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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:35 AM
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Anyone watching Wolfowitz speak?
He's on my TV, but I can't bear to listen to him. Though he seems to be taking questions now, maybe I will listen.

Whoa -- he just batted away the first question (about military trials for Western citizens I think) by saying he would only take questions about his trip. IOW, only questions where he has a prepared line of BS.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:36 AM
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1. i can't believe what i'm hearing
what TRIPE!! :puke:

i honestly feel sick to my stomach
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:42 AM
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2. This is why I have the sound off
I am hoping someone with a stronger stomach is listening and will post the relevant portions.

Watching Rumsfeld and Wolfie and these guys always reminds me that when we elect a President, we better have some idea who they are going to surround themselves with. * is an idiot, but these guys are downright scary.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:45 AM
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4. We welcome any foreign
forces that want to come in and help. Getting those two miserable creatures is helpful. ... Wolfie says troop morale is high.
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:43 AM
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3. "Sometimes its good to have a reputation of being god-like"
he said it just now.
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:46 AM
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5. are you kidding me??
Did he really say that just now?
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:48 AM
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8. Everywhere I went I heard heartwarming
stories from the soldiers about how the Iraqi's appreciate our help. The soldiers said "what's wrong with those people back home?"

You can always go and find somebody who will say that it's tough duty, but the majority of them are spirited, .....

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:50 AM
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9. Who's "god-like"?
The U.S.? I can't believe he'd say that. Raging arrogance. Uggh.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:46 AM
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6. i cannot BELIEVE he said
"people in the middle east will believe anything"


thankfully cnn's barbara starr just called him out on it
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:51 AM
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10. here's just some of the drivel
transcript ((check out what i bolded))

EVENTDATE: 07-23

XXX after a year.

WOLFOWITZ: The entire south and north are impressively stable
and the center is getting better day by day. The public food
distribution is up and running. There is no food crisis.

I might point out, we planned for a food crisis. Fortunately,
there isn't one.

Hospitals nationwide are open. Doctors and nurses are at work.
Medical supply convoys are escorted to and from the warehouses. We
planned for a health crisis; there isn't one.

Oil production has passed the 1-million-barrels-per-day mark. We
planned for the possibility of massive destruction of this resource of
the Iraqi people; we didn't have to do it.

The school year has been salvaged. Schools nationwide have
reopened and final exams are complete.

There are local town councils in most major cities and major
districts of Baghdad, and they are functioning free from Baathist
influence.

There's been a lot of talk that there was no plan. There was a
plan. But as any military officer can tell you, no plan survives
first contact with reality. Inevitably, some of our assumptions
turned out to be wrong.

Fortunately, many things turned out to be much better than our
assumptions, in no small measure, I think, because of a brilliant
military plan that achieved extraordinary surprise.

There is no humanitarian crisis. There is no refugee crisis.
There is no health crisis. There has been minimal damage to
infrastructure -- minimal war damage, lots of regime damage over
decades, but minimal war damage to infrastructure except for
telecommunications, which we had to target.


There's been no environmental catastrophe either from oil well
fires or from dam breaks, and there has been no need for massive oil
field repair.

So, fortunately, much of what we planned for, much of what's
captured in the title of the initial office -- Reconstruction and
Humanitarian Assistance -- what we planned for and budgeted for has
not proved necessary.
But some important assumptions turned out to underestimate the
problem. Some conditions were worse than we anticipated, particularly
in the security area, and there are three.

No army units, at least none of any significant size, came over
to our side so that we could use them as Iraqi forces with us today.

MORE
.ETX
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:47 AM
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7. WHERE ARE ALL THESE FOREIGN TROOPS they keep talking about?
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 10:49 AM by glarius
In all the footage I've seen of the fighting in Iraq, I've seen ONLY British and American troops!...Bush mentioned the 19 countries who are helping in an earlier speech today....WHERE ARE THEY? WHY DON'T WE SEE THEM????
edit--I mean if they really are there, wouldn't you think the USA authorities would be falling all over themselves to get some of them on Camera?
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:52 AM
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11. He's backing off
on showing bodies or pictures of bodies. He said I don't what to talk about that. People are looking into it.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 11:14 AM
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13. We DO too have a coalition..so STOP SAYING THAT....
They contributed quite substantially


Afghanistan ..........rocks
Albania ..............cookies & hackey sacks
Australia ............The 103rd Wombat Division
Azerbaijan ...........party hats
Bulgaria .............marmalade
Cameroon..............koolaid..(stay away from the purple)
Colombia .............do you have to ask???
Costa Rica ...........parrot feathers
Czech Republic .......chessboards..Czechmate
Denmark ..............danish pastries, of course
Dominican Republic ...breadfruit??
El Salvador ..........bananas
Eritrea ..............old food left over from the care packages
Estonia ..............sunflower seeds
Ethiopia .............The Starvin'Marvin Marching Band
Georgia ..............pecans?...oh.. you meant the OTHER Georgia?
Honduras .............monkeys
Hungary ..............the official goulash of GW2
Iceland ..............DUH...Ice, of course, you silly
Italy ................pasta
Japan ................sukiyaki
Kuwait ...............lubrication..(make your own joke here)
Latvia ...............See Lithuania
Lithuania.............See Latvia
Macedonia ............Mace???
Marshall Islands......seashells
Micronesia ...........hula girls??
Mongolia .............mmmmmm.. barbeque??
Netherlands ..........DutchBoy paint???
Nicaragua ............assorted contras
Palau ................more hula girls??
Philippines ..........rusted armament left there from WWII
Poland ...............Kielbasa & sauerkraut
Portugal..............corks
Romania ..............The 144th Dracula Brigade
Rwanda ...............Tutu's
Singapore.............spanking paddles
Slovakia .............stuff they got in the divorce settlement from the Czechs
Solomon Islands ......wisdom??
South Korea ..........100 year old kimchi
Spain ................the Nina, the Pinta & the SantaMaria
Turkey ...............mmmmm ...stuffing....
Uganda ...............ceremonial masks
United Kingdom........Blood, sweat & tears
United States ........ABC....ammo,blood & con-jobs
Uzbekistan............fur hats
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 11:28 AM
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14. THAT'S FUNNY....LOL...But seriously folks....If I were a reporter that is
the first thing I would want to ask...I would ask Wolfowitz or Bush..."Why don't we ever SEE any of the foreign troops, if they REALLY ARE in Iraq?"...How come NOBODY ASKS?????
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 11:30 AM
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15. seriously... because we only paid them money to use their names
It's us and the Brits.. that's IT..

The "others" are name only contributors.. Like ..sure ..you can fly over my country, so send me a cashiers check for 7BIllion dollars :(
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:54 AM
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12. Another "just two vases" speach
:puke:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 11:45 AM
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16. The expression "lying like a Persian rug" springs to mind
Especially when he talks about how high troop morale is. :puke:
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