Question about Davis recall election..

[nini]

I understand there will be 2 questions on the ballot.. 1 being if Davis should be recalled and 2 who should the replacement be.

What I'm not sure of... Does question 1 need a greater than 50% result to recall him?

If you say no to the recall, are you not supposed to vote for the list of people in the replacement group? Or - will Davis be listed in that group?

Or does saying no to the recall mean you vote for Davis?


So, if 40% say no to the recall, then the other repukes assholes share the remaining 60% with none of them getting more than the NOs 40% - does DAvis stay in?

I have no idea if I'm making sense here.. so if you're able to get an idea of what I'm getting at know the answer.. I greatly appreciate it.

thanks

[ronnykmarshall]

1. Here's what I know

It will be a two part vote. One a vote yes or no to the recall. Yes vote will recall Davis and no vote to keep him in office.

The second part will be a list of possible replacements.


If the No votes have the majority then Davis stays in office and second part of the ballot will be null and void.

If the Yes votes have the marjority then Davis is removed and the top vote getter is the Gov. (regardless if that person recieved less than 50% ... no run off)

Here is where people are confused. Even if you vote NO you CAN vote for the replacement and it will be counted.

[CarlBallard]

3. Could Davis put his name on the recal balot?

That would make it easy for him get a plurality if there were 4 or 5 Republicans running.

[CountJared]

11. Could Davis put his name on the recal ballot?

Obviously I'm not much for posting, but I can't seem to find an answer to this question anywhere. Can Davis' name be on the list of candidates for governor?

[newyawker99]

16. Hi CountJared!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[nini]

4. thanks..

so I can at least vote against that bastard Issa too.

[Clete]

7. Leave it up to California to obfuscate what should be

a simple election process.

[okieinpain]

15. okay, so what if he's recalled but he still get's the most votes

.

[Clete]

17. Another election will cost Californians 35 to 60

million dollars. The budget shortage in California is what started the recall to being with. I hate Issa and the GOP elephants from the WH he rode in with. I wish there was a way we could sue him to make him pay for this.

[fob]

2. As I understand it,

If the Recall Yes/No turns up with NO at 50% + 1 vote, the 2nd question(replacement) is moot.

However if the Recall comes up Yes 50% + 1 vote, THEN the results of the 2nd question is turned to for the replacement. Here's where it get's hairy.

The "candidate" with the highest # of votes is the Governor!

It doesn't matter what percent of voters they get, only that they get a plurality of the votes. There may be so many candidates that the "winner" may have only 10 - 20% of the votes!

[Woodstock]

5. Why in the world did this law ever get enacted this way?

How absurd - someone with 10% of the votes in a state is governor?

The Daily Show was right - this is a case of, "Gee, someone is governor, and he isn't in my party, and that's not right!" so let's have another go at the election!

[nini]

6. amazing isnt' it?

someone can end up governor with 20% of the vote.

Excuse me - but if this is democracy I'm in the twilight zone.

[Woodstock]

8. it sounds like the Mob

they don't call them the Bush Crime Family for nothing

[ps1074]

10. no, you're wrong

Imagine only 30% of the voters turn out for the recall. Of them 40 vote NO and 60% vote YES.

Then from the list of lets say 6 candidates results are as follows:

Candidate 1 - 25%
Candidate 2 - 22%
Candidate 3 - 18%
Candidate 4 - 15%
Candidate 5 - 10%
Candidate 6 - 10%

Candidate 1 wins. Now, take your calculator out and do the math. If I am correct the newly elected governor will have won with the whooping 5% of the California votes.

[TahitiNut]

13. Not really. Nope.

Assuming that all "Yes" and "No" voters also vote on the replacement candidate slate, then 30% x 25% = 7.5% ... where 40% of those 'votes' are their second choices. Thus, the new "governor" would take office as the 'first choice' of 4.5% (30% x 60% x 25%) of all the eligible voters and the 'second choice' of 3.0% (30% x 40% x 25%) of the all the eligible voters.

[rogerashton]

9. Well, well.

Recall is a democratic idea, one of the populist reforms.

But plurality rule is the opposite. Runoffs are also a populist reform.

Runoffs don't always work. Louisiana has runoffs -- that's how they got a choice between the crook and the neo-Nazi a few years back. Neither was supported by more than 1/4 of the electorate, but the sane vote was divided about 5 ways in the initial election. Preference voting/instant runoffs would work better, since people could put the sane person of their choice first, followed by the other sane people they would rather have than the crooks and nuts.

However, this could go the other way. If there are 4-5 Pubs, you could get Ariana Huffington, or a Green, or both, with, say, 1/3 or 1/4 of the total vote. This could backfire on the Pubs in a big way.

And if the law does permit Davis to be on the ballot, he could be recalled with 75% and re-elected with 25%. Wouldn't that be fun?

[TahitiNut]

12. See

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=80087&mesg_id=80087&page=

[CountJared]

14. Question answered

Thanks for the link. No, Davis cannot be considered as the replacement.