More 9/11 conspiracy stuff -- more grist for the mill!

[Emillereid]

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Stefan Grossmann On Cloakanddagger Radio Show

How Military Hightech Was Used On 9-11-2001


The author of this website, Dr. Stefan Grossmann, was on Lenny Bloom’s Cloakanddagger Radio Show last night (www.cloakanddagger.ca). For one hour, he informed listeners in Canada and the northern U.S.A. how military hightech was used on 9-11-2001 in order to simulate realistic-looking holographic projections of airplanes into the World Trade Center. While he was looking at engineering graphics of the event on his computer screen, he verbally informed the listeners:
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Watch this CNN video of the second impact (WTC south tower) in slow motion – the ENTIRE plane including the wing tips etc. “glide” unobstructed (despite steel walls!) into the building – they do not interact with the solid steel frame that surrounds the building – no jolt, no wobble – the explosion is delayed after the impact despite the fact that the wing tanks of the alleged Boeing 767-200 are full of explosive kerosene and “fly through” that what is functionally a solid steel wall. (A note aside: a single brick falling on a wing let the space shuttle crash!)


Premise a:            The hole in the WTC south tower is considerably smaller than the alleged Boeing 767-200.




Premise b:           The CNN video (and other videos by ABC, Spiegel TV etc.) show that the ENTIRE plane “glided” into the building.

Conclusion:          Before the eyes of millions of people, the outer wings (at least a total of 30 feet), the tail rudder and the tail winglets of the alleged “airplane” flew through the steel perimeter wall of the WTC2 tower WITHOUT LEAVING A HOLE! Physics mandates us to believe: the alleged “airplane” was no solid object. It was a hologram! The Pentagon has “airborne holographic projector” technology mounted on a cruise missile, http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/chap03/b5_6.htm (details were declared a military secret in 1994, more about this in my writings). The hole lets in a cruise missile which was flying inside a much bigger hologram, disguising it as a “hijacked passenger plane”.
Further, the video shows us the “lightning beep” flashing up just before the plane’s nose glides into the wall of steel perimeter columns. This is a scalar weapon (see Col. Thomas E. Bearden at http://www.cheniere.org/books/analysis/history.htm and elsewhere on his huge web site) like it was used in Bagdhad 2003 out of a U.S. tank to melt cars and buses (see report at http://www.rense.com/general40/secret.htm ). This “scalar weapon” is an advanced laser-analogous weapon that can melt steel in an instant. It created the “hole” to let a disguised cruise missile in the building. The hole was not created by a solid object. (The real hijacked planes were exchanged against the flying objects long before coming close to the buildings, see http://www.serendipity.li/wot/plissken.htm and http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm.

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I have no opinion about this or any other 9/11 theory -- except that they are interesting, even if one considers their proliferation as no more than a comment on the depth of distrust of the Bush administration.




 







 

[spychoactive]

1. interesting...

i always thought that orchestrating/helping whoever did this was never beyond the shrub and his empire of lies...

food for thought...thanks

one love
spike

[aquart]

2. Breathtakingly stupid.

And the point would be........?

[Nlighten1]

5. Indeed...

This has to be the most fantastic description I have heard yet about 9/11.

[brainshrub]

12. This "3-D Hologram" theory is dumber than this banana:

But at least the banana is fun to look at.

[Nlighten1]

20. LOL!

[Racenut20]

3. And the real planes went where ??????

[brainshrub]

10. Into the 42nd dimention!

Soon after take-off, the planes were hijacked by Elvis look-alikes. The passengers where let off at Area 51 and brainwashed into thinking they were fry-cooks at Burger King.

HERE'S THE EVIDENCE!!!:

http://load.pquinn.com/binaries/fries/

[el_gato]

4. i would say this is probably a red herring to add discredited info

and associate it with legitimate questions about 9/11, of which there are many

[Minstrel Boy]

11. absolutely agree

Let's have our guard up, keep a clear head, and not get suckered by their disinformation. They would like to hide the truth in plain sight in a web of lies. We shouldn't enable them.

[lefty_mcduff]

19. Complete Disinfo....

Trot out the weirdos and flake theories so that the legit questions about 9/11 get thrown out with the bath water.

[wahoo]

6. What the hell?

As awful as the attacks were, they were real.

Try telling the widows, widowers, children and parents of the victims that their loved ones didn't die... they were just used in an illusion.

[Old and In the Way]

7. I remember watching that flying hologram (175) hit the WTC

How was this hologram constructed? Did they explain that?

Actually, the walls were literally reinforced glass with steel carriers ringing the perimeter of the floor. Each floor was over 1" thick concrete (maybe 2 ft, can't remember).

We don't see too many airliner jets crash into buildings and caught on tape, so wouldn't it be more likely that such an event would appear surreal given our lack of visual experience in seeing this kind of crash?

Really, this sounds like some serious disinformation being spread.

[Minstrel Boy]

8. we 9/11 skeptics have enough trouble receiving a fair hearing,

without taking on added baggage like "airborne holographic projections."

MIHOPer here, but this is a preposterous flight of fancy.

[Dr.Phool]

9. I wonder

How they managed to fake the video taken on the ground by the film makers who were doing a documentary on the fire dept, and were lucky enough to get a shot of the first plane hitting the WTC.:argh:

[spychoactive]

13. the wings do not collapse

i did watch the link to said footage...i see a planes wings passing thru reinforced concrete and steel...i always thought the entire thing looked like special effects anyway...

the buildings tragically came down, that much is real...but how? by what hands? to whose knowledge?

as implausible as any conspiracy theory may sound, the people getting the entire blame for this pulling this off alone is just as implausible...

pray for peace
spike

[MoonRiver]

14. What about eyewitnesses with cameras in NYC who photographed the plane?

I'm a LIHOP bordering on MIHOP, but this makes no sense.

[nannygoat]

24. What about all the people IN the planes?

Where are they now?

[HFishbine]

15. Insulting Crapolla

"realistic-looking holographic projections"

This kind of crapolla is insulting to the families and friends of people who lost their lives on 9-11. It's complete and utter bullshit. It exposes the people who propose such notions and those who find them "interesting" as intellectually vacuous.

Furthermore, it damages the effort to examine the truth behind 9.11 by giving credence to those who think anything other than the "official" story is a lunatic conspiracy theory. For Christ's sake people -- think!

[Snow]

23. Sheesh! Think indeed!

That is not how you argue against something. You take a look at the evidence including the video, decide whether you see what the promoter of the theory sees - if you don't explain what you see that's different - and if you see the same thing, then you raise alternative explanations. Otherwise you tend to sound close-minded. Telling us a story is crappola, insults the deceased, complete and utter bullshit, and detracts from other stories is not the way to advance the counter views and in fact lowers your credibility.

[nostamj]

16. finally !!!

something SO ridiculous it makes the 'no pentagon plane' theory seem plausible.

so, to recap:

the pentagon was hit by a missle after the passengers were off-loaded into Flight 93 and,

after the North tower was hit by one plane, and after the second plane was followed by radar until it hit the South, but that was really a HOLOGRAM and there was TWO sets of explosives, one to simulate an airliner crashing into the building and one to bring down the tower...

[pretzel4gore]

17. it doesn't matter who or how they car bombed the wtc

what matters is they stole the 2000 election. Simple as pie...

[CaptainClark23]

21. I disagree.

It matters very much to me precisely who is responsible for killing 3000 of my neighbors. ESPECIALLY if those responsible were those who also have taken a scred vow to defend this nation. It matters a hell of alot.

That anyone should say "it doesn't matter" is incomprehensible. Maybe if it was your neighborhood, you'd feel differently.

And whats this about car bombs?

Enjoy your pie.

[LifeDuringWartime]

18. where can i buy one of those hologram projectors?

lets see what happens when it looks like godzilla is walking through downtown tokyo

[Gringo]

22. So stupid - this stuff is put out 2 make ALL conspiracy theories seem nuts

The other one, that it was a missile & not a plane that hit the pentagon, is equally stupid. If they used holograms and missiles, they would have to go to the trouble of hiding the now-missing planes, and "disappearing" all of the passengers. If they used holograms, WHERE are the planes? WHERE are the passengers? There are a lot of victims' families who would love to hear the answer.


It's sad that nonsense like this comes out and taints the very real questions surrounding 9-11, and the Bush administration's non-response to it.

[Rex]

25. Do we even have the adv tech to pull off something like that?

I've seen holograms...in SciFi movies! I believe in a few of the more zany 911 co-theories, but I have my doubt about us having the technology to pull this off.

A question I have is was the plane traveling faster than the frames of whatever video camera was shooting it? That could explain the wings disappearing into the building.

[Emillereid]

27. Anybody see a program a while back on the Discovery Science channel

about the "black' defense budget. It was done by an English fellow who was trying to track down billions of dollars that go to super advanced weaponry ideas. I remember him talking to the head of one of the big defense firms who said people had no idea how way out there our technology is and suggested that it was more advanced that regular people could even conceive of.

[Emillereid]

26. Not that I believe this or any other 9/11 theory --

but I think the idea here is that the holographic projection was supposed to have masked a real cruise missile.

It's the sociological angle I find intriguing -- that once again the establishment answer to what happened leaves so many holes that people's creative minds begin to percolate all kinds of weird stuff. Just as the Warren commission report dropped the ball in many ways that 40 years later conspiracy theories are still surfacing. And the Warren Commission looks exhaustive and transparent in comparison to the secrecy surrounding 9/11 by the Bushits.