"An End To Evil": a new neocon manifesto

[G_j]

I know I've seen this discussed but not sure if this article has been posted,

http://tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/9688
The Next War 

Doug Ireland is a New York-based media critic and commentator.

It's a helluva New Year's present: a new neocon manifesto which wants to put the United States on a course for war with three countries.

Published the day before 2004 by Random House, An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror bears the signature of two of Washington's most influential ideologues. Richard Perle, known as the "Prince of Darkness", helped put together the now-famous 1999 neocon manifesto (signed by Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, among others) calling for war on Iraq. David Frum is Dubya's former speechwriter, the man who coined "axis of evil" and put it in the president's mouth.

The book proposes harsh action against France—which Perle and Frum say should be treated as an "enemy"—and thunders that "We should force European governments to choose between Paris and Washington." Gerhard Schroeder has just accepted a French invitation to become the first German Chancellor to participate in the annual commemoration of the 1944 U.S. landings at Normandy that began the liberation of Europe. This underscores how the Franco-German couple is in the ascendance once again as the dominant force in the European Union—Perle and Frum's francophobia is a mad prescription for dividing the Western democracies right at the time their cooperation is essential to advance the war on terrorism, now as ever primarily a police/intelligence problem. (Not to mention that the French, with several centuries of experience in dealing with the Arab world, frequently have better intelligence info than does Washington—witness the pre-Christmas fiasco of the Paris/Los Angeles flights, where among the passengers the U.S. falsely identified as "terrorists" was a six-year-old child).
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[SlavesandBulldozers]

1. France an enemy?

these people are out of control.

[supernova]

2. Good God

are these people not getting enough sex at home?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. Personally...

I feel that the first action taken by the new Democrat President around this time next year (hopefully) should be a heartfelt, unconditional apology to France and all Franco-Americans for the outrageous, misplaced ill-treatment they've endured under Bush. Oh yeah, and the words, "You were right - we should've waited for inspections to occur" should be in that apology.

(Edit: fixed typo)

[G_j]

16. I agree

there is a lot of repair to be done.

[bryant69]

4. While this is pretty outrageous

It's not as significant as the other things Perle and Frum call for--Regime Change in both Syria and Iran and a blockade around North Korea (along with a possible preemptive strike against their nucular sites). This practically guarentees a return to the draft, as our resources are already stretched thin, and the possibility of a war with Korea.

Cal Thomas's article today was about how we either adopt this policy or run away like cowards.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[LeahMira]

23. Well, then...

Cal Thomas's article today was about how we either adopt this policy or run away like cowards.


Well, then, I vote we run away like cowards.

Why are we in America afflicted with idiots like Cal Thomas who keep thinking in either/or terms? Are they all so stupid that they can only come up with two possibilities?

But even if there were only two possibilities, the logical consequence would seem to be that either Americans run away like cowards or the rest of the world's nations run away like cowards. Somehow I just can't imagine that will sit too well with the rest of the world's nations.

[PVnRT]

5. An end to evil? Do we all get ponies, too?

:eyes:

You want an end to evil, how about starting with ridding the world of PNAC?

[grannylib]

10. Exactly! PNAC has got to go

[MadHound]

6. What these neocon idiots want is WWIII

Gee, don't these dumbfucks realize that if they take on France they're going to be taking on all of Europe? Including Russia! And apparently they didn't learn a damn thing from the Korean War either, like the lesson that if we take on N. Korea, China is going to jump in also. Unfortunetly it seems like it is from Perle's mouth to Bushco's ear. If we start any of this shit they're proposing we will get our ass handed to us by the ENTIRE world.

Why do these neocons want to model the US on Hitler's Germany. Oh yeah, that's right, they made their fortunes, gotten their mindset, and adapted the mindset of the Nazi's. Not to mention some of them ARE former Nazis, or Nazi sympathizers. Well, it looks like they're going to try and go down the same destructive path as the Nazis.

Count me in as part of the resistance.

[PVnRT]

7. Article 7 of NATO

You know, the one that NATO invoked after 9/11? Seems Bush has forgotten it already...

[salinen]

8. I have a feeling many more

nukes are pointed our way since chimpco.

[Jacobin]

9. These guys have completely flipped their lids

There can be no other explanation.

They are fucking mad.

[G_j]

11. when the people who

are formulating the foreign policy of a country with the world's most powerful military, use the word "evil" so freely, you know the planet in in great danger.
Don't forget they are building a new generation of nuclear weapons and have clearly expressed that it is perfectly acceptable to use them.
:scared:

[IrateCitizen]

12. Beware of they who seek to "externalize" evil...

At least in the sense that it is some sort of external phenomenon that can be defeated by direct action. IMHO, Gandhi summed it up best when he said, "The only true battle between good and evil takes place in men's hearts. That is where all future wars should be fought."

People (and I use that term loosely here) like Richard Perle are so drunk on their own power and arrogance that they probably actually believe that they can rid the world of "evil" through military action. What they fail to realize is that when you resort to violent action in order to further your aims, you are embracing (and therefore perpetuating) the very evil that you claim to fight. Many times, in the end, the evil ends up GREATER because of such action.

Perhaps such is just the folly and fate of humankind. :shrug:

[Stephanie]

13. So has Perle sold his vacation home in the South of France?

Just asking. MF.

[maggrwaggr]

14. If they want an end to evil they should check themselves into prison

these people are psychotic and dangerous

[Wapsie B]

15. How's that?

Are the neocons gonna drink some kool-aid?

[G_j]

17. kick

[maggrwaggr]

18. I'm kicking this too before I go to work

:kick:

This is (broken record) a huge story.

If only the people knew that the men leading this country were writing books like this ............

The slogan for Bush/Cheney in 04 is indeed "Four More Wars!"

It's NOT a joke.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

19. If the neocons keep being this arrogant

I can see a lot of the European nations choosing Paris.

[maxrandb]

20. It is already getting "ugly"

Heard Rush yesterday. I know I shouldn't, but I ran out for lunch and had it on the radio. He was basically saying that "some Republicans will support Bush no matter what, because they feel that the next election can destroy the Democratic Party that they see as EVIL, and the biggest threat to America." This was in response to a caller who was pissed at * for all the crazy spending and immigration policy.

See, we can't just disagree with these nut-jobs. If you don't walk in lockstep to their agenda, we are EVIL!

My god, how that slippery slope is getting steeper and more slippery. I'm convinced that this next election is going to be the deciding factor to determine if our little experiment with Democracy is going to survive. It is that serious.

[bobthedrummer]

21. This latest publication {while more specific} puts a new perspective

to some of the things that Rumsfeld was babbling about during a visit to Iraq. Rumsfeld was talking about Europe to members of the 1st Armor at lunch there one day.

Here's the transcript of that luncheon chatter-what do you think?
http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030906-secdef0654.html

[G_j]

22. thanks for the link

very interesting :-(
I'll have to read it more closely later.

[G_j]

24. anyone hear these guys on NPR

morning addition? (Thurs.)

These maniacs are dangerous!! How could any journalist interview these people without asking them exactly what makes them different from the Nazis.

Hearing these monsters talk is genuinely scary! :scared:

[kaitykaity]

25. No, but I saw 'em on Charlie Rose.

Perle started whining about how 'uneducated' and
unsalvageable the French were, so I tuned in and
out. Knew what they were going to say anyway.
Rose gave them the whole hour. :puke: