Huge (5 page) story on Clark in Sunday NY Times...

[chiburb]

Very balanced, much focus on his 'complexity'. My favorite snip:

An hour later, he fielded a question at a campaign stop full of jovial buzz in Bow, N.H., and there it was again: what about these generals taking him apart?

Afterward in the car, relaxing with his advisers, he said: "At least I don't have to worry about `Seven Days in May.' I thought if I ran they might think, `The generals are taking over the country.' They're not. They're all voting on the other side."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/23/politics/campaigns/23CLAR.html?hp=&pagewanted=print&position=

[pruner]

1. I think this is part of an in-depth series they're doing

there was a 5 page article about Gephardt last week.

I think there's also a 4-5 page article on Edwards in tomorrow's paper.

[slinkerwink]

5. did they already do one on Dean?

[pruner]

6. I'm not sure…

though I'm positive they've already given him more than 5 pages of coverage.

:)

[xultar]

2. Nice, Here's my favorite snip..

---Snip---
There was a man outside a restaurant in Nashua. He wanted to shake hands, have a word. His handlers told General Clark he did not have to, the man was maybe a little mixed up, maybe not all there.

He shook the man's hand and locked eyes with him, and the man told him about serving in the Air Force, believing in the military, and now being a cabdriver, telling him which cab company he drove for and the number of his cab — too much information.

General Clark listened and smiled. Time ticked by, and then he thanked the man and said he needed his vote.

The man saluted. The general saluted.

The man raised his fist in the air, and pumped. The general raised his fist in the air, and pumped.

---End---

[annxburns]

4. Oh, okay, as long as we are playing ....

.. this is my favorite ....

"Always, he thought unconventionally. General Scales, his classmate, offered this: "They say in the military that you bring to your boss three solutions: one that's too hot, one that's too cold and one that's just right. That's called the Goldilocks solution. You have an answer and you steer him to it.

"Wes doesn't recognize the Goldilocks solution. He'll say: `Well maybe we shouldn't eat any porridge. And why are there bears in here? And who is this Goldilocks character wandering around? And by the way, what is the whole purpose of fairy tales?' And this drives some people nuts.""

Clark really comes across as an innovative and creative thinker in this article .... I think our current world situation and the war on terrorism could use some non-Goldilocks solutions. I have no idea how we are going to get out of this mess ...

[Spazito]

3. Excellent, indepth article

very fair, I think.

[kalashnikov]

7. He was presented in a very favorable light

[Skwmom]

8. I do not agree with this part:

"Not polished at self-concealment, he has been dogged by opponents' suggestions that he has vacillated on the Iraq war. In some early commentary he applauded the triumph of the troops, and he blundered by saying once that he probably would have voted to authorize war. But people who saw him in private settings before the war say he always had misgivings about it."

He stated he would have voted for a resolution with gave Bush LEVERAGE with Iraq and the UN. In addtion, he is on the record MANY TIMES stating he was against the war (not just in private settings). The biggest issue in the article and it's totally incorrect.

[FrenchieCat]

9. I just bought the new GQ Magazine....

My husband likes GQ anyway......cause he likes to dress...

But anyhow, theres a 7 pages article about the General there...titled "GENERAL ELECTRIC"....it's like the best article that I have read about Clark....6 picture spread...getting off an airplane, pics of Gert, pics of him in uniform and one when was at West point.

This article really gets personal with the General. Go buy that December issue with Uma Thurman on the cover.

Here's a little excerpt..."He's not big enough to be a general, He stands about five ten but looks shorter because he's so thightly muscled. A coiled force rather than some big beefy four-star guy. He moves with an athlete's grace, the body always centered, the step light. His hands are graceful also, almost delicate. his voice has that command force but is low-key and congenial. The smile flashes so often you want to swat it at times, but still, the general manages to put people at ease."

But here's the ending paragraph: "They will continue to spin columns asking, does he have what it takes, can he beat President Bush, is he nothing but a resume? Some claim he's just a stalking horse for the Clintons. Some say he's just running to be vice-president. Some say he's a nobody general who will fade once the real Democrats get a good look at him.

Maybe, but I'll tell you what I think. He's running for president, and he is not used to losing. And if he gets the nomination, he'll go up and down this country and beat on President Bush like a drum. He'll do 2,000 yards of swimming every morning; he'll rappel down any cliff he needs to; he will shake off any small-arms fire as if it were a swarm of gnats. And he'll get better at the game each and every day. He hates to lose. And he doesn't run from fights. And even if he's never played the game, he's never a beginner at anything.
Dismissed."

No link...as I typed this here straight from the magazine.


WE WELCOME YOU TO THE WES WING"

[Spazito]

10. Thanks!

What you have posted has convinced me to go and buy the magazine!

[FrenchieCat]

12. Plus GQ Magazine

is only $3.50...and you get 290 pages.....one article is called "look sharp! How to find clothes that fit"......it's a man's magazine of course...but plenty of scantily glad high fashion models...I guess you could say that Wes is a man's man, a Soldier's soldier...and a Women's fantasy!

[chiburb]

11. OT... You were right

I shouldn't have jumped into your CSPAN thread with talk of the New Yorker article. I was sincere in that I had just read it, and thought it was worth mentioning/required reading. My intention was to follow DU guidelines and not post a new thread if an existing one would suffice. I also didn't realize that the article was a week old.

That said, you Clarkies ARE ultra-sensitive to perceived slights. Of course so are the Deanies, the Kucinichies, et al. Like I said, I'll talk to y'all after the primaries...

[FrenchieCat]

13. It's all good.....

because when (I like to think positive) Wes wins the monination....we will have to be on our Ps & Qs and in battle mode to fight the goddamn Repugs. So you gave us good practice. Sorry if you were jumped...it's that we have been jumped quite a bit since Wes got into this thing..
But now we are ready, armed and dangerous!:)

Where are you going anyway?

HEY, I JUST DID MY 1000 POST!!!!:party: ......IT'S A PARTY....WE'RE GONNA PARTY LIKE IT'S 2004.....WE GONNA KICK ASS AND TAKE SOME NUMBERS.....CAUSE WES WILL WIN US BACK THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!:party:
:toast:

[chiburb]

15. Not going anywhere, just going to avoid

Candidate threads. I know I posted this one, but I will not participate otherwise. Don't get me wrong... I respect what you (and others) do for your candidate. Lord knows partisans like you are needed to fight off the same predictable posters that sound like refugees from FR.
Fyi, I'm ABBEL...

:-)

[Tatiana]

14. Ok, OK... MY favorite part:

He was asked about how his mind worked.

"I always had good spatial orientation," he said. "I always saw big patterns in life and how things would move."

He offered two examples. The first was from high school. The math class was trying to figure out how to integrate x sin(x). The textbook was silent on it. "All of a sudden I realized how to integrate x sin(x)," he said. "And I was so incredibly happy."

(me: LMAO! What a brainiac!)

Then he described a military exercise in Germany, a complex assignment involving penetrating woods that might be impenetrable, dealing with an enemy's reserves, scrambling radio signals. He sketched an imaginative plan on the back of an envelope, and quickly prevailed. It was suggested he had to have been cheating to win so swiftly. It was run again. Same result.

***Sigh*** He's so damn SMART!

[FrenchieCat]

16. It's amazing, how smart he is!!!

truly, truly wonderfully intelligent....what a contrast with *!