I answered:
> You want me to document your lies and propaganda? Where to begin. The first lie is that the President lied regarding Iraq's WMD. Let me try to verbally draw you a picture. You have a madman with a history of using biological and chemical weapons. You have been told by your intelligence agencies, the UN, European intelligence apparatus, and Russia's Putin calls and tells you that not only does Sadam have biological weapons but he is planning attacks on American interests. These are the facts. What due you do? If President Bush had not acted he would have been negligent.
> Your website makes reference to a loss of civil rights due to the
passage and enacting of the Patriot Act. The truth is no, I repeat, no cases have been filed against the government due to government
intrusion under the auspices of this act. These are facts. They are
undeniable. Maybe you should watch Fox news instead of getting your
info from The Nation website or the propaganda promulgated by the
dotters on Democratic Underground.
Not that this will do any good but:
1. "You want me to document your lies and propaganda? Where to begin. The first lie is that the President lied regarding Iraq's WMD"
So they found them? Stockpiles of weapons bush talked about?
"If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today,
and we do, does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?"
"Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists,"
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these U.A.V.'s for missions targeting the United States."
george bush
"Our conservative estimate is that Iraq has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical-weapons agents. That is enough agent to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets."
"There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more. And he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction."
"we have first-hand descriptions of biological-weapons factories on wheels and rails. We know that Iraq has at least seven of these mobile, biological-agent factories."
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
Colin Powell
"We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
—Vice President Dick Cheney on NBC's Meet the Press, March 16, 2003
"I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons."
—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, at a hearing of the Senate's appropriations subcommittee on defense, May 14, 2003
Should we continue?
http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bushlies1.html"You have a madman with a history of using biological and chemical weapons."
2. You ever research what he used them for and who supported him while he did it? Supplied by the good ole USA under Reagan and brokered by Rumsfeld. You may wanna check that.
3. "Your website makes reference to a loss of civil rights due to the
> passage and enacting of the Patriot Act. The truth is no, I repeat, no
> cases have been filed against the government due to government
> intrusion under the auspices of this act."
Actually, until very recently none of the arrested where even allowed council.
"The report said that in the six-month period that ended on June 15, the inspector general's office had received 34 complaints of civil rights and civil liberties violations by department employees that it considered credible, including accusations that Muslim and Arab immigrants in federal detention centers had been beaten. "
"While most of the accusations in the report are still under investigation, the report said a handful had been substantiated, including those against a federal prison doctor who was reprimanded after reportedly telling an inmate during a physical examination that "if I was in charge, I would execute every one of you" because of "the crimes you all did."
The Wall Street Journal 05/07/04
author: Robert Block
(Copyright (c) 2004, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
Under 9/11 Law, ATF Keeps Tabs on Propellant Buyers; Feds Visit Al's
Hobby Shop
ELMHURST, Ill.
Al's Hobby Shop in this leafy corner of suburban Chicago is always
packed with mothers looking for Cub Scout badges, teenagers ogling
imported slot cars and grown men playing with model trains.
But to federal law-enforcement officials, Al's is also a possible
terrorist supply depot. And so, last October, a special agent from the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was sent to Al's
from Washington to buy $1,700 in model rocket motors.
"The guy told me that the government wanted to do some tests," recalls
Tim Lehr, who sold the agent 40 motors containing almost 60 pounds of
propellant. "He wouldn't say what the tests were for, but I could guess:
The government wanted to ruin my hobby."
Published on Monday, July 21, 2003 by the New York Times
Report on USA Patriot Act Alleges Civil Rights Violations
by Philip Shehon
What I just showed you is called FACTS, something you still haven't shown.
Try again, do not pass GO, do not collect your USS Ronald Reagan cap, and for heavens sake STOP watching Fox News
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