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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:50 PM
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Bush signing abortion bill now (1:30 PM ET)
Decided to re-post for the person who started this thread.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:52 PM
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1. kick
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:54 PM
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2. Can
we impeach him for knowingly signing an unconstitutional law?
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:32 PM
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3. that would then include CFR...
or at least parts of it...
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:28 PM
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8. Then Clinton could have been impeached fro signing the assault weapons ban
It doesn't work that way.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:44 PM
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4. Bastard.
You have no idea how much that makes my blood boil. Back door to end abortion rights.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:47 PM
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:11 PM
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6. Old fat rich white men telling women how they must live
Nothing's changed.

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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:13 PM
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7. and a federal judge has already imposed an injunction....way to go, bushie
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:37 PM
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9. I though..
I thought that the SC was reviewing this bill. There was an interesting article in the Boston Globe today that essentially said that Roe V Wade ALREADY banned 3rd trimester abortions UNLESS the mother's health was in in danger...essentially, then, this bill is does nothing more than start to chip away abortion rights by outlawing legit 2nd trimester abortions...
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:03 PM
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10. You're right...
... but now it's 3:55 EST and by now there should be a stay put on the thing.

Oh well... meanwhile, how many lives are damaged for good by this nonsense? The government has NO RIGHT to insist that a woman give her life to bring a child into the world, and especially a child that has no chance of living past a few days.

Maybe we should have argued this issue as putting more money into the pockets of doctors and hospitals, since they will be forced to provide care for infants who are born seriously deformed. Maybe the health insurance rates will go up for everybody. That would get 'em where they live!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:07 PM
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11. To me, this is just more moralizing BS from the Republicans
Essentially, they force women to bring, as you said, a child into the world, a child that may or may not live past a few days...
But what happens if the child lives? Late term abortions are used so rarely, and almost all of the cases are where 1) the mother wanted to have the fetus brought to term 2) the fetus had a SEVERE defect that would render quality of life extremely poor or lethal; such as being born without a spinal cord or functioning organs..
In those cases where the fetus has a severe defect, bringing the fetus to term results (if the child lives) brings HUGE costs to the mother both financially and emotionally...who's gonna pay for it?
Oh no no, the Republicans want no part of that. They just want women to squirt 'em out and leave em hanging...they don't care about the child after it's born, and that's sickening.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:09 PM
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12. the point is to make sure you know a fetus is more important than a woman
sets the stage to ban all abortions.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:11 PM
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13. That's a good point
remember all those laws making a fetus "a person" with health care and all that BS?
Very slowly our rights are being taken away...many women of my generation don't understand how great a right we have as women to demand reproductive rights. We've become complacent..
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