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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:49 PM
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How can total MORONS afford Harley -Davidsons?
I was listening on the BBC (World Service on Shortwave, not that "stepped-on" propaganda NPR cuts-and-pastes) and they were interviewing some of the hog riders who went to DC as part of "Rolling Thunder"...
I wonder how many told the interviewer they like Bush because he didn't get no blow-job?

One guy, claiming to speak for 3/4 of the Vietnam veterans, claims that "Kerry's a traitor, he betrayed his Brothers when he come back and did that protesting thing agin' the other soldiers still there..."

Dumbass! Kerry wasn't protesting against soldiers, he was protesting the policies of limp-dicked old white men who SENT those soldiers over there to die.
Just the same as now, we have a bunch of limp-dicks who can't get no satisfaction unless they're commanding Death and Dstruction...

I sometimes wish I was a stuppid Ditto-Monkey, because those moronic assholes seem to have plenty of money for Harley's, and F-250 trucks, and campers, and bass boats, and $1500 shotguns....

Well-read, intelligent Video Engineer can't afford shit....
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:52 PM
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1. Debt...they live their lives with debt....
plain and simple...and just like "their president". :eyes:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:55 PM
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3. They get more debt than I do.
I needed a new set of wheels 2 years ago, and I'm paying damn near usury rates on the loan...

Of course, when the whole house of cards comes falling in on them, I can laugh...Except they'll just blame it on the Clenis....
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:55 PM
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4. everyone does...
that is why everyone is driving around in nice cars and BROKE
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:01 PM
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7. No...NOT EVERYONE....sorry....
I personally do NOT "keep up with the Joneses". My debt-ratio is so
low...I think they consider me "un-American".
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:10 PM
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15. Vonnegut nailed it...
I forget which novel it's in, but he observed that the US was populated with "clapboard shithouses with one or two shiny new cars in the driveway"...
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:14 PM
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17. That's putting it mildly...
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:56 PM
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5. As if some of we liberals do not live in debt
If you live without debt then good on you but some of us like it.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:01 PM
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8. Enjoy it....
its the downfall of nations and of individuals...
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:08 PM
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14. I do enjoy it
You only live once and one should enjoy every minute of their short life.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:14 PM
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:17 PM
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19. Maybe you should lay off the insults
I'm sure you are friends with those like me that go into debt to enjoy the finer things in life other than gruel and bed boards.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:19 PM
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20. Enjoy it....
keep the chinese economy running....
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:23 PM
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22. I own a Harley, Kawasaki, Four Winns, Volvo, Yamaha etc
none of which are made in China thank you very much.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:26 PM
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24. OK then...keep Japan and Sweden up and running...
I'm sure that some individual components are Chinese...but that's
alright. Shop at Wal-Mart as well...? :eyes:
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:28 PM
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25. I've never stepped foot into a Walmart
Have you?
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:49 PM
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33. You own NOTHING my friend..
YOU are OWNED by the bank.

The borrower is slave to the lender.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:18 PM
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40. I demand to differ
I own my rides outright but yes my home and land is owned by the bank.

But I love my neighbors...two of which are elderly women that are in love and need my help with mechanical and structural issues along with helping to gather their firewood for the Winter. My other neighbors are more mainstream but we still barter our trades to get by.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:54 PM
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2. I refuse to bad mouth the rolling thunder riders second hand
If I wish to diss them I would do it in person where it means something. Attacking them from afar in the safety zone of DU is not my idea of upfront honesty.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:57 PM
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6. So are you telling me I'm too much of a pussy....
Edited on Sun May-30-04 09:58 PM by BiggJawn
to tell 'em to their face that they're morons?

You don't know me, Squid.

I've PAID my fucking dues.

you got YOUR idea of "upfront honesty"

I got mine.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:02 PM
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10. No, I'm not calling you a "pussy"
That is your paranoid defense kicking in because you failed to understand my message. No problem...no insult intended here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:02 PM
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:03 PM
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12. Perhaps you could explain why I am unwelcome here
Are you projecting or just afraid to debate the facts?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:15 PM
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:21 PM
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21. I'm not a republican pal
I didn't like the tens of thousand of dead draftees from the democratic wing of the hawkish party in the sixties either so don't project or preach to me unwarranted claims of party affiliation.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:33 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:36 PM
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:48 PM
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32. Then knock it off
This War of Aggression and its supporters are not welcome here.

If you do not support the arrogant policy of BushCo and the BushCo War of Aggression, stop acting the part.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:54 PM
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35. You have misjudged me
Nothing I have said or posted supports "bushco" or any other paranoid delusions that have resulted from my honesty here.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:02 PM
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37. Question: Should we have invaded Iraq?
Knowing that Iraq has no WMD, no links to 9/11, and was not ever a threat to anyone.

Should we have waged a war of aggression against Iraq?
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:13 PM
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39. My opinion...
We should have settled things after Kuwait was invaded.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:29 PM
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42. Hmmmm.
You are weird, but interesting.

Another question: If BushCo was able to get another four years, would that be something you could live with?
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:59 PM
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43. Of course I could live with it as could you
I may not like the leader but I will still live my life with hope for a better future. I'll fight like hell to affect an election but in the end we have to live with the results.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:44 AM
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49. Four more years of BushCo will definitely hurt our seniors
and as I grow toward that evidential end to my life, this is scary. My parent is there now, and I worry.

The current leader just wants more in his and his coffers and will take it from yours and mine.

That is why I am here at DU.

You are new, why are you here?
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 08:07 AM
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55. I'm here because I prefer liberal company
I am also here to learn how to be effective in getting democratic cadidates elected. I apologize if I come of as brash but it's just my nature.
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:26 PM
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41. Obvious answer
You're not brown-nosing enough.

LOL

Ride safe, wts
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:02 PM
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11. A LOT of the new crop of Harley 'riders' are posing f***wits
who can't even control their machines, beautifully chromed Soviet-style tractors that they are.

It's the RUB phenomenon -- Rich Urban Bikers

http://www.goingfaster.com/angst/
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:04 PM
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13. I ride a zx-11 rice burner
What do you ride?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:34 PM
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28. I ride
a Ducati 749s. My previous bike was an F4i, but I missed the powerband of a twin.

And I agree that most people who spend $15k+ on a Harley are poseurs who've watched too many episodes of 'American Chopper.' Further, anybody who rides a ZX-11 and deems it necessary to attach 'rice burner' likely ascribes to the 'Biker Boyz' school of riding; confident idling at a stoplight in a tank top and thimble helmet, but utterly outclassed in any sort of turn.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as to whether you're a troll or not.

But BiggJawn's right at least on one point: You smell like a squid.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:39 PM
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30. Are you ready for the truth?
I ride with full leather and teach the MSF course on weekends. I bet you didn't expect that revelation.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:45 PM
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31. Fair enough
I can admit it when my presumption's wrong. Confused as to why you'd ride a straight-liner like a ZX-11 though. Why anyone would, actually.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:50 PM
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34. The ZX just happens to be my fav
I still ride my UJM 1975 Z1 900 and my Fathers Indian Chief. I just love motorcycles and enjoy working on them too. I became an MSF instructor after many years of seeing too many brothers die on the road from stupid and uneducated reactions to danger.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:58 PM
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36. Well
Welcome to DU. Gotta give props to MSF instructors. I have to say, though, your first few posts in a couple threads got people's trolldars up. Not a criticism, just sayin', in case you're wondering.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:11 PM
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38. No problem here. I am often defensive
It must be the SIPDE in me.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 04:32 AM
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51. The mighty ZX-11
is a great sport-tourer. Not a truly squidly bike, in terms of ripping around tight bendies and pullinh wheelies, but it does okay for its size and eats a lot of landscape very quickly. It's perfect for the southwest United States, that's for sure.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 04:29 AM
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50. Same thing -- Kawasaki ZX-11
Speed King, 1990-1998!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:25 PM
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23. Some poor folks...
Collect parts for years and then assemble them. Since you need to fix older Harley's all the time, anyway, having built the thing from "scratch" means you also know how to keep it working!

It helps to be able to weld and machine and paint.

Many of the bikers who used to come into our rural Illinois road house (it was the family business I grew up in) were guys who had built their own from wrecks in just this fashion.
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weedthesmoke Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:31 PM
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26. I started pack ratting bike parts in 1972
I have used many parts and brass rods to keep a ride running. There is a special feeling from building your own ride.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:05 AM
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44. Do you ever see their teeth?
Edited on Mon May-31-04 12:06 AM by Angelus
Their houses? Well...if you haven't, you'd notice that many of them are missing a few teeth and that their houses are run-down.

Now you know where their spending priorities are.
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:08 AM
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45. And just I thought this thread couldn't get any lamer
The glass ceiling has been shattered.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:09 AM
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46. Truth hurts, eh?
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:32 AM
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48. Nah it's just my abcessed molar
If I tie a string to it and kick my truck off the blocks maybe it will come out.

LOL!
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:23 AM
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47. wow this thread is one big ball of stupid.
Let's all generalize.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 04:35 AM
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52. You're generalizing
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:01 AM
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53. wow
this is one strange thread :crazy:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:06 AM
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54. Not really. The yaks haven't even shown up yet.
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