A disgusting video that I just saw

[Roon]

Warning, very graphic. Good Lord, what are we becoming?
Truman must be turning in his grave.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5365.htm

[Nomad559]

1. Disgusting

Yes, It Is disgusting, someone posted It here last night.

[Roon]

3. ooops!

my apologies for the dupe, could someone direct me to the thread on this?

[Wonk]

5. links here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=869113
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=879709
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=876105

[Roon]

9. Thank You

I guess I should pull myself away from LBN every once in awhile :dunce:

[Moderator]

21. locking

this is a dupe. Please continue the discussion here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=869113

Thanks

[slor]

2. To think those guys...

are gonna come back here after doing things like that is scary.

[rudeboy666]

4. That's war

...what do you expect?

Kisses and flowers?

That Iraqi could have potentially killed one of us(he would, if he had the chance).

Ugly? Yes.

But that is war.

Kill or be killed.

War is fucking ugly and destructive.

That is why we must avoid it!

[Terwilliger]

6. yep...dont want the sheep American people seeing this

they may not want to support war no more no more, and the powers that be won't like that because war is good for business

[rudeboy666]

15. 100% correct

....we want a clean and sanitized war.

And the people will get it.

It would be great if people actually saw the realities of war. But you know that most will not see it.

Me: I am personally disgusted with that video. However, if I was in their shoes(they are just pawns by the way), I would have killed or be killed.

[wtmusic]

10. That wounded Iraqi

lying 40 yards away potentially could have killed one of us.

And we potentially, could have taken him prisoner and saved his life.

Nah, it's just easier (and more fun) to off him.

[Tyler Durden]

12. NO, that is NOT WAR...

Killing wounded fighters is a WAR CRIME.

That wounded Iraqi wasn't going to kill ANYONE. Shooting wounded and ENJOYING IT is an activity of NAZIS.

May the Gods forgive them.

HM1 Tyler Durden, USN/USMC.

[wtmusic]

14. Thank you Tyler

for the excellent response, and for serving our country.

[arcane1]

19. "he would, if he had the chance"

can't say I blame him at this point.... If the Iraqi army were doing this in MY hometown, I would also kill them, if I had the chance


perspective, man

[The Night Owl]

20. Hang on a second...

War or no war, there is no justification for executing an incapacited combatant.

[benddem]

7. Can we make sure * Bush sees this?

This is truly disgusting.
:puke:

[Cooley Hurd]

8. Thi can't be shown enough!

Utterly disturbing... Also, see this thread...

[Deja Q]

11. The toy soldier's comments to the video are far more interesting...

Personally, the responder who said whatever about Iraqis killing 200 soldiers is irrelevant and outrageous, as is his bushlicking* propaganda puke. US had no fucking right to invade in the first place, bush* lied just so he could get off on his own violent anti-christian nature, and we killed and hurt over 10,000 of Iraqis. Damn right they have a right to fight back. He claims the website is one sided. Well, no shit, Sherlock! This responder is just as one sided, if not more so for blindly believing and supporting the lying sack of shit*.

Wow, did I dis an American solider? Nope. I insulted an unthinking animal-like programmed thug, bought in by lies and deception and using what the public had conjured up ("liberation") to justify it. But of course these other countries have done nasty things to us. We've done nasty things to them too. Maybe we're ALL animal-like thugs, let's put this into grand perspective here.

Hell, I don't see any hope anymore for humanity. May humanity's eradication be quick and painless, though karma is not going to pay us with kindness...

[bpilgrim]

13. Afghanistan 'Highlight Reel'

AC130 Gunship 2002
http://globalfreepress.net/movs/afghanistan/ac130/AC130_web.mov 10.7M
(QT required: http://apple.com/quicktime/download )

peace

[arcane1]

17. ah, yes, I recall this video all too well!

using million-dollar guided missiles to blow up unarmed, individual Afghanis...

yee-hah! Your tax dollars at work, folks...

[rudeboy666]

16. KILL or BE KILLED

.....I am pretty sure that the Iraqis feel the same way.

If they mutilate and drag one of our soldiers in the dirt, I would understand them. THAT is war.

Geneva conventions be damned.

[Malva Zebrina]

18. for some reason cannot get the video so do not see it

but the commentary on that site is interesting and very disconcerting. Oh OK, now I did get it--just took a while to download. Such a clean, all American look on that marines face who said "let's do it again". He did not look devious or demented--he looked normal, fresh faced and young. No doubt about it--he was thrilled that they could kill the wounded Iraqi

Transcript:

CNN Presents: Fit To Kill

Aired October 26, 2003 - 20:00 ET

CROWLEY: Wounded, another Iraqi writhes on the ground next to his gun. The Marines kill him -- then cheer.

RIDDLE: Like, man, you guys are dead now, you know. But it was a good feeling.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fire!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah!

CROWLEY: When the battle is over and you are still standing, the adrenalin rush is huge.

RIDDLE: I mean, afterwards you're like, hell, yeah, that was awesome. Let's do it again.

CROWLEY: Inexplicable to some, but not to generations of veterans. Continued Here


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Convention (I) for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field. Geneva, 12 August 1949.

Comments from readers regarding this video.

Tom- I believe the way you present the 'shocking' video you have on your website is very irresponsible and inflammatory. The very fact that it is presented without amplifying remarks or background information, coupled with how you use 'execute' to describe the situation, illustrates how naive you are to military operations.

The current policy in Iraq is to SHOOT ON SIGHT ANYBODY emplacing IEDs....yes, those nasty little roadside bombs that have killed almost 200 of our service personnel. But of course, given the very OBVIOUS leftist slant of your website, it is apparent that you wouldn't see fit to report all the facts, choosing instead to attempt to use such media
to advance your faltering liberal agenda, rather than condemn a terrorist agenda. Where on your website do you report the assassinations by terrorists who only hope to get their country back up and running, or the indiscriminate bombings that kill innocent, non-combatant Iraqis?

Forget the fact that we have build hundreds of schools, enabled democracy, re-energized the Iraqi economy, or that Saddam killed tens of thousands of people (to name a few). According to your website, a day doesn't go by when we aren't killing Afghani children or conspiring with the Israelis to take over the world.

Too bad the economy is up, and the Dems best hopes lie w/ Howard Dean...Good luck with that! Bush in 2004!

SEMPER FI!

Capt. James Kimber
United States Marine Corps
Training & Education Command
Reconnaissance & Special Skills Officer
COMM: [phone] DSN 278
FAX: [phone]
EMAIL: [email protected]


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I cannot believe you want us to believe that the video you show of the US
Marines killing that man is anything but a propaganda issue? Why didn't you
include the part where this character was laying in ambush for the Marine
patrol to wlak by? Why didn't you show the part where he is rigging an
improvised explosive device to go off the next convoy that drives by it?

What you have shown here is prue drivell. I am outraged that you have the
audactiy to put this on your site. I am further embarassed if someone
actually believes that "their" Marines would do such a thing to a person who
didn't deserve it. Don't give me "Well, thats for courts to decide."
argument. This is a battle zone and you have ZERO idea of what these 18-22
year oldss are having to deal with on a daily basis.

I am appalled and dismayed at your lack of support for our troops, my
brothers in arms, that are out there. You say "I support the troops, not
the mission." But when you show vulgarity like that on your site, you have
no support for them at all.

Obviously, your kids are not in the military.

CWO2 Bryan M Simon, USMC
Combat Cargo Officer USS Juneau
E-Mail: [email protected]
Siprnet: [email protected]

Yup--what have we become?