The Day After Tomorrow...

[rabid_nerd]

I finally saw The Day After Tomorrow last night...

Now this is not funny to see today...

The Arctic is Warming Twice as Fast as the Rest of the Planet
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x969317

Climate Breakdown "Will Redraw Map Of The World" - Independent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x16297

Bush Advisor Claims Climate Change Conspiracy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x969391

[nickinSTL]

1. Yeah, I saw it last week

I know the science in it is...well, mostly fiction, but does anyone have a link to a good site which describes what is expected to really happen, climate-wise in the near future due to global warming?

For instance, the sea levels are expected to rise, but how long is it expected to take? Are there projection maps of how coastlines will change?

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Abrupt Climate Change sources

Robert Gagosian's crew at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is at the forefront: http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/currenttopics/ct_abruptclimate.htm

Wallace Broecker, who first theorized about rapid re-glaciation as a result of oceanic thermohaline disturbance, is at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. Most of his stuff is on other websites, though, so you'll have to use Google with the keywords Broecker oceanic thermohaline climate. Interesting factoid: His granddaughter is an active DUer and quite proud of her grandpa.

There are a lot of government-sponsored groups popping up, too, but they are a few years behind right now. Give them another year or so.

William Calvin's The Great Climate Flip-Flop used to be on the Atlantic Monthly's website, but they put it behind a profit wall. However, it may be archived elsewhere if you look around.

--bkl

[jus_the_facts]

2. yeah....Mother Earth is gonna give us ALL an attitude adjustment....

:nopity:

[Dogmudgeon]

3. Half and Half

Everything in The Day After Tomorrow is plausable -- but not all at once!

Cyclonic polar storms -- well-established but uncommon
Super-cold downdrafts -- observed dozens of times
Storm surges -- common with hurricanes and tropical storms
Quick glaciation -- now demonstrated to be real (but probably takes longer than a month!)
Atavism in stressed domestic animals -- observed in cats and dogs alike
Intelligent tornadoes that hate Hollywood -- possibly GOP
Pretty girls falling for geeks -- very rare, but it does happen

I agree though, the news is getting spookier. And it looks like it will be an early, snowy winter for most of the East Coast.

It's a pretty good movie, but it has its flaws. The scientific works are scattered across the "Internets". Good hunting!

--bkl

[rabid_nerd]

6. As a NWS sky spotter...

And weather geek (although I bow to real weather guys)..

I do know better...

But the co-inki-dink of watching the movie last night and seeing these posts this morning are unnerving...

[CabalPowered]

5. Take a look at the anomaly map...

12-18 degree increase in the last 90 days, based over historical data...

Not good at all..

[Dogmudgeon]

7. The Seawater Surface analomalies are even more intense

There are parts of the Arctic that still have Summertime ocean temperatures (although that will change very quickly now).

These changes fit very well into the Abrupt Climate Change scenario; even Art Bell and Whitley Strieber got them correct in The Coming Global Superstorm.

I'm under no illusions that such a dramatic scenario would take place, but a switchover into a little ice age over a five or ten year period would be a serious problem.

--bkl

[radwriter0555]

8. But, but the bush regime would NEVER lie to us! Would they? Gee, maybe

pollution really IS good for us, and those toxins that infiltrate our bodies really aren't causing a massive cancer epidemic!

Bush would NEVER lie to us granpa!!!!

[radwriter0555]

9. I'll tell you what I see.. I've lived in LA for 20 years.. and we used to

have SUMMER here.

We haven't had one in 7 years. The periods of hot days are far less than ever, the winters range from drastic to non-existent.

This was the coolest summer on record with temps in mid city only going over 100 once.

Winter started earlier than ever... with rain in October. That's never happened.

[CornField]

10. Watched it a few weeks ago -- still not able to get warm enough.

I think this is a movie I should have watched in June or July... not October in Iowa.