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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:38 PM
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What's with all the religious posts lately?
Are we being invaded by the christian right?

Average DU user: :)
Average DU user as viewed by the christian right: :evilgrin:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:41 PM
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1. Believers are not allowed on here now? Thanks for the heads up.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:42 PM
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2. It's Sunday, the Lord's Day, you effing heathen basstid
Get your ass to church, or you'll be the Antichrist's butt boy after the Rapture happens.

--bkl

For the humo(u)r impaired: :)
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Diana52 Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:43 PM
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3. Why
did God let all those people die on 9/11? Was he also at the Crawford Ranch that week?

Don't EVEN get me started!
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:44 PM
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4. No by the progressives who believe
And are trying to convince the non believing progressives that we deserve the same support as the non believing RW gives to the fundies.
Our values are the same but too often the non believing progressives blow us off to keep face in there faith of non belief.
Does that make sense?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:25 PM
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13. You don't want the same kind of "support" the non believing RW gives...
... to believers.

That is the same kind of support Napoleon gave the sheep in Animal Farm.

It's not support, it's exploitation.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:38 PM
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15. Assets can not be exploited?
For some moral reason?
that our only counter against the RW fundies is just to say they are being exploited?
While the progressive side ripes at the progressives that do believe and cold present an opposing view to the fundies, and dismisses them as no better the n the fundies themselves because they are so foolish to believe in something that cannot be true?
Oh yes that sounds smart to me. Set a litmus test for who can be a progressive, that is one who must not believe in God.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:45 PM
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5. No, there are liberal Christians out there
There are Liberal/Progressive Christians out there. The Religious Right does NOT have a monopoly on the Bible.

Our interpetations seem to be 180 of the Religous Right.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:51 PM
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7. Won't all those Fundies...
...be shocked when the rapture comes and they're all left behind? Bwaahahahaha!
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:39 PM
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14. Fundies: "Hey, what about us? Hey!"
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 01:40 PM by seaj11
:evilgrin:
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:58 PM
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9. Christian Left
We need to talk in their terms for them to understand. Obviously liberal and progressive scare them.
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maxsmom Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:48 PM
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6. My take on religion
So, "they" say that this was an election based on moral values. That the "majority" of Americans don't want abortions or gay and lesbian marriages, and that those issues were the deciding factors over all others in the choice for who will lead our nation for the next four years. That GW has been chosen by God to lead us not into temptation, but to deliver us from evil. So, we're to assume that the Christian "Right" have all crawled out of their pews and tithed to the RNC for God's will to be done. That's ok. They're going to need that blind faith when all is said and done.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu says that "we are all God's children, and that God has a dream. That God believes in us all, he loves us as we are, he loves our enemies, that God only has us, that we should see with the eyes of the heart, that in the stillness we can hear God's voice, and that there is a brighter side, a nobler story."

Hmmm, should we go with the first scenario, which sounds like it might be God's worst nightmare, or do we go with his dream as relayed by Desmond Tutu. I think I'll go with door #2.

Rapture that, GW!
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morcatknits Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:57 PM
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8. Remember,
On the right -- it's just the one value, sex. There are plenty of liberal and progressive people of faith who are capable of holding more than just one moral value. We need venues for expressing our values as much as non-believers.

We need to hear more from Archbiship Tutu, whom I consider a living saint.
morcatknits
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:58 PM
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10. Where was God in the twentieth century?
A question we all must ask is: what happened in the twentieth century that convinced God to allow the atrocities of Hitler, Stalin, Milosevich, Hussein, Paul Pot, etc.? How did these crimes come to be under the watch of a loving god? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TO CHRISTIANS AS WELL? Is God on vacation? Is God simply gone? How could all this happen?

These situations suggest several possibilities:

1. God doesn't exist
2. God is NOT loving
3. God is not present at this time

Any of the above could be debated for centuries, but one thing is certain: bad stuff happens regardless of God being here or not. YOU CANNOT IGNORE THIS WORLD AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TOWARD IT. GOD MAY BE A WAY TO MAKE THE WORLD REAL FOR SOME, BUT IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY ABANDONMENT OF OUR OWN MORALS AND ETHICS.
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maxsmom Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:11 PM
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12. Desmond Tutu's book
puts your comments, thoughts, into perspective in a very logical, comforting way. As one who does not practice any particular religion, I found that his words touched me on a level that I was not aware existed. The book I'm referring to is God Has A Dream: A Vision of Hope for Our Time. I think we'd be hard pressed to find a contemporary literary work that is as relevant for those in search of a hopeful, optimistic future.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:05 PM
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11. No invasion. But there is a lot of us Liberal Christians out there that
believe in The word of God in His Son our Lord Jesus Christ. And its time for use to fight back and spread the true word of Jesus. Not all this Hate. And if you don't believe that is your Right. This is America.
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