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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:44 AM
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two gay lovers + a tree in Central Park = right wing nightmare . . .
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=17&u=/ap/gay_lovers_in_tree

NEW YORK - Two gay lovers — a man in a black dress and a boy in only a pair of shorts — protested their families' lack of understanding for their relationship by climbing a Central Park tree on Thursday, stripping, performing lewd acts in front of onlookers and refusing to come down for hours.

The lovers, ages 32 and 17, scaled the 55-foot larch tree next to the Chess and Checkers House around 4 p.m., said Detective John Sweeney, a police department spokesman.

The couple had told the boy's parents about their relationship and been rebuked, police said.

The man played on branches near the top of the tree and waved at onlookers while the boy sat quietly a few feet below him. Police said the man later performed oral sex on the boy and stripped down to a thong to taunt them.

- more . . .

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=17&u=/ap/gay_lovers_in_tree

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:46 AM
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1. that is a right-wing dream-come true, whatchoutalkinabout?
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 12:47 AM by maggrwaggr
right-wingers LOVE this kind of shit.

They can paint EVERY gay, and every liberal, with this brush.

It's fucked up.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:58 AM
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6. ya know, you're right . . . oops . . . I mean, you're correct . . .
wingers will probably cream their lime green golf slacks when they see this . . .
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:47 AM
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2. what exactly are these two idiots hoping to accomplish?
How counter-productive can you be?

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:49 AM
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3. I'm alerting the mods
This is a Matcom thread :evilgrin:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:53 AM
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4. average rating is 2.54
Don't hand this the dignity of loading the page; these two were idiots.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:57 AM
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5. no statutory rape in NY?
the kid is 17 years old, can't legally give consent. very disturbing, seems like exploitation to me. the genders doesn't bother me, it's the ages. i'm sure the 32 year old figured out the kids age already, and to continue this? he's just messed in the head and the 17 year old is being manipulated.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 12:59 AM
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7. pretty sure the age of consent in NY is 17 . . . n/t
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 01:14 AM
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9. Age of consent is 18 in NY with a 2 year grace
so that high school kids aren't breaking the law when one of them turns 18 first
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 01:03 AM
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8. Sounds like the 32 year old is less mature than the 17 year old
Oral sex in the tree? In front of cops? Throwing thongs? Oy vey.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 01:31 AM
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10. as a queer person, I wholeheartedly condemn this stupid act
that they had done as a "protest"
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 01:42 AM
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11. This kind of demonstration...
...only appalls me. I find it disgusting, and doesn't exactly give the queer community at large a great name. Unfortunately we all get punished for the bad apples amongst us.

I don't know what the age of consent is in NYC, but if the 17 year old is under aged, I hope they charge the other.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 01:43 AM
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12. As I said above
the age of consent in NY is 18 with a two year grace period, so this is unquestionably statuatory rape
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 02:00 AM
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13. Sir Captain said...


>This kind of demonstration...only appalls me. I find it disgusting, and >doesn't exactly give the queer community at large a great name. >Unfortunately we all get punished for the bad apples among us.

Ironic considering how the fundamentalist neo con bad apples can get away with mayhem and twisting everything and no one in church or congress calls them on it in a way that has any teeth..

And I agree With the captain,if it is true,what these two guys did was really stupid.They must have been going crazy from the stress and despair.But still it's no excuse to be a dumb ass.especially a dumb ass that smears the gay community as well as themselves.'If this article is a smear article made up or blowing things out of proportion to rouse people against gays and gay relationships ,than that propaganda needs to be exposed for what it is pronto.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 02:04 AM
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14. You have me confused
with foreigncorrespondent, though i certainly agree with her sentiment

I was simply clarifying NY's statuatory rape laws
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 03:04 AM
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15. What they are doing is wrong on SOOO many levels.
First and foremost, their beef is with the parents, not with people who wanted to just enjoy a day in the park. It's extremely inconsiderate to do sex acts where kids are playing and people are trying to relax.

Second, The age diffference is disturbing. A 32 year old man and a 17 year old boy? No matter how "consensual" it is, the elder is taking advantage of the lack of judgment of the younger.

I can see a 17-year-old acting out in such a moronic way, but a 32-year old? Most likely he is mentally disturbed.

The man should be arrested, and the boy should be put in protective custody from the molester. He probably should get some therapy and guidance from the local GLBT community center.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:44 AM
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16. It was dumb.
Very offensive. The gender of the participants is irrelevant. It was offensive, inappropriate and dumb.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 05:31 AM
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17. Wasn't this a Harvey Keitel movie?
Seems awful familiar. Wasn't this running late night on HBO Signature?
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:02 AM
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18. Still Dumb
I may approve of gay rights, but I think that activities beyond light necking ought to be done in private. This includes practicing heterosexuals as well as gays.
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