give me for a love offering. I'll probably jump my spouse's bones, get a take-out before, and watch mindless tv, which is the spouse's preference. Generally, the spouse buys a better card for the occasion.

I've learned how my spouse loves me in other ways. Two years ago, I went away on a business trip, and I noticed our Benson was not exactly himself. Spouse also finally noticed, took Benson to the vet, who referred our boy to the Vet hospital. Spouse took pictures of caregivers (we paid) and Benson to me on Internet because I was worried. Great pics. That's love...not on Valentine's Day, but on another day, when I needed it most.