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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:45 PM
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Pls Help! Who has late 70's/ early 80's edition of Joy of Cooking??
I am desperate for this butter cookie recipe that was taken out of the later editions. It was called Butter or Almond cookie Cockiange- which is their weird little designation for the best of the best.
I know the main little variation waas to cover w/ sliced almonds.
And they took out the recipe the same time they took out how to cook a racoon and put in some healthier fare. I know it was still in there in the late 70's editions.
Anybody? Damn they are the best cookie ever!
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:48 PM
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1. I have it
Which one do you want--almond crescents, almond meringue rings, or almond pretzels?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:54 PM
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3. Maybe it's just butter cookie- it has the cockiange in the name for sure
and then it may have the slices almonds among others as variations.
The dough it so soft you have to spread it or shoot it out. It's not a roll or drop cookie.
does that help?
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:01 PM
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8. The Cockaigne recipes
from the 1975 edition:

Brownies Cockaigne
Christmas chocolate bars Cockaigne
Date bars Cockaigne
Molasses crisps Cockaigne

That's it. That's all there are. I've been baking from this book since sometime in the 60s and I don't remember this recipe at all. Is it a spritz cookie?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:05 PM
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12. I think you can spritz it, or otherwise , you smear a thin layer of it w/
a spoon. does it sound like the thins or the wafers to you? It was butter, white sugar, flour. I don't think there was anything else. And a warning about how quick they can burn.
tks for looking!! I have been looking for an old copy of Joy for a while because of these!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:53 PM
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2. Not in my 1974 paperback version n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:56 PM
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4. I've a '74 edition.
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 05:59 PM by stellanoir
In the index, the following are listed under cookies:

almond meringue rings
almond pretzels or Mandelplsettchen
butter thins
butter wafers
butterless drop
butterscotch nut
butterscotch refrigerator

Those are the only listings that refer to almonds or butter. Doesn't sound like what you're looking for but let me know if any of those ring any bells.

Good luck on your search.

Maybe try posting in the cooking forum in the DU Forum section.

on edit- just noticed you might not be able to post over there. I'll do it for you with a link to this post.

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:59 PM
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7. it could be butter wafers or thins ....... do they recommend sprinkling
them with almond slice?. because they are very thin cookies. I remeber they warn you that they shldn't get too brown around edges or they'll burn.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:04 PM
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11. The butter wafers are very thin
but don't mention almonds. Do you want the recipe?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:07 PM
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15. sure, i bought the flour and sugar! Thanks!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:08 PM
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16. No mention of almonds
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 06:11 PM by stellanoir
in either the wafers or thins recipes. I posted your request in the Cooking and Baking forum. I'll post the link in a second.

here. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=236&topic_id=1286&mesg_id=1286
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:14 PM
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31. I have 1984
Butter drop cookies. Doesn't sound like that's what you want.

For used books try www.abebooks.com
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:17 PM
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32. do the butter thins have eggs? - i don't think they had eggs
so i'm thinking now it's the thins. hmmm. i was wrong about the cociange label, i think.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:03 PM
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39. It's the same recipe someone posted here for butter drop cookies eom
eom
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:13 PM
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20. Wow! Thank you. I didn't even know there was a cooking forum.
I have tried this request on many other cooking sites and zip, nothing. People around here are so darned nice and helpful!!
Thanks so much!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:23 PM
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21. You're welcome
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 06:38 PM by stellanoir
The specific forums were only initiated over the past couple weeks. The beauty of them is they move a lot slower than GD or the lounge so they can remain on the front page for days if not weeks. Keep checking on that link I provided above if you have no success on this thread.

Someone is bound to respond eventually over there.

Happy baking !
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:57 PM
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5. I will go check nt
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:57 PM
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6. This poor old book
All the pages are yellow some are torn out but still all there ;-)

There is a recipe for an Almond Mandelplaettchen that looks very buttery and is topped with almonds.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:01 PM
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10. nope, but it might be those thins those. they are wafer thin all right!
and the recipe is a lot of butter flour, and just white sugar . Really simple but yummy.
Trying to bake something impressive for the nephews birthday.
tks for trying!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:01 PM
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9. All I Have Is The Better Homes And Gardens Cookbook (Plaid Cover)...
10th edition, from 1989. --- It's served me well.

Good luck with your search!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:05 PM
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13. 82 edition
the only cookies cockaigne are brownies, chistmas chocolate bars, date bars, and molasses crisps


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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:09 PM
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17. I might be brain dead, ot that's an older version. Mine had to be 78 or so
Maybe I just thought they shld be "cockiange" because people would go crazy for them.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:06 PM
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14. 1967 edition has Molasses Crisps Cockaigne
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 06:10 PM by starroute
See if this looks like it:

Molasses Crisps Cockaigne
About 6 Dozen 2 x 3 Inch Cookies

Heat to the boiling point over hot water:
1/2 cup dark molasses

Remove from heat, add and beat until blended:
1/4 cup sugar
6 tablespoons butter
1 tablespoon milk
2 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon double-acting baking powder
1/2 teaspoon each fresh ground nutmeg and cloves
2 teaspoons cinnamon

Wrap in foil and cool until firm. To form, slice very thin and, if necessary, pat thin on tin with fingers until they are translucent. Press into the center of each:
1/2 a pecan or blanched almond.

Preheat oven to 325 degrees and bake for 10 to 12 minutes on greased cookie sheets.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:09 PM
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18. They sound good too! I'm saving that one for Xmas! Thank you!
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:11 PM
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19. Drop butter wafers
About Forty-Eight 2 1/4-inch wafers

These, when baked, automatically product a lovely paper-thin brown rim.

Preheat oven to 375°

Cream until light:
1/2 cup butter
1/3 cup sugar

Beat in:
1 egg
1 teaspoon vanilla
1/4 teaspoon grated lemon rind

Add:
3/4 cup sifted cake flour
(1 1/2 tablespoons poppyseed or 1 teaspoon grated orange rind)

Drop the cookies from a teaspoon well apart on a greased cookie sheet. Bake about 7 minutes or until the rims brown.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:38 PM
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22. you might try
the baking forum that King Arthur Flour has on their web page. Those people have been very helpful to me in the past. Good luck. I am not at home, so I don't have the link but you can Google.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:43 PM
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23. good idea, i haven't been there in a while. omigosh i will end up
buying stuff then. but i'm thinking i am mostly baking instead of shopping this year!
thanks!
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:31 PM
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24. Any luck at King Arthur?
I used to order a lot from them until I discovered our local Mennonite store is just jam packed with all kinds of great baking supplies. Now when I need pastry flour or something I go there.

By the way, that old edition of Joy is still available in a ring-bound paperback format. I looked on Amazon but they weren't real clear on which edition was which so I recommend going to your local book store. Even if you don't buy the book, you can leaf through the cookie section and see if anything rings a bell.
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exsoccermom Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:03 PM
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28. The 1967 edition has Almond Leaves
1/2 lb. almond paste (1 cup)
2 egg whites
1 tablespoon water
3/4 cup xx sugar
1/4 cup cake flour

(these sound good but are not close to what you asked for).

Their Tea Wafers sound closer:
1/2 c. butter
1 c. xx sugar
1 t. vanilla
1 3/4 cups flour
1/2 c. milk

you spread 2 T of batter on chilled buttered cookie sheet and sprinkle on nut meats, sugar, etc. and press them in. If this is it, I can type in the full instructions.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:19 PM
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33. omigod i think that's it ! tea wafers!! that sounds right ....
i knew there were no eggs....
i am so sure this si it oh gosh! thanks!
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:36 PM
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37. Omigosh I wanted to buy so much stuff... I had to walk away from the
computer because the whole point was to save money! I think I'm going to look into some great deep chocolate cake recipes too.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:39 PM
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38. and i'm pretty sure it's the tea thins .. the ingredients sound right .
someone posted ingredients- i have to try and remember when the milk comes in and I am all set.
Thanks so much, Spin! I am going to go buy the big bag of almonds that's on sale now!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:42 PM
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25. Good source for used books is ALibris, found at
(you guessed it) http://www.alibris.com.

When do we all get to sample, hmmm???

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:26 PM
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35. TEA WAFERS for everybody!! You guys are sooo nice!!
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:52 PM
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26. My mom was an edition from 1963
Did you find the recipe yet? PM me if you still need it. :hi:

As a side note, when my parents were first married, they used to amuse each other by reading the raccoon/possum recipes to each other (they couldn't afford a TV). I have to admit, some of those are pretty damn funny. :D
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:00 PM
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27. Joy didn't change much for 40 years or so
Then in 1997 it got a major overhaul. I keep both the older and the newer versions around.

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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:04 PM
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29. I have an edition from the early '90s when I got married
And I bought the new one when it came out.

Have you ever read the biography of Joy's authors? It's called Stand Facing the Stove and it's really quite good. Fascinating, to say the least. :hi:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:28 PM
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36. I think I screwed up and it's the tea wafers!! How could I forget that?!?
I am getting ols and haven't made them in 20+ years!
They are yummy! I'm soo excited.
Thanks for your help!!
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:13 PM
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30. I have
January, 1973. Did someone already find the recipe?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:23 PM
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34. i think i got the name wrong and it's tea wafers!
somebody is sending me that recipe.
thanks for your help... everybody here has been so nice !
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:37 PM
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40. "how to cook a raccoon" is back in!
I have a paperback edition from 1997, and they have muskrat and possum as well, in the "game" section.

Glad you found the recipe, though! I think the name "cockiange" is from a folk myth about a fictional land where delicious food abounded?
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