Cocaine is a dangerous drug

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You may remember a while back I posted a story about my best friend's brother and his addiction. So they've been trying hard and having some success in getting him off the shit.
LAst night we were all at my buddies cabin and we brought his brother along. Around ten at night my friend (his brother) sees him chugging some rye. So he goes in and says "I told you this shit isn't for drinking straight, we don't have alot of it."
So the kid starts freaking out, getting in his older brother's face and my other friend's face. It escalates, and of course they start fighting, it took four of us to pull them apart. Then we get them separated, and put one out side.... the start yelling throught the door and the kid tries to go out after his brother again, and body checks my buddy as he tries to stop him... fucking kid.
Half of me thinks we shoulda just beat him senseless. Every time he drinks (Which I don't think a coke addict trying to recover should be doing) he starts trying to pick fights.

[PittPoliSci]

1. probably right.

i probably wouldn't have had the restraint you had. You handled it well though, I feel.

[HEyHEY]

2. He's lucky...there's others we hang out with

And if he had pushed them down trying to get at him, he woulda been beat senseless.


(One funny thing though, my buddy Jeff trying to break up a fight with one hand while holding a rye and coke in the other)

[PittPoliSci]

4. i always love running into those guys!

They've got the best of both worlds.

The rye and coke inside of him wanted to see the fight, so it communicated with the rye and coke in his hands, telling it to stay put. The sensible person, which remained, wanted to break up the fight, but not at the expense of upsetting the rye and coke in his hands. He had it both ways, he looked concerned, and got to see the fight. :-)

[HEyHEY]

5. No, it wasn't a fight you wanna see

Actually the rye and coke guy broke out in tears a little bit after the fight. "He's not gonna live long if he keeps living like this" is what he said, and he's right.
This kid's destroying his life.

[PittPoliSci]

7. ouch, sorry...

That's a shame. But, doesn't using another "less dangerous" drug sometimes make it easier to quit the "more dangerous" one? Like switching down to methadone from heroin?

Maybe this isn't the same type of situation. I've been lucky thus far never to have to endure something like this with one of my friends.

[NuttyFluffers]

8. this does happen, in fact sometimes recommended too.

people who take percodan for pain relief often have doctor recommendations to take alcohol as much as needed whenever they want another percodan pill for pain. the medical reasoning was that it was easier to deal with alcoholism than percodan addiction. some drugs are incredibly powerful and often weaker drugs are used to wean off someone from a dangerous addiction.

i'd suggest perhaps encouraging a nicotine addiction instead of alcohol or cocaine (both are powerful narcotics, and alcohol has *HORRENDOUSLY* bad interactivity with other drugs). if he started to mix a little coke and gin that kid would be lucky to see sunrise, alcohol is a drug that is best not mixed EVER. all in all he'd be safer with nicotine. sure he'd die around late 40s early 60s from complications, but better that and some sort of life than no life at all. besides, the power of nicotine addiction has been rated by heroin addicts as just as potent if not more so - so it'd have a good chance to challenge his addiction to cocaine and alcohol.

oh yeah, and psychotherapy. definitely some psychotherapy. there's some serious issues going on that are beyond any amateur's capacity to help.

[UpsideDownFlag]

3. tis a hell of a drug.

[MissAnnThrope]

6. This Kid Is Headed For Destruction

He's trading one addiction for another. Which isn't a good thing.

At least he's not dead. A number of years ago, my sister's one friend was engaged to this guy with a coke habit. He was about to go into rehab (for the second or third time). He decided he was having a last hurrah with his drug buddies the night before he was to go into rehab.

Well, she got the phone call that he was dead. Seems he and his buddies went on a coke binge. He overdid it and went into cardiac arrest. His good friends drove up to the emergency room door, opened the car door, dumped his body on the doorstep and took off, lest they get into trouble.

I'd tell you to feel free to share this story with your friend's brother, but I sincerely doubt he'd listen.