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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:37 AM
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Are there ANY rural areas in this country that are liberal...
and aren't under a ton of snow each winter? Why oh why do the warm states have to be red?

Anyone have any suggestions?

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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:38 AM
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1. Fire ants drive all of them nuts, so they vote republican.
:shrug:
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:42 AM
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2. Yes
Northern NY, Maine, Massachussetts and Vermont.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:44 AM
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6. Hi gorbal!
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:35 AM
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26. you may be on to something.. check out these pics
Wouldn't they drive you crazy too?



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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:43 AM
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3. Vermont and Western Massachusetts, also some parts of
upstate New York and Western Pennsylvania. Mostly in the east, but there are pockets throughout the country, like Nederland and Crestone, CO.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:43 AM
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4. I'd guess Humboldt County, CA
but their crops are, well, you know.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:06 AM
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19. A war zone, xenophobic and awash in meth and pot
basically a 50/50 zone and a prison industrial complex, corrupt politically and hypersensitive to their "reputation".

Bogus.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:21 AM
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22. and Mendo
Find the areas that the old hippies moved to.
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:43 AM
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5. couple acres around
my house in rural PA.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:50 AM
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10. Yes I'm in Western MA
In Western MA half the farms belong to counter cultural folk, and the other half are friends of counter-cultural folk.

Bus has planted a meme in my brain-I keep saying "folk" now.

Nice to meet you to intheflow.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:53 AM
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13. an interview the other day had some guy talking about "folks enjoying
folk art; we want the folks to be interested in their folklore" - and he wasn't joking. I was going insane. Never liked the word anyway, and now that Dubya has abused it I can't tolerate it. ARGH!
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:46 AM
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7. My area's pretty liberal
I live in Silver City (pop. 10,000), which is in southwest New Mexico, and our county went to Kerry ,54-46. The town is %50 white, %50 Hispanic. There aren't too many knuckledraggers her either. Sure, we have our share of rednecks and cowboys, but we also have a great art scene and plenty of coffee houses. The green party here is pretty strong and we also have an active Buddhist community. I love this place.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:50 AM
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9. Sounds like a great place to live
Miles better then the crime infested dump I live in.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:56 AM
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15. sounds lovely.
but not to be a weirdo -- what's your water situation like? I have an aunt up north in Abiquiu, and they are concerned about drought. An art scene and coffee houses sounds blissful.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:00 AM
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18. So far no water limits have been imposed
if that's what you mean. We're kind of up in the mountains so our aquifers are usually pretty full, but we've been getting less rain than usual so, who knows what will happen in a few years or decades.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:47 AM
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8. oy! I was raised near Palm Springs!
I enjoy snow, but from inside a warm cabin watching the snow fall, not trudging around in it trying to get the car out of a snowbank (lived in NVa for the last 4 years and never really enjoyed the sensation of hitting black ice on the road...).

Bugger. California is now soooo expensive or else I'd go back home.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:52 AM
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11. Douglas County, Kansas
we went 57% Kerry. We've got new Dem county officers and several new Dems at the state level.

Of course, tonight of all nights, it is trying to snow here.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:53 AM
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12. Oregon is beautiful!
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:55 AM
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14. I remember when I went to Oregon
You have every type of weather and every type of person there.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:58 AM
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16. Maybe Liberal, Kansas?
:shrug:

It's a real town, too.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:58 AM
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17. Cuz the repukes are full of hot air?? n/t
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zelda7743 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:17 AM
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20. Come to Hawaii
The outer islands are rural. It's a tad cold right now, though. Our lows have been in the upper 60s.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:21 AM
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21. Any Indian reservation
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:34 AM
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23. southwest virginia
i dunno why, but even today, they have one of the 3 dems in congress from our state.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:48 AM
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24. Areas around college towns
Ithaca, New York comes to mind.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:20 AM
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25. The Iron Range of northeastern Minnesota.
All predominantly Dem. In fact, it was the only part of the United States during the Cold War where you could openly be a Communist and not have any public scorn or retaliation because of it. The Communist Party of the United States was headquartered in one of the towns there, I think.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:42 AM
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28. "and aren't under a ton of snow each winter"
doesn't pass the test
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:57 AM
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31. How about all the Indian rez's in the Southwest???
I think they go heavily Democratic, don't they???
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:37 AM
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27. What about New Paltz, New York?
The mayor was doing gay marriages....

And California can be warm...
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:08 AM
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29. Well sadly, some of us are under lots of snow but STILL in the red.
:grr:

I do agree w/you that this is pretty much a rural/urban thing. Maine is considered a "Blue State" ONLY because the majority of our 1.2 million population base IS mostly urban. (In the southern and coastal areas)

But those of us who live rural, REALLY live in the boonies.The county I live in has a pop. of approx. 1.2 people per/sq mile. And wouldn'tcha know it... we were RED when CNN showed a breakdown by county. :-(

Interestingly, there was pretty much a patchwork across the country when they broke it down by counties which seems to adhere to your theory Flaxbee. I don't think there are many rural "blue" counties sorry to say.

One suggestion I would have is to make access to a college education more attainable- perhaps through State Sponsored long distance learning.

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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:45 AM
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30. rural ohio
still voted puke, BUT, i almost shit myself when i came home from college, and saw all the kerry signs in farmers' yards


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