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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 03:59 PM
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medical bill passes 61 votes
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:01 PM
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1. Well, the motion to waive CBA re: the medicare bill passed 61-39
with 60 required.

Of course, it comes to about the same thing....:(
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:07 PM
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2. How did they vote???
I want to know how my senators voted. Medicare is dead. This is discusting.
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Mentalist Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:14 PM
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8. How exactly
is medicare "dead". And please, be specific as I do not see how this bill will "kill" medicare.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:36 PM
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16. There are a number of ways
Most importantly, the plan is designed so that the private insurers are allowed to negotiate prices with the drug companies, and Medicare is prohibited from doing so.

At the end of the day Medicare will end up with the highest drug prices, no doubt inflated to cover whatever is negotiated with the privates. Think "cost plus contract".

I could give more but need my web browser back for company business.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:16 PM
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10. The vote hasn't been posted yet
But if you told me who your Senators are, I could probably remember how they voted.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:28 PM
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11. Her it is
Hollings of SC. Forget about Linsley the ass kisser.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:37 PM
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17. Hollings voted No, Graham (SC) voted Aye (n/t)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:30 PM
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13. Cloture vote here:
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:09 PM
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3. I though that was just one of four . . .
. . points of order raised by Daschle. Or did I miss something?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:10 PM
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4. How many more procedural hurdles do we have left?
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:10 PM
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5. There has been NO vote on the bill itself yet.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:11 PM
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6. They haven't voted yet on the bill
it was on a point of order that they voted, which was defeated 61\39.
they vote is still to be had, unless another p.o.o is introduced.

dp
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:12 PM
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7. P.O.O. for a piece of poo
ain't that poetic
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:14 PM
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9. Are there other points of order? This one has sure been a tragedy
I wonder why the music--is everyone gone out to dinner?
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:29 PM
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12. not sure why the music
perhaps somebody is swearing..
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:33 PM
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15. classical music is always played
during a quorum call.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:09 PM
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18. I'd love for C-SPAN
to one time play the Sex Pistols or something like that.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:32 PM
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14. they were in a Quoram Call (sp)
Edited on Mon Nov-24-03 04:34 PM by maddezmom
a delay tactic...hence the music

Now Dayton is up speaking.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:16 PM
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19. Okay this pisses the hell out of me...
I can accept an overwhelming amount of dems holding their noses and voting for this legislation because it makes them look good back at home. I can't however stand 22 dems and Jeffords of all people voting for cloture. It's one thing to not participate it's another to shut down the efforts of your own side.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:21 PM
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20. The Democrats
should have their asses voted out of office! ANY person who voted for this should be given the BOOT!
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