I need suggestions on how to deal with GLOATING Freeper relatives.

[MikeG]

That I have to put up with tomorrow.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

1. Im glad over 1,200 dead americans

is something that makes you so proud

[snacker]

2. Stay home

[MikeG]

6. There is TURKEY there.

[skooooo]

3. Tell them to STFU

I've decided that I'm not putting up with any crap from freeper relatives. If it causes a row, it causes a row.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Get high on weed.

You won't care!

:hippie:

[Nevernose]

5. Excluding physical violence?

'Cuz if your excluding physical violence, I have no idea how to help you.

[ret5hd]

7. bring military enlistment forms...then tell 'em to STFU.

[stray cat]

17. Bush is asking his supporters to really support his agenda and the troops.

He is asking them to enlist and help spread his version of freedom throughout the globe. Good idea. Bring enlistment forms or a fake letter from Bush to his faithful supporters.

[shoelace414]

8. I could easily refute all these talking points

but since you won't listen, I decided so keep quiet.

[teach1st]

9. Two words...

Richard Nixon.

He had a real landslide in 1972 and was not nearly as crooked. Of course, he wasn't as incompetent, either.

Anyway, we have Bush's downfall to look forward to.

[ClassWarrior]

10. Some Thanksgiving Help from the Rockridge Institute (a recent email)

How to Respond to Conservatives

We at the Rockridge Institute wish all of our friends a happy Thanksgiving holiday. To help you through those sometimes difficult family conversations, we're posting for download a chapter from George Lakoff's recent book, Don't Think of an Elephant!: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate. See our website for Chapter 10, "How to Respond to Conservatives" (http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/research/lakoff/howtorespond) and try out those tips and approaches with family members and guests you'd like to enlighten.

Then, please send us a post-Thanksgiving email ([email protected]) and let us know how it went, and share any wisdom you may have discovered for communicating with conservatives. We'll compile and publish the best ones on our web site (with your permission, of course).

NGU.

[da_chimperor]

11. Smile sweetly and tell them they won't be so smug in a few years

Once the US economy breaks down thanks to bu$hco's huge deficit.

[w4rma]

16. If you tell them that, don't smile. Look at them with anger in your eyes

instead. This is our country too.

[Guaranteed]

19. I agree. It's not about being right. It's about

our country being destroyed.

[da_chimperor]

23. I find acting nice and polite when people are trying to piss you off

pisses them off.

[w4rma]

27. Are you sure they aren't pissed off that they think you are happy the

economy will be destroyed? You can't let them think that and smiling about it *will* be misinterpreted.

[da_chimperor]

41. I've only used this strategy during my customer service job.

Didn't really think about them misinterpreting it. In any case, if they did that would give me a good excuse to hit them for being dense at the least.

[Guaranteed]

12. Just bring an axe with you and fondle it lovingly in front

of them. :)

[stray cat]

13. Shooting them probably isn't a good idea.

Act upbeat that now you get to blame them for any economic struggles, wars or new terrorist attacks. Lucky them, they will probably get everything they asked for. In the meantime, you warned them and you are without fault for the consequences.

Maybe they could also give you some money since they seem to think they are so well off with Bush. Its worth a shot.

[pagerbear]

14. Deny them the privilege of your company

[Donkeyboy75]

15. Nothing.

But in two years you can laugh your ass off at them when they are no longer gloating.

[tigereye]

36. yes our time will come

or you could wear that Impeach Bush button someone posted a while back.

[kcwayne]

18. Collect a notebook of injured and dead Iraqi "insurgents"

who are babies, elderly, women, and children, and tell them that the relatives and friends of these people that are being written off by the values crowd as "collateral damage" will want revenge. And we are talking about hundreds of thousands if not millions of woefully wronged people.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Sanity Claws]

20. Smile and

Tell them it's not over yet and smile again, like a Cheshire cat.
You can also bring the paper along and read about the great grandmother who enlisted, the 50+ year old Vietnam vet who was called up for active service. You might want to suggest that they join them.
You can also tell them about the recounts going on.

At some point you might to talk about Nixon.

[revree]

21. KILL 'EM WITH KINDNESS

I tried it on mine and it works, especially being really nice and loving to them, because,after all, these miserable idiots deserve our deepest pity, don't they?

KILL 'EM WITH KINDNESS.

[MikeG]

31. I've been kind. Hasn't killed them yet.

[Niche]

22. Have told father freep that it is no longer a debate...

Have finally stopped tolerating my family's Bush support. And "there is blood on your hands, I don't forgive you" They have gotten quiet lately. Guess that doesn't help you tomorrow. Can you decline the entire event. Guess that would make them think and know that you are serious.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

24. Wear a cryptic smile and say "Wait and see."

Even if you have to repeat it 10,000 times during the evening. By the 50th time, they'll want to talk about anything BUT politics!

[w4rma]

30. That's the worst most flippant advice ever.

To sit there blankly and smile like you're some sort of crazy person who may be happy that the nation is going to heck on a silver platter.

[s-cubed]

25. Don't get mad - they love it

I've dealt a lot with this type of asshole. They want you to get mad, so you keep your cool and bait them a bit.. As them what they, as loyal Americans, are going to do about all the voting irregularities: suppression, intimidation, registration scans, registration problems at polls, etc. Don't give them too much about the fraud, or they'll jump all over you. Just stick to the other stuff, and see what you get. Try to plant doubt in their minds. Good luck.

[Padraig18]

26. I assume neither 'STFU!' or violence are options?

I will pray for you...

:hug:

[flordehinojos]

28. are your relatives gloating in silence and having an all too revealing

gleam in their eyes? I ask because I've a cousin who said to me, "OUT OF RESPECT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED A WORD TO YOU BECAUSE I FEEL YOUR LOSS. I ASK THE SAME FROM YOU..." and a friend who, with a weird gleam in his eyes, the day after the elections asked, "HOW ARE YOU? ARE YOU DOING OKAY?" to both of whom, I say, BULLSHIT.

My cousin does not feel my pain because she would have otherwise said something about it which could have opened her up for dialogue between the two of us as to the realities of a second Bush term.

No. My cousin's silence comes more from a silent inner gloating, as in "I told you before the elections that 'we will see who wins' and now, with my silence,bush's win becomes all the more a powerful echo in your soul carrying the news that bush won! bush won! bush won!...

And to my friend, I equally say, BULLSHIT! because what seems to come through his eyes, is not the care and concern of a friend wondering how I am handling bush's win, but it is the fire of gloating that which all too plainly comes through and which says, "all of your crazy progressivism, activism, letter writing etc. could not get ride of bush... now we have him for four more years, how do you like them balls?" He too, with his sick "are you okay" has closed-off any dialogue between the two of us about the realities of bush's re-selection!

Now, IF YOUR RELATIVES ARE GLOATING BY MAKING REAL STATEMENTS TO YOU AS TO HOW WONDERFUL IT IS THAT BUSH GOT RE-SELECTED, THEN THANK THEM FOR THEIR STATEMENT, ASK THEM FOR EQUAL TIME, TELL THEM THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PICK A FIGHT, THAT YOU JUST WANT TO DIALOGUE WITH THEIR REASONING POWER TO WHICH YOU WANT TO FEED JUST A FEW FACTS ... AND FEED THEM SOME FACTS.......LEAVE OUT ANY EMOTIONALITY OUT OF THE DIALOGUE. THEY MAY LISTEN...

But if your relatives are gloating through their fake silences or the gleam in their eyes...then you have my sincere condolences because there is very little you can do.

[Carson]

29. What if the situation were reversed? How should your relatives

handle you?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or rude; I'm serious.

[MikeG]

33. I easy to handle. Just say something nice about Clinton.

[Carson]

37. lol

My point is, would you want your relatives to go postal on you, if you brought up the fact Kerry had won?

Some of the replies you've received are too hostile for my tastes. This is your family we're talking about.

Anyway, best of luck and have a happy holiday.

[whalerider55]

32. some ideas

paste a "support our troops ribbon" on the turkey- at least the turkey is being served dressed appropriately.

spring one of those "bombs away" drills on them- herd everyone into the basement, tell them to sit down and put their heads b/t their legs. when the laugh nervously, tell them "you must not have heard about the Executive Order released just before Thanksgiving.

tell them a story about a local school committee that jnust passed a policy allowing any indicted department head to keep their job without any suspension, even if the indictment is a felony indictment- like drug dealing, or a & b...

bring out the biggest turkey anyone has ever seen, only have it be plastic and don't let any of the eat it. offer to let them pose for pictures with it.

pre-arrange with a friend to call you during the dinner. pretend you are talking to Newt Gingrich. Loudly tell faux Newt that you won't be talked out of rescinding your invitation to Thanksgiving, because of the widely reported incident durting the impeachment proceedings that he was shtupping his scretary on his office desk. Tell him to put Dick CHeney on the phone. Wait about five seconds, get a surprised look and your face, and say "well, go F yourself too, Mr. Vice President."

Tell everyone that you've decided to name the turkey Colin Powell.

Tell everyone you have a thanksgiving reading. read the COntract on AMerica to them. Have one of your kids ask them for equal time. Have them read any fifty pages from the Greg Palast book. And no food until the readings are done.

have a tantrum and throw the food at them.

sit down to dinner naked, and tell them you haven't felt the same since the election.

Fingerprint every relative as they enter. tell them it is for security reasons.

Place a greasy piece of salami in the seat of every freeper relative. They'll be so busy gloating they won't notice until they start feeling funny.

Finally, start the dinner with a Mickey Finn-Ex-Lax cocktail to celebrate the ascension of *. heavy on the ex-lax, heavy. ABout mid-dinner, casually tell them about a fundie website you read in which some wacked out preacher thinks that the election of * indicates the beginning of armageddon, and that the first plague will be diarreah. Oh, really short the bathrooms on toilet paper.

phew. well, i feel better.

happy thanksgiving. and just remember- * will also be surrounded by gloating freepers.

whalerider55

[MostlyLurks]

34. Say the following:

"You know what? This is my holiday too, my time away from work to enjoy the company of my family and relax for a few days. I've taken this time away from my usual routine of performing abortions at gay weddings to be here with you in the spirit of familial unity and harmonic convergence for a greater good, that of remembrance of and reflection upon our blessings. Belssings we all share. Belssings we all share - as liberals and conservatives, as Democrats and Republicans, as Americans. So, please cease politicizing this American Thanksgiving and pass the fucking cranberry sauce, mom".

Sorry, I may be projecting a little bit there.

[whalerider55]

35. take MostlyLurks advice

i like it better than mine.


good one. clear. powerful. succinct. a non-nuanced message that can be easily understood by any footloose and gamboling sheep in the neighborhood.

whalerider55

[EC]

38. Tell them

That you are really happy to have the family together because you believe it's time to have a family meeting to discuss plans for when the economy tanks. Will there be enough real, liquid cash in the family to combine, so there will at least be a roof over all your heads, and land to grow food. Who has the survival skills to do gardening, canning and sewing?

[CO Liberal]

39. I Intend To Remind My Retired In-Laws...

...that if things continue they way they have and their savings continue to diminish and their Social Security benefits get cut, they may have to come out of retirement and go back to work. Only there are no jobs, beacuse all of Bush's supporters outsourced them to india.

[underpants]

40. *(to men) I guess you don't mind being lied to

and being treated like a b**ch huh why don't youjust go ahead and bend over

(to women) say the same thing

[denverbill]

42. Reprint this.

http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=55356

And say "thanks for destroying our future".