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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:59 AM
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It seems I've heard this song before.
"Where have all the young men gone,
long time passing?"

And now our fearless leader* has finally said it.
(paraphrase) "To pull out of Iraq now would dishonor the lives of American soldiers who have died to liberate the country."

Go back 35 years and substitute Viet Nam for Iraq and you have the same lame reasoning put out by the administration and the Pentagon then.

Many times an inexperienced poker player uses this same flawed justification for staying in the game. With a weak hand he has already hung in for a couple of rounds of betting. He has put a significant amount of money in the pot. Since he will surely lose if he folds, he stays in and sees more raises.

This is called "throwing good money after bad". The stakes rise infinitely when lives instead of money are in the balance.

"When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?"

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:31 AM
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1. Or maybe it was just deja vu
all over again?
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:37 AM
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3. It seems I've heard this song before
but I don't remember where ,or when? Remember that old song trof?

Problem is, some of us do remember where and when

Thats why we are angry and scared

at least I am
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:45 AM
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4. "Where or When"
Oh yeah. I remember that.

Where Or When
(Rogers and Hart)
It seems we stood and talked like this, before
We looked at each other in the same way then
But I can't remember where or when
The clothes you're wearing are the clothes you wore
The smile you are smiling you were smiling then
But I can't remember where or when
Some things that happened for the first time
Seem to be happening again
And so it seems that we have met before
And that we laughed before, also loved before
But who knows where or when


But here's the one I had in mind:

I've Heard That Song Before

Artist: Harry James, with vocal by Helen Forrest
Sung by Frank Sinatra in the movie "Youth on Parade"
Charted at # 1 for 13 weeks in 1943
Words by Sammy Cahn and Music by Jule Styne

It seems to me I've heard that song before
It's from an old familiar score
I know it well, that melody
It's funny how a theme recalls a favorite dream
A dream that brought you so close to me

I know each word because I've heard that song before
The lyrics said "Forever more"
Forever more's a memory
Please have them play it again
And I'll remember just when
I heard that lovely song before

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:34 AM
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2. He's the Universal Soldier
and we're on the eve of destruction.

This is why us so called pacifists oppose war. It's always the same shit over and over.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:02 AM
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5. AGREED
I was very young during the Viet Nam war but I DO remember it quite vividly. I especiallyr remember the body counts on the news. It's like deja vu now.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:06 AM
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6. They made the same argument then.
I still don't understand how killing more of our young men and women in an unjustified "preemptive" invasion somehow "honors" all the wrongful deaths that have already ocurred.
:shrug:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:01 AM
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7. I seem to be listening to
Niel Youngs "Keep on rockin in the free world" alot.
Seems to be on point....again.
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