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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:22 PM
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O.K. How about bass players and drummers
No one ever seems to mention bass players or drummers -- who do you like?
Me:
Bass:
John Entwhistle
Jaco Pastoras
Roger Waters
Paul McCarntey
Peter Cetera (Sp?) (before he sold out)
Donald "Duck" Dunn
Flea
John Paul Jones

Drummers:

Keith Moon
Ian Pace
The guy from Santana who's name I should know
Ringo, yes, Ringo
John Bonham (sp?)
Beauford Carter
John Fishman
Richie Hayward (Little Feat)

Keith and Ian are my abosolute FAVES!!
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:35 PM
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1. Drummers
you already named a lot of the ones I like but I want to add this into the drummer section:

Dennis Chambers- Santana also played with Parliament and Funkadelic and many others


Mickey Hart
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:52 AM
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26. What about the voice of Getty Lee?
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 03:53 AM by rucky
How did it get so high?
I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?

O' Queso...

Bassists:
Getty Lee
Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth)
Mingus - Greatest EVER!!!
Mike Watt (Minutemen)
Rob Wasserman (Ratdog)

Drummers:
Neal Peart
Jeremiah Green (ex-Modest Mouse)
Steve Shelly (Sonic Youth)
Steve Perkins (Jane's Addiction)

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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:37 PM
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2. Doug Wimbish and Will Calhoun
(see below)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:49 PM
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8. Short video of just Doug playing:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:38 PM
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3. Drummers: Hal Blaine, Ronnie Tutt, Larry Londin
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 08:38 PM by ForrestGump
:-)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:40 PM
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6. P.S.: and DJ Fontana, for the same reasons as Ringo
(though DJ was probably a better drummer)
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:38 PM
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4. Okay...
Bass:
pretty much the same as your list, but add:

Les Claypool

Drums:
again, similiar to your list, but at the top, put:

Danny Carey

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:39 PM
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5. LEMMY.
LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. MMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY. LEMMY.

Second Runner up: Les Claypool
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 10:40 AM
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33. Eeep!
I'm scared of Lemmy. ;(
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:46 PM
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7. Nice list of drummers
The nerd in me wishes to inform you that it's spelled Paice. And the guy from Santana you're trying to remember is, I assume, Michael Shrieve, who was 19 years old when he recorded that album. And I'm always pleased to see Hayward getting his due.

What do you think of Neil Peart? I think of him as almost a sober and disciplined version of Moon.

I like a lot of prog-rock and Eurock players. I've been obsessing lately over the Krautrock group Can, and listening to Jaki Liebezeit. I really like Bill Bruford in King Crimson. Phil Collins is a tremendously powerful drummer, but you can't hear it in his own records. He really shined in this fusion band he played with for a while at the end of the '70s, called Brand X. And there's a player named Chris Cutler, formerly of Henry Cow, whose technique is actually pretty poor but who makes every stroke a unique musical event-- very interesting player.

I'm a bass player myself, and I'm happy to say that I get to play with one of my favorite drummers around, a guy named Jon Proudman. He was in this amazing Captain Beefheart tribute band band called Men & Volts, and now his main gig is Cul de Sac (tremendous instrumental band from Boston), but he and I also constitute the rhythm section for a singer/songwriter named Tim Mungenast. Proudman has rock solid tempo, and a freewheeling Elvin Jones kind of propulsiveness-- but he can also do the super-precise John French stuff.

My favorite bassists kinda haven't changed since the '60s: McCartney, Jack Casady (Jefferson Airplane), Phil Lesh (Grateful Dead), Jack Bruce (Cream), Chris Hillman (Byrds), Richard Sinclair (Caravan), Dave Holland (Miles and Anthony Braxton and Carla Bley and...).
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:52 PM
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9. I feel bad leaving Casady off list
I also left off Karl Palmer, Butch Trucks and Jaimo of Alman Brothers on the Drummers list. I also left Stanley Clark off the bass player list.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 PM
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10. did I hear Elvin Jones?
which brings to mind Ron Carter also.

Oh, & I could never leave out Phil Lesh
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44wax Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:08 PM
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15. I'm going old school now
Drums:
Lenny White, David Garibaldi, Harvey Mason, Tony Williams, Peter Erskine, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Norman Connors, Billy Cobham, Philly Jo Jones, Art Blakely, Steve Gadd.

Bass:

James Jamerson, Rocco Prestia, Stanley Clarke, Jaco, Ray Brown, Mingus,
Verdine White, Bruce Babbit.

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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:57 PM
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18. Ah, Gene Krupa -- he is the granddaddy of them all!
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 PM
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11. Bass- Claypool, Chris Squire, TONY LEVIN. Drums: Danny Carey, Billy Cobham
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:03 PM
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12. Danny Carey
Best Drummer in the World!!!
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:36 PM
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13. Don't ask me for drummers...
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 09:37 PM by Dirk39
but the greatest bassplayer of all times is James Jamerson. And the one, I like almost as much as Jamerson or more, although he might not be the greatest musician ever, is Pete Hook from Joy Division and later New Order.
Both have one thing in common: I've never met people, who don't play bass, who admire Markus Miller or Pastorious. Some simply like Pete Hook, but they think he's a guitar player or they simply don't know that it's a bass player. But he touches them, and this is the greatest compliment for a musician, not for a fetishist. I would rather like to touch one persons feelings than to hear 1000 guys saying: look at how he's doing it.
Jamerson is another case, he simply made the motown thing working. Many didn't get, what he was doing. But take any sensitive person in this world and just ask her to listen to what he's doing. Sometimes he's playing complex solo concerts within a 3-minute-pop-soap opera. He tries to speak, not to play. Listen to a juke-box-song like Darlin' Dear with the 13 years old Michael Jackson singing and listen to the bass. Incredible. Or listen to Marvin Gayes What's going on (the whole record). This is a masterpiece.
You forgot Ron Carter, too. This will not be forgiven. He's a great musician and not as arrogant as many people think.
And living in Germany, I have to mention Klaus Voormann, the bassplayer for John Lennon in the post-Beatles area. I really like his work.
Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:43 PM
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17. Agreed and my apologies.
Motown did some great "unknown" artists working for them, I am more familar with the guys from Staxx but I do love Motown -- Not Diana Ross Motown, but old Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Temps, etc. I have often noticed and appreciated Klaus Voormann's work with Lennon. He has worked with other people and groups I like, but at this moment I can't think of them. I am sorry to say I am not familiar with Ron Carter. I will have to check into his stuff.
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oustemnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:42 PM
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14. Watt and Hurley from the Minutemen/fIREHOSE
now there was a damn rhythm section!

If you wanna hear where Flea got his chops/inspiration, check out the Minutemen, particularly Double Nickels on the Dime.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:09 PM
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16. I'd add a couple more
On bass, Jack Bruce. Drummers, Mike Mangini, a Boston-based guy who's played with Steve Vai and Extreme, among others.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:34 PM
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19. Best rhythm sections
Entwistle/Moon - The Who
Lee/Peart - Rush
Jones/Bonham - Zeppelin
Sumner/Copeland - The Police
Wyman/Watts - Rolling Stones
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:35 AM
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28. 'Sly & Robbie'
two of reggae's finest.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:51 PM
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20. I like everyone listed, but
<ahem> Victor Wooten! <ahem>

If God decided to learn to play bass, he'd take lessons from Victor.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:04 AM
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34. Amen!
He and Claypool are gods.

I also love Mike Gordon, not so much for his raw talent at the bass but for his phrasing, his melodic instincts, and his ability with other instruments (banjo)
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ben_thayer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 12:50 AM
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21. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix) was way ahead of his time
Yeah... Lots of good people listed above. Some of my faves:
Bass
Ron Carter
Dave Holland
Charlie Haden
Jaco
Mark Egan

Drums
Tony Williams
Bill Bruford
Steve Gadd
Elvin Jones
Airto Moriera

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:10 AM
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22. Bill Kreutzman.....
geesh
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:21 AM
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23. Ah, but there's the dillemma...
Can you rank Bill without also ranking Mickey Hart?

Aw fuck it. Count em both. And Phil Lesh for the rhythm section vote.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:37 AM
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29. I'll second that emotion
pretty awesome combination!
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iwalktheline Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:32 AM
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24. well, they're pretty old
bass: Marshall Grant

drums: Fluke Holland

always did it for me
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:35 AM
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25. Welcome to Democratic Underground, iwalktheline!
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 01:35 AM by VolcanoJen
:toast:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:54 AM
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27. My all-time fave rock rhythm section has to be Wetton/Bruford.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 08:55 AM by stlsaxman
They led so many other rockers right into the dark unknown of "rock improv".
Even with the jazz sensabity that improv brings, they never lost touch with
that rock-solid base. One might say that Ginger Baker/Jack Bruce pioneered
the improv bit but they based those improvs from the blues, sure they had rock
instrumentation but they perported to be "blues" players (well- Bruce did,
anyways). But hell- Jack Bruce couldn't find the downbeat if it bit him on the
ass! That guy had no business even trying to play blues... but i digress-

The closest to carrying on the Wetton/Bruford tradition in the modern day is
from the same band- King Crimson- Trey Gunn and Pat Mastelatto are all that
and a bag of chips!

Trey Gunn has fused the rock feel of John Wetton and the musicality of Tony
Levin into a voice of his own that is yet instinctly Crimson.

Take Bill Bruford and plop him in a blender with Jamie Muir and puree'....
Pat Mastelatto!

The Rhythm Buddies (trey/pat) are pure Crimson. Damn! As can be heard on
The Power To Believe". The penultimate KC album of the 21st Century.
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 12:54 PM
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37. Very good call.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:40 AM
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30. It's Carter Beauford. nt
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:59 AM
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31. I will continue the prog-rock theme
Bassists:
Geddy Lee
Chris Squire (probably my all-time fave)
Tony Levin
John Wetton


Drummers:
Bill Bruford
Terry Bozzio
Neil Peart
Stewart Copeland
Tony Williams
Chad Wackerman
Dave Weckl
Simon Phillips
Virgil Donati
Mike Portnoy
Billy Cobham

(I am a drummer myself, btw)
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 10:02 AM
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32. Bass: Claypool and Flea. Drums: Copeland and Blakey nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:28 AM
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35. Jack Bruce
on bass
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:43 AM
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36. A few more..
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 11:43 AM by opiate69
Bass:
Geezer Butler
Glen Cornick
Billy Sheehan
The session guy who played on most of the old Mowtown hits...can't remember his name...

Drums:
Danny Carey
Barrimore Barlow (Jethro Tull)
Bill Ward
Matt Cameron
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 12:55 PM
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38. Yes, I forgot Barrimore Barlow.
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Coffee Coyote Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:16 PM
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39. five for each
Bass:

Leon Wilkeson
Paul Goddard
Jaco Pastorius
Geddy Lee
Allen Woody

Drums:

Tony Williams
Billy Cobham
Neil Peart
Matt Abts
Pete Sandoval
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:25 PM
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40. I think musicians serve the song
not the other way around

drummer: Charlie Watts

bassist: the late Roy Huskey Jr.
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