Seems odd to consider Bill Clinton and James Baker for same cabinet role.

[madfloridian]

I heard that this morning on MSNBC, that Kerry is doing this. I do not have warm fuzzy feelings about James Baker, I just do not. I don't remember the title of the position, but had to do with foreign policy. They said it was to include the other side as well...but Baker?

[BearFlagDemocrat]

1. James Baker III?

Wasn't he one of the principals behind Election Theft 2000?

[Walt Starr]

6. Yep, Kerry fucked up big time with the Dem base on that stupid statement

At least with me, anyway.

[Hep]

2. Maybe they could share the job.

Odd Couple 2004!

[Khephra]

3. For more info see these threads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=815099&mesg_id=815099

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=250025

[blm]

4. I disagree with Kerry on even "considering" Baker for bipartisanship show.

But, I am laughing at those who saw no wrong in Dean's remarks on Hardball about Bush1's "excellent" foreign policy when it was Baker who implemented that foreign policy. Dean also said Powell would be a great Sec. of State for anyone and should have been listened to on Iraq when Powell is the one who promised the Dems in committee that they would build a coalition and use the IWR as a coercive tool FIRST and that use of force was TRULY a last resort.


http://www.msnbc.com/news/1000254.asp

 MATTHEWS: Do you have any confidence that this president is calling the shots?
       DEAN: I think the president does make the last decision. I do think that. I think he gets a lot of advises. The problem is that the people he gets advice from are people he ought to not be paying so much attention to. If he paid more attention to Colin Powell and less attention to Dick-
       Donald Rumsfeld, we wouldn’t be in Iraq right now.
       (APPLAUSE)
       MATTHEWS: Do you think he would be a good secretary of state for you, Colin Powell?
       DEAN: I think he would be a good secretary of state, period. He is a loyal person. He knows, what he is doing. And he has what-let’s get back to the question...
       MATTHEWS: Do you agree with him on foreign policy, Colin Powell?
       DEAN: In many cases I do. I read his books. I like them a lot. You don’t go into a place with no exit strategy. We clearly went into Iraq with not exit strategy.
       Let me answer the question about Kerry’s comments about my foreign policy.
       MATTHEWS: Sure.
       DEAN: Kerry, Gephardt, Lieberman, Edwards and Wes Clark at first, all of us were in favor of this resolution that was a preemptive unilateral attacks on Iraq. I was not. We all had information from the papers. They presumably had some intelligence information, with the exception of Wes, who may have had some or not. He was out of the government by them. I came to a different conclusion because a lot of what is required of a president for foreign policy is judgment and patience. If I came to a different conclusion than they did, given the amount of trouble we’re now in Iraq, given the fact that al Qaeda is in Iraq now and it wasn’t there before, it seems to me that their kind of foreign policy experience is not the kind we want in the White House and mine is.
       

          MATTHEWS: That’s it? You are a cold man.
       George Bush Sr., Herbert Walker Bush?
       DEAN: Excellent on foreign policy. Not to great on domestic policy.

[Hep]

10. Even Kerry threads have to be about Dean

Nice job! And people wonder why Dean get's all of the attention. It's because even Kerry fans don't want to talk about Kerry. Think about it.

[Khephra]

11. Forget Baker's hand on foreign policy

(and yes, I cringed at some of that.)

But Baker? Baker? Even suggesting him for a job is just wrong on so many levels that it's silly. That's a slap in the face of anyone who thinks the 2000 election was SNAFUed by the GOP.

Or, as I put it in another thread:

Baker, the Bush "Janitor", is going to just decide to do the right thing for Kerry as President, after having defeated a Bush family member? That's just like exposing your throat to you deadliest foe.

[Freddie Stubbs]

5. Not really

Baker has lot of experience with Mideast diplomacy. He was the principle arcitech behind the US military coalition of Operation Desert Storm.

[sangh0]

7. Misleading subject line

"special ambassador to the Mideast" is NOT a "cabinet role"

Yeesh! Today, I received an email from Bob Barr complaining about how liberals are ruining the school system. He mentioned Leno's routine where he asks people on the street about politics. He refers to one where most couldn't name any cabinet members.

And now you mistake "special ambassador to the Mideast" for a place in the cabinet

[madfloridian]

9. Misleading because I did not know....only heard on TV...

That is why I am asking. I did not hear the name of the position.

[madfloridian]

8. Thanks. He is defending the Saudis against the 9/11 families.

I was really surprised to hear that Kerry would consider him. How could Kerry reverse Bush's course in the Middle East by appointing Baker???

Stunned.

Did not see the other threads, thanks for listing.

[el_gato]

12. they are all servants of the elite