Karl Zinsmeister--C-Span Now

[bluedog]

Hes editor in chief of American Enterprise...hes spouting off numbers about the poll they took in Iraq...well his numbers do not match up with the ones that he claims came from the Zobgy Poll.

I don't think this man even checked with his source...Trying to get through..on hold forever....

If anyone wants check this out..


• Seven in 10 told us that Iraq would be a better country and that they themselves would be better off in five years.

• Only two in five (39%) said that "democracy can work in Iraq," while a majority (51%) agreed that "democracy is a Western way of doing things and will not work here." Shiites — who suffered the most under Hussein and who make up the majority in Iraq — are more evenly split about democracy (45%-46%), while Sunnis are far less favorable.

• Asked about the kind of government that would be best for Iraq, half of all respondents (49%) said they preferred "a democracy with elected representatives guided by Sharia (Islamic law)." Twenty-four percent prefer an "Islamic state ruled by clerics based on Sharia." Only one in five (21%) preferred a "secular democracy with elected representatives."

• Three out of five made it clear that they wanted Iraqis left alone to work out a government for themselves, while only one in three want the United States and Britain to "help make sure a fair government is set up." Two out of three Iraqis — and seven in 10 Sunnis — want U.S. and British forces out of Iraq in a year.

• Three out of four Iraqis want the leaders of Hussein's Baath Party punished. Osama bin Laden is viewed favorably by 36% and unfavorably by 47%.

• Half of all Iraqis interviewed say the United States will hurt Iraq over the next five years. Only 36% say the U.S. will help.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-zogby27oct27,1,1743336.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

[rooboy]

1. American Enterprise Institute...

the Al Jazeera of the western world.

[KoKo]

2. Yes, I thought he was lying. The only poll that said what he's saying was

Gallup. That was a poll about a month ago and Gallup concluded that the Iraqi's just loved us (at least that's the way the media reported it).

The Zogby Poll is within the last week and is much less favorable. I had to turn him off, because I didn't believe a word he was saying.

[bluedog]

3. right he was

lying his ass off.....I have to get a transcript of this but I'm pretty sure he said it was a Zogby poll and it was honest and not bias because John Zogby was from the some middle eastern Country.
It makes me so mad that when you hear a lie you can't get through this lines and call them on it!!!!

[KoKo]

5. Here are Zogby's comments posted this week on his site. The poll was

taken in August though. He just put his comments up, at least by the date at bottom of article

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Here are some specifics:

• Seven in 10 told us that Iraq would be a better country and that
they themselves would be better off in five years.

• Only two in five (39%) said that "democracy can work in Iraq,"
while a majority (51%) agreed that "democracy is a Western way of
doing things and will not work here." Shiites — who suffered the
most under Hussein and who make up the majority in Iraq — are
more evenly split about democracy (45%-46%), while Sunnis are
far less favorable.

• Asked about the kind of government that would be best for Iraq,
half of all respondents (49%) said they preferred "a democracy
with elected representatives guided by Sharia (Islamic law)."
Twenty-four percent prefer an "Islamic state ruled by clerics based
on Sharia." Only one in five (21%) preferred a "secular democracy
with elected representatives."

• Three out of five made it clear that they wanted Iraqis left alone
to work out a government for themselves, while only one in three
want the United States and Britain to "help make sure a fair
government is set up." Two out of three Iraqis — and seven in 10
Sunnis — want U.S. and British forces out of Iraq in a year.

• Three out of four Iraqis want the leaders of Hussein's Baath Party
punished. Osama bin Laden is viewed favorably by 36% and
unfavorably by 47%.

• Half of all Iraqis interviewed say the United States will hurt Iraq
over the next five years. Only 36% say the U.S. will help.

One thing is clear: The predicted euphoria of Iraqis has not
materialized.

Months after the U.S. military victory, American policymakers
and troops are left not only with the daunting task of
nation-building and restoring the country's devastated
infrastructure but also with having to win the hearts and minds of
Iraqis who are not keen on the U.S. occupation.

Iraqis, like their fellow Arabs, feel victimized by a history of
betrayal and humiliation at the hands of Western powers. It
appears that U.S. policymakers overlooked or misread this
sentiment.

(10/28/2003)
- By John Zogby, Los Angeles Times, Infoshop, The Muslim
American Society
http://www.zogby.com/

[nomaco-10]

4. I watched it...

Several callers saw right thru him and referred to his poll as "slanted". I knew when the poll came out that it had to have been primarily taken in northern Iraq, of course the poor Kurds are by the most part seeing positive results after the invasion. Mr. Zinsmeister stated that the poll was taken in the very far north and the very far south, Baghdad being too "hot". How many people heard these numbers all over the news a couple of weeks ago and assumed it was a blanket poll of the entire country, they convieniently left that part out. The very few clips of school attendance in Iraq that I've seen on the news were all Kurdish. Spin, spin, spin....

[Oilwellian]

6. Indeed

If we're getting these numbers from the Northern & Southern sections of Iraq, the areas we were protecting for the past decade, we're in big shit trouble.