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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:54 PM
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Norm Coleman "Iraq war is 'just', 'wise' and 'the right thing to do'"
That weasel Coleman has hit a new low. It's amazing he can speak at all what with his lips so firmly glued to Bush*'s butt.

This if off the Minnesota Public Radio website

http://news.mpr.org/headlines/#2

Coleman defends U.S. progress in Iraq
Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., took to the floor of the Senate Wednesday to say that America should stay the course in Iraq.

Coleman said not to do so would give terrorists a victory of unimagined proportions. Calling the war with Iraq "just," "wise," and the "right thing to do," Coleman spoke out against those who are criticizing U.S. policy.

"I think it's important to come to the floor of the Senate to reaffirm the justice and purpose of American and coalition efforts in Iraq and my only regret Mr. President, is that it's necessary to do so," Coleman said. "We have a great tradition of dissent in America and we need people to ask the tough questions. But just because we value dissent doesn't make dissent right, doesn't make it just."

Coleman called the loss of U.S. lives tragic, but said soldiers who have died fighting there did not lose their lives in vain.

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This, of course, resulted in my weekly email to Norm. He has a list of topics you can choose from for the email's subject line. He seems to have removed "Iraq" from the list so this week I picked "Crime".

In additon to my rant, which included telling him that I'd agree with him if I were the CEO of Bechtel. Why, I picked crime for the topic and suggesting he try to read the First Amendment. I included the following quotes. I picked this off DU - but they do bear repeating. Not that they will mean anything to Norm or the lackey that reads my email (he never writes back I don't get it).

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
- President Thomas Jefferson

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from the government.
- Thomas Paine

"A President is impeachable if he attempts to subvert the Constitution".
-- President James Madison

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
- Samuel Adams

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President...To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.".......President Theodore Roosevelt

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.".........Samuel Adams

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:55 PM
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1. at least he's definately getting the boot in 2008
this is why i think senate terms should be shortened to 4 years
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:01 PM
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2. If I have anything to say about it...he's getting out of there in '08
Oh wait, I do!
I live in Minnesota, and I vote.
(If voting is still allowed by '08)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:03 PM
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3. Yeah! WEll, Paul Wellstone wouldn't have thought that!
And Paul's a thousand times better than what's his name.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:05 PM
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4. Good stuff.
Hey Princess,

Good stuff. Coleman is worse than the thorn in my butt. I mailed him a rant/letter a month ago, and the one I received in return yesterday was a "keeper". He is clearly planning on going down with the ship.

Good for you keeping up such regular correspondence with him. He does need to have the facts pointed out to him on a regular basis, a** that he is.

With any luck, he'll be in the minority his last 4 years. And out of a job after that.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:06 PM
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5. Do you have recall in MN?
If so, I have many friends up there who will eager line up to sign the petition!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:26 PM
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8. I believe we only have it for state officials
I was trying to find something on this a while ago and only seemed to apply to the state legislators and offices.

I've been thinking though, seeing as Normie is the senator from Bush*, doesn't that mean Minnesota is entitled to another senator? Every state is suppose to get two.

If I can't find anything else to rant about in next week's email, I think I'll ask Norm about the statement on his homepage. It says something like "As a new senator, I'm looking forward to representing the people of Minnesota." I'll ask him when he plans to start.

How long will it be before he takes out a restraining order on me? Maybe we should start a pool.
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Ein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:09 PM
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6. he is 'blind', 'ignorant' and a 'warmonger'
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:23 PM
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7. No surprise really
:-( About Coleman's typically brainless and utterly loathesome remarks.

Though Norm's comments are disappointing, especially considering everything that's made Bush* look less than, um, pristine... It just defies description.

Norm is a selfish kniving bastard of a lizard. And not in the good sort of way. :-(

I don't know, his using Wellstone's death in the campaign was one thing, saying "I thank god for this opportunity" the day after he 'won' on page 11A of the Star Tribune was another, but his later quote (I forgot but I think he slammed Wellstone, go figure) still tops the cake.

Kniving lizard bastard supporting Bush is to be expected though, the way they felt each other up during the campaigning.

I've written to repukes about their positions on issues (always politely, which is hard to do), and I always get responses written by some slack-jawed aide who can't even write proper sentences using proper grammar. Now I'm not perfect with my own use of the English language, but these responses are utterly unprofessional and if we lived in a society where people cared, NOBODY would be voting for these elephant clowns, who are obviously more concerned about themselves than they are for doing what's right.

And the swing voters of Minnesota are sheer idiots since they allowed Rick Khan to decide for them... :eyes: (Dear Ricky was the imbecile who turned the public Wellstone memorial into a damn political rally which was NOT needed and which will NOT be remembered by the public, especially when the repukes pull the same identical stunt when Reagan snuffs it about a fortnight from the 2004 election! I wonder if the Democrats will point out the parallel when the time comes, too... I rather hope they do and not in a way that makes them look like the devils.)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:38 PM
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11. You are no doubt referring to the weasel's comment
in Rollcall that he's a 99% improvement over Wellstone (no doubt Bush* told him that.)

Don't be too hard on Rick Kahn. If he hadn't made his speech they would have slammed us for what Tom Harkin said (and if it wasn't Harkin it would have been something else.) If worse came to worse the Repukes would have waited and found something about the Central Committee Meeting the night after the memorial when Mondale was endorsed.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 12:49 AM
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13. He IS A 99 Percent Improvement Over Wellstone
If by "improvement" you mean being a smirkfaced, unctuous, ass-kissing monkey-loving little rodent :grr:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:29 PM
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9. If that is so obvious, then why do people have to keep
trying to convince everyone of that "fact".

Nobody had to convince anyone about WWII.

Vietnam tooks years of convincing and in the end nobody bought it.

Bottom line: Unless the country is hard behind a war for open and obvious reasons that don't need to be "sold", don't fucking do it.

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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:33 PM
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10. Jesus God, I detest Norm Coleman
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 08:42 PM by NicoleM
Sounds like it's time to call and yell at a poor staffer again. I don't want get upset when I talk to them, but I can't help it, because I'm talking about that jackass Coleman.

Edit--here is the message I just sent Normie:

"We have a great tradition of dissent in America and we need people to ask the tough questions. But just because we value dissent doesn't make dissent right, doesn't make it just."

I will be calling your office tomorrow and having a lengthy conversation with one of your staffers about this. However, I do feel the need to say right now that this is the stupidest goddamn thing I have ever read. Seriously. Clearly you love George Bush and your political career far more than you love democracy and free speech. But Karl Rove isn't going to be around in 2008. The voters of Minnesota will still be here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:43 PM
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12. Great e-mail!
THanks!! From a New Yorker! :toast:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 12:55 AM
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14. He's a spear-carrying husk; pay him no attention
.
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