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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:20 PM
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Whatever happened to Jakob Dylan
Remember? The singer of the Wallflowers?

They had a couple of hit singles and then they did that Bowie cover for the Godzilla soundtrack and then they just *disappeared*.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:21 PM
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1. I think the collective will of all music fans made him disappear.
Man, they stank up the joint!
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:35 PM
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3. he had the dubious honor of being loved by the girls in my junior high
anyway, why the heck did they cover 'Heroes' for a Godzilla soundtrack of all things?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:38 PM
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5. And why the crappy remake of Godzilla, for that matter?!
I remember the Wallflowers before that big stupid Headligh hit they had. They had already been promoted by a major a few years previous, and nobdy bit.

I guiess it proves that if your old man is connected enough, his friends in management will keep pushing you on the public until it works.

Same can be said for that band with John Casablancas' kid in it...the Strokes.
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:47 PM
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6. But nearly EVERYONE gobbled up the Strokes for some reason
or critics w/ some clout kept peddling them as THE SAVIORS OF ROCK but their songs were so trite and uninteresting

Still, if I could get on the cover of every greasy stinking glossy in the country by serving up a poor imitation of the Velvet Underground then I probably would.

You know, to score w/ all those nubile young Bernice-Bobs-Her-Hair art major chixxx :smoke:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:50 PM
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8. hey, as long as they popularise the bob-cut.
I love it.

Anyway, here's why things get popular on the radio: repetition.

Basically, a station (or consultants, these days) play something untl it catches, because they're completely owned (either overtly or covertly) bu the labels. They invest lots of money in every new single, and they don't like risking their investments un unknown variables sich as "taste" or "quality".

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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:05 AM
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9. I don't think people really expect quality from the radio these days
or they certainly don't look for it on commercial radio.

so what do they do. find decidedly 'average' listeners in decidedly 'average' settings, employ them in focus groups to gauge the general public's response to a given release? I doubt they invest so heavily in a single HERE since the US has a pretty sluggish singles market.

while I don't know how the singles charts work in Canada, people in the UK still DO purchase them whereby the top 40 IS actually indicative of a single's popularity.

EMI's actually been under scrutiny from NY's attorney gen. recently for BUYING playing time on the radio, were you referring to this development when you mentioned the overt/covert ownership of radio stations?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:09 AM
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10. Yes, but...not specifically...
I was talking about Payola, in all it's incarnations, which is only 5 seconds younger than the medium of radio itself.

I had a friend in commercial radio who summed it up like this:

"Commercial programming is all about bridging the gap between advertisements as unobtrusively as possible; it's not about entertainment, it's about being non-challenging."
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:46 AM
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13. Or at least the collective will of two British COlumbians
Fucking crap music... I've broken better tunes outta my ass
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:26 PM
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2. new album next year
I saw it in the Rolling Stone just today
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:35 PM
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4. oh, happy day
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:48 PM
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7. who?
who is that?

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com
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getoffmytrain Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:13 AM
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11. He bites, like his old man.
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:45 AM
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12. isn't he a christian, now?
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