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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:11 AM
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Four Degrees of Brian Eno - Does Eno link all musicians?
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 08:12 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Just thought I'd try Eno instead of Elvis Costello, as seen in this thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=1508959&mesg_id=1508959

I get the feeling that we can link just about any modern-day musician to Brian Eno within about four links. Anyone care to volunteer a name?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:15 AM
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1. Marilyn Manson?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:31 AM
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8. MM famously covered 'Sweet Dreams' by the Eurythmics.
Dave Stewart of The Eurythmics co-produced Sinead O'Connor's 'Faith and Courage' with Brian Eno.
There's probably a better link somewhere.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:19 AM
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26. Marilyn Manson was produced by Trent Reznor
Trent Reznor is NIN

his NIN album "Broken" was co-produced by Flood

Flood and Eno co-produced U2's Actung Baby and Zooropa with Daniel Langois.

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:22 AM
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28. Better link, there. Cheers.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:17 AM
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2. RandomKoolzip
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:18 AM
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3. I played keyboard in a band that did a lot of Eno covers
about a thousand years ago -
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:21 AM
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4. Jaco Pastorius
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:33 AM
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9. Kenwood Dennard is the link.
He drummed for Jaco on several early '90s albums, and played in Brand X with Percy Jones, who played bass on Eno's 'Another Green World', 'Before and After Science' and 'Music for Films'.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:22 AM
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5. Maynard James Keenan?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:37 AM
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11. Recorded a track with David Bowie for the Underworld Soundtrack.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:22 AM
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6. David Draiman of Disturbed?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:39 AM
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12. I'll have to google that later, I know nothing of them.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:24 AM
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7. Greg Graffin of Bad Religion?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:45 AM
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13. Bad Religion were produced by Todd Rundgren.
Todd also produced Steve Hillage, who worked with the Orb, who worked with Brian Eno.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:36 AM
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10. Karen Carpenter
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:48 AM
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15. Here's a tenuous one (best I can do at work)
Several of Brian Eno's songs are featured on the soundtrack to Todd Haines' movie 'Velvet Goldmine'. Haines directed a documentary on the life of the Carpenters using Barbie dolls.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:51 AM
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16. well met on the fly
consider my cap doffed
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:45 AM
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14. Iron Butterfly?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:03 AM
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19. I'll have to check later, I'm clueless as to Iron Butterfly.
Apart from 'Ina-Gadda-Da-Vida', of course.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:34 AM
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22. I can get it to five links
Iron Butterfly bassist Lee Dorman subsequently founds Captain Beyond with original Deep Purple vocalist Rod Evans.

Evans founded Deep Purple with guitarist Ritchie Blackmore.

When Blackmore quits the band for the umpteenth time in 1994, in the middle of a tour, they get Joe Satriani to fill in.

Joe Satriani subsequently conceived the G3 concept of three guitar gods going on tour together. One participant in the first G3 tour was King Crimson mastermind Robert Fripp.

And Fripp and Eno have a long running collaborative history, starting with the No Pussyfooting album where Eno first showed Fripp the tape delay system that he was later to call Frippertronics.

I believe there's a better scheme, maybe something linking Deep Purple directly to drummer Simon Phillips (who played on stage with Eno in Phil Manzanera's 801 project) but I can't find it. I'm trying to work with the newly lobotomized Allmusic Guide, where they buried crucial information like who played on what albums.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:38 AM
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23. Good work, though.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:52 AM
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17. Joy Division?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:02 AM
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18. I know one off the bat.
The New Order song 'Angel Dust' from Brotherhood features exactly the same sample Eno samples on 'Regiment' from My Life in the Bush of Ghosts.

Martin Hannett produced Joy Division and U2. Brian Eno produced U2.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:58 AM
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20. Rick Astley
someone had to suggest it ...
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:09 AM
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21. There is a weird link between the two.
Or rather, between Stock Aitken and Waterman, the production team behind Astley, and Eno. SAW had a fourth member of their team, Ciara Aspel, who now works with Eno. Weird, huh?

The more laborious path goes through SAW, who produced Kylie Minogue, who recorded with the Manic Street Preachers, who were produced by Tony Visconti, who produced Brian Eno.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:20 AM
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27. Ah yes, I hadn't reckoned on Kylie
she straddles the 'pop' and 'credible' music worlds. Well done.

As for Aspel - hmmm, not sure if this is really that kosher:
http://www.csc.tcd.ie/~joly/comm00.htm
also featuring "the pioneer of zero-gravity pole dancing , she has since settled down with an astronaut and is the mother of 12 (including the whole of the committee)."

Ciara looks a little young for someone "indirectly responsible for almost a decade of terrible chart musac".
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:24 AM
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29. I wasn't sure if that was meant to be serious or not when I read it.
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 11:25 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Clearly it isn't, it's joshing. Still, I bought it, that's the net for you.
So, I'll stick with the Kylie route. That at least is kosher.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:13 AM
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24. How about, the 2 Brians? Eno & Wilson.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:17 AM
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25. Wilson-McCartney-Lennon-Bowie-Eno?
McCartney plays on Vegetables (on Smile), Lennon is on Fame.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:24 AM
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30. McCartney merely munched on some celery......
during the recording of Vegetables.

But he still made a bigger impact on the record than Mike Love did.

Bah-dump!!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:27 AM
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31. You forget the negative impact Mike Love has on all things
purely by existing. Paul recorded a track for Brian's latest disc, also.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:38 AM
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32. Ween
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:46 AM
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33. Josh Freese. Drummed for Ween and Devo
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 11:56 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Eno produced Devo.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:55 AM
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34. Gee, that was easy. How about ABBA?
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 12:00 PM
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35. I think Flo and Eddie produced Bjorn and Benny
And if that's true, then you can link Eno to Eddie Jobson (who took over the synthesizer chair in Roxy Music) to Frank Zappa (Jobson was in Zappa's touring band in 1976) to Flo and Eddie (born Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan, ex-Turtles, who joined the Mothers in 1970) to Abba.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 12:05 PM
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37. You can also link Flo and Eddie directly to Todd.
Flo and Eddie did the background vocals on the Todd produced 'Forever Now' by the Furs, as mentioned in yesterday's thread.

Eno-Todd-F&E-ABBA
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 12:03 PM
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36. Tenuous, but....Eno produced U2
And U2 performed 'Dancing Queen' live with Bjorn and Benny in Stockholm on June 11th 1992.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:47 PM
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51. Phil Collins drummed on some Eno albums
eg "Taking Tiger Mountain", and he also produced Anni-Frid Lyngstad's solo album "Something's Going On".
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:48 PM
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52. Woah! You're good.
Here am I getting sucked in by the outrageous claims of Irish students, and you've got the Eno-Abba link worked out.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 12:58 PM
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38. OK. What links Brian Eno to Bill Gates?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:00 PM
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39. Oooo-Oooooh!!! I know! I know!!!!!!!!
But I'm not telling.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:11 PM
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42. Ah, go on!
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:17 PM
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45. Welllllll............
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:17 PM by XNASA
Eno wrote the 3.25 second Windows 95 start-up sound. Here's what Brian had to say in an interview:

Q: How did you come to compose "The Microsoft Sound"?

ENO: The idea came up at the time when I was completely bereft of ideas. I'd been working on my own music for a while and was quite lost, actually. And I really appreciated someone coming along and saying, "Here's a specific problem -- solve it."

The thing from the agency said, "We want a piece of music that is inspiring, universal, blah-blah, da-da-da, optimistic, futuristic, sentimental, emotional," this whole list of adjectives, and then at the bottom it said "and it must be 3 1/4 seconds long."

I thought this was so funny and an amazing thought to actually try to make a little piece of music. It's like making a tiny little jewel.

In fact, I made 84 pieces. I got completely into this world of tiny, tiny little pieces of music. I was so sensitive to microseconds at the end of this that it really broke a logjam in my own work. Then when I'd finished that and I went back to working with pieces that were like three minutes long, it seemed like oceans of time.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:31 PM
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50. That is the funniest story I've read in weeks.
Kick-ass thread. Am in stunned awe of your ability!
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:07 PM
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40. How about linking Brian Eno to Charlene of "I've Never Been to Me" fame?
Think you can do that?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:09 PM
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41. I rather doubt it. I'll try though.
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:10 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Damn! She's un-googlable! :scared:
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:12 PM
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43. Hey! She was on Motown! Weird.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:14 PM
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44. That one IS tough. How about linking Brian Eno to David Naughton?
Remember "Makin' It"?

Really bad disco tune sung by the guy who starred in 'American Werewolf in London'.

Should be easier. At least a little...

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:23 PM
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46. Here's a tenuous Charlene link.
Eno produced Bowie, who recorded 'Dancing in the Street' which was by Martha and the Vandellas who were on Motown, as was Charlene.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:24 PM
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47. Charleno!!
Good one!!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:29 PM
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48. Didn't Eno produce the sountrack to the movie?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:29 PM
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49. David Naughton starred in American Werewolf in London
which was directed by John Landis, who appeared in the 1985 movie Into the Night, which also featured Eno-chum David Bowie.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:56 PM
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53. Here's a challenge. Who can link Eno to Prince?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:04 PM
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54. OK. Here goes.
Prince produced Ingrid Chavez who was married to David Sylvian who recorded 'Damage' with Robert Fripp who, of course recorded 'No Pussyfooting' with Eno.

How'd I do?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:09 PM
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55. Damn good. Any others?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:12 PM
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56. How about.......Jon Anderson?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:13 PM
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57. Of Yes? Well, Rick Wakeman does play on Bowie's Hunky Dory.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:18 PM
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59. That's right. And drummer Alan White was in the Plastic Ono Band.
Which links him to Lennon-Bowie-Eno.

It's difficult to think of someone.

Even Rick Nielson worked with Lennon.

How about.......Matthew Sweet. I remember Eno mentioning Sweet in his book "A Year With Swollen Appendices" but I don't recall the link.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:22 PM
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60. Matthew Sweet was in the Community Trolls with Michael Stipe
Michael Stipe appeared in the 1 Giant Leap project with Eno. He also performed at the Clinton Inaugruation with Adam and Larry from U2, and co-produced Velvet Goldmine, which featured Eno songs.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:22 PM
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61. How about Public Enemy to Eno? Anyone?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:31 PM
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64. Public Enemy to Moby to Bowie to Eno
:shrug:
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:36 PM
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65. There you go. I was unaware of the Moby-PE link.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:37 PM
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66. There is a recent anti-war single called....
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:39 PM
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68. Thanks. I'd best check that out. How 'bout Eno to The Byrds?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:43 PM
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70. Too easy.....
Eno-Roxy Music who covered "Eight Miles High".
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:46 PM
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72. I'd forgotten that. My path was a little more convoluted.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:24 PM
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62. It came to me, a direct link.........Robert Quine
Boom!!!

Quine played for both Sweet and Eno.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:26 PM
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63. I bow to your superior link, sir!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:17 PM
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58. Anderson was in Yes with Bill Bruford
who played drums live with Genesis, taking over from Phil Collins when he did the singing. Phil Collins drummed on Eno albums.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:38 PM
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67. Bruford also played on Red with Robert Fripp
And Fripp and Eno have a long history of collaboration.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:40 PM
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69. Ashley Hutchings of Fairport Convention
I know the thread - just wanted to see if you did as well.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:44 PM
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71. Is it this one?
Richard Thompson of Fairport Convention played on Nick Drake's Bryter Layter which was produced by Fairport produced Joe Boyd. John Cale played on Bryter Layter and recorded several times with Brian Eno.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:04 PM
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73. Not the one I was thinking but mine involved Cale as well.
Hutchings played with Thompson in Fairport. Thompson played on John Cale's Fear Album which also featured Phil Manzanera on guitar. Manzanera of course played with Eno on the first two Roxy Music albums.

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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:48 PM
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74. ....to Johnny Cash.
Brian Eno co-produced Elvis Costello's "My Dark Life". Elvis recorded Nick Lowe's "What's So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding". Nick Lowe was once married to Carlene Carter. Carlene was Johnny Cash's step-daughter.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:51 PM
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75. Also....Johnny Cash covered Trent Reznor's 'Hurt'.
Flood engineered and co-produced Nine Inch Nails, Flood co-produced Zooropa with Brian Eno.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:53 PM
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76. Eno produced Cash on U2's Zooropa.
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