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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 AM
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I'm a HUGE Republican
I believe it's time for Northern Ireland to go back to the Republic of Ireland. The Irish deserve Ireland... ALL of it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 AM
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1. hah me too
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 AM
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2. Good bait thread
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gfr4656 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:16 AM
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3. it's MY island
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 12:17 AM by gfr4656
do you need to go on a diet?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:23 AM
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5. I think they should give it back
Northern Ireland to the Brits IMO is like the last remains of a once powerful empire that the sun never set down on.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:18 AM
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4. Well, as long as you have a big one without being a big one,
I'll go out with you.

:bounce: :party:
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:34 AM
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6. HA!
I'm happily taken. Just celebrated my 1st anniversary with my girlfriend yesterday!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:34 AM
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7. Congrats!
:thumbsup:
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:45 AM
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8. Me too...
I look forward to the day when the free citizens of the Republic of Canada no longer need tug their forelocks to the talentless scions of an obscure and degenerate branch of the German aristocracy!

:toast:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:59 AM
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9. Sinn Fein "We Ourselves"
Yeah, I'm a hardcore Republican and I'm not even Irish! 100% Indian

Bush hates countries that start with Ira: Iraq, Iran, maybe Gerry Adams should agree to disarm! :silly:



"Liberate our minds by any means necessary" - Malcolm X
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:03 AM
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12. Hey good for ya man
Yer honorably Irish for now on. Just add Mc to your last name :).
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:18 AM
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18. McIronLionZion reporting for duty
:toast:
cheers
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:20 AM
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22. Or O'
:toast: My Irish last name is Keown and they came from County Galway.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:27 AM
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25. Dammit, am I the only American with NO Irish ancestry?
It sure seems like it, especially on St. Patrick's Day when drunks start toasting the olde country or whatever. I'm solidly German and Dutch.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:28 AM
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27. No youre not
My mom's parents are first generation Slovak and Slovene Americans with no Ireland in them.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:01 AM
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10. Has anyone seen Bloody Sunday?
http://tinyurl.com/4l8dr

It's pretty interesting. It shows the confusion during the day.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:02 AM
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11. Yes
I own it, it makes me so mad.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:03 AM
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13. I believe that the Northern Irish should vote on the issue
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 01:03 AM by JVS
And follow the results of the voting
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:13 AM
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14. hmm...sounds fair
you have to do something to control voter intimidation though. There's still some violence even now.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:15 AM
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15. yes right
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:16 AM
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16. It appears they are split into thirds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland#Demographics_and_politics

roughly 1/3 unionist bastards, 1/3 nationalist patriots, and 1/3 with their heads up their asses
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:18 AM
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19. yer bound to see more protestant nationalists than catholic unionists
Just an observation, many promiennt Irish nationalists have been Protestants. Its not just about religion, its about class too.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:28 AM
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26. 1% vs 0%, not that big a difference
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:29 AM
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28. Thats one poll, you think that represents everything? c'mon
If we were to rely exclusively on polling, Dewey beats Truman, Landon beats Roosevelt.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:33 AM
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34. I see no reason to believe that it is incorrect or that there is a large..
number of Protestants that support the Nationalists.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:41 AM
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38. I know, I just dont think one poll will give us the true results of what
people think.
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gfr4656 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:19 AM
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20. doesn't that sound eerily like us(usa)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:20 AM
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23. It does
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:23 AM
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24. Unionists are 38%, Nationalists 24%, the Unionists win
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 01:28 AM by JVS
I can understand why 35% don't really care. As both countries seem bound for the EU, the issues appears to be growing less important.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:30 AM
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29. and undecideds would be pounced upon like hyenas on a carcass
just like here
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:32 AM
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32. Is that poll really valid for everything?
I dont know, I just dont see how 1% of Protestants can be Nationalists when there have been so many nationalist protestants such as Ivan Cooper, the Parliament MP behind the bloody sunday march.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:35 AM
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35. The same way that there can be Black leaders within the GOP
like Keyes, Rice, Thomas (technically unaffiliated but we all know the score), or Powell.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:40 AM
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36. Thats true, I just think the number is higher than 1%
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:41 AM
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37. I've talked to two people who really care about this issue
I don't care too much about it, but I do think it should be kept peaceful.

One was a 60 some year old socialist from London, the other a history prof in the US, and both said the same thing. Unionists would win because although a majority of Catholics would vote for becoming part of Ireland, the Protestants would vote against it because they don't see themselves as Irish and that a sizable group of Catholics would also vote against it because they would see it as being to their advantage (for instance Ireland has tougher abortion laws, and so on)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:18 AM
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17. i met bernadette devlin mc alisky...
she said "coffee, it's the one thing you americans do right!"
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:19 AM
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21. you did!?!?
I envy you, she's so cool, I felt so bad when I read the bastards here deported her. She's way cool, one of the coolest grandmothers out there :).
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:44 AM
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39. yes, and i freaked her out by emerging from behind a shrub!!
because, you know, she had been ambushed before and i kind of snuck up on her.
i did sound on a documentary about human rights abuses in NI. nt many people saw it, but it was an amazing month for me working on it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:47 AM
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40. Thats cool
not so cool that you snuck up on her though :D. Many people I think its just about religion over there, its not really, a lot is about class too.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:54 AM
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41. power + $$$$ is always the real reason
they just convince the poor ghetto people to blame and hate each other because they're in a fucked situation.
who really put them in a fucked situation? the rich guy over there whose kids are not throwing bombs or joining the army. they're too smart for that shit.
it's called keeping croppy down.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:30 AM
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30. EEEWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!
How could you curse this board with such words !?!?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:31 AM
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31. its not a bad thing
hell I would be a republican during the spanish civil war too.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:02 AM
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42. My ancestors, and some current relatives are there.
All want Ireland to be seperate.... but seeing Repuke and Ireland together just, well..... reeks.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:33 AM
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33. edit nm
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 01:40 AM by JohnKleeb
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