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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:28 PM
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Scalia Ridicules Court's Gay Sex Ruling
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (news - web sites) ridiculed his court's recent ruling legalizing gay sex, telling an audience of conservative activists Thursday that the ruling ignores the Constitution in favor of a modern, liberal sensibility.

Must be that seldom mentioned anti-sodomy amendment. :eyes:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031024/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_scalia_2
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:29 PM
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1. He seriously frightens me
I was just going to post this, BTW.

I've often been thankful he's not my father.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:30 PM
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2. Somebody needs to fuck this guy up the ass
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:31 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
TO clear out his colon so his brain can see since his ass appears to be his point of reference.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:31 PM
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4. I was going to post something similar...
..but didn't want to give the DU gay population nightmares.
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NoMoreRedInk Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:32 PM
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5. What an amazing sentiment. Thank you for the levity. I just....
laughed out loud. DU never cease to amaze me. I love this place.

Thanks!
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:35 PM
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8. wha?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:07 PM
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14. NSMA, Don't Hold Your Breath for Volunteers.
Isn't his brain part of his ass? :hi:
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:59 PM
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23. LOL -- wait... should I laugh that that? Oh well.. LOL!!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:31 PM
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3. the Constitution...?
the Constitution????

:wtf: is Tony smokin???
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:33 PM
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6. this snip says it ALL about the repubes:
"Scalia wrote a bitter dissent in the gay sex case that was longer than the ruling itself."
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:34 PM
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7. He uses the word 'modern' like an insult
It must be dark in there...


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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:37 PM
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18. Apparently the laws in effect at that time are ipso facto
"Constitutional". Who even needs legislatures, when we can simply refer to the law circa 1789 ?
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:35 PM
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9. Antonin Scalia brightens my day
if someone that retarded can be a Supreme Court justice then I sure as hell can get my sorry ass through law school.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:41 PM
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10. I think of him as the Italian Rush Limbaugh
They have so much in common
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:55 PM
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11. scalia
He and John Asscroft are auditioning for the role of Torquemada. I place no bets on who performs the best.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:00 PM
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12. He is way too political
to be on the supreme court.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:02 PM
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13. Let him run his mouth
If he says enough now then if gay marrage is ever before the court he may have to recuse himself from that too.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:10 PM
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15. And People Wonder Why I LOATHE Republicans and Christian Fundamentalists..
... what's worse: "despise" or "loathe". Whichever one it is... that's how I feel.

-- Allen
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HPLeft Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:30 PM
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16. He's a sick dude
The next Democratic nominee has to really young (so that they'll be around for a while) and pretty far to the left - if only to balance out Scalia and Thomas.

What I really wanted the court to address was the important constitutional question of why a woman with a strap-on doing a man isn't sodomy, but two men using having sex is? Or whether two women, one with a strap-on, is also Sodomy - or just material for the kind of movie that Clarence Thomas like to rent.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:32 PM
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17. That Kind Of Thinking Would Make Their Heads Explode
... I'll leave it up to you to figure out which one I'm talking about.

-- Allen
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:51 PM
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19. He must have been aroused
at some point in his past by men. This is the only explanation of his behaivor. Typical of most closet redneck guys I know here in the South. They are a little TOO disturbed by gay men.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:55 PM
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20. Scalia is a repressed gay in the closet
and I'll bet the farm he has sex fantasies about Clarence!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:01 AM
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24. Exactly.
Just like Billy "Blackjack" Bennett;
Jimmy "Sexpot" Swaggart & Bakker;
Rush "Poppers" Lardbutt;
I could go on all day.

Those who are abnormally obsessed with a particular topic are more often than not (90%? 99%?) of the time prooven to be the very ones doing themselves what they are condemm in others.

Hypocrisy = Republican/Conservative/Christian.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:58 PM
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21. How does it ignore the Constitution?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 11:59 PM by Selwynn
Would someone play the role of "opposition prep" and give me the argument on how the Supreme's ruling ignores the Constitution?

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:59 PM
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22. Scalia is literally & really a fascist
He has stated publicly that the ultimate form of loyalty is due to the state. Well, ultimately God, but his logic, if I recall correctly, was that the state is the manifestation of God's will on earth. The statement I'm thinking of was made before the end of the previous SCOTUS term. No, not your family, not your religion (well, I guess if you are a conservative, Latin-Mass-making Roman Catholic, it's all mixed together...), not your idea of freedom: you owe your life to your state, because in theory the state makes it possible for you to survive. Shoot, I am going to go after the quotes now; I hate being this imprecise.

He makes me ashamed to be Italian-American, he really does.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:05 AM
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25. Did Scalia mention that the ruling is going to lead to Senator on dog sex?
As I understand it, this will occur only in Pennsylvania.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:38 AM
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26. The Constitution???
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia ... ridiculed his court's recent ruling legalizing gay sex, telling an audience of conservative activists Thursday that the ruling ignores the Constitution in favor of a modern, liberal sensibility.

Since when does the Constitution address gay sex? Last time I looked, it didn't. It did offer equal rights to all citizens, however.

It's really too bad... if individual states would stop making laws depriving groups of people of their Constitutional rights there would be no need for the Supreme Court to step in and make rulings that limit the power of the states. These "Christians" that are so into punishing people for stepping out of line ought to understand that their states stepped out of line and are getting their knuckles rapped for doing it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:44 AM
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27. Let's Start One Of Those "Pat Robertson Style" Prayer Chains...
... to see what we can do about Mr. Scalia.

-- Allen
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 09:03 AM
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28. They Made CSPAN Turn Off The Cameras For This!
I was watching Washington Journal this morning and Brian Lamb, with a clearly sardonic tone, mentioned that they didn't have the speech on tape because Scalia and his sponsors made everyone turn off cameras and tape recorders.

What is this guy so afraid of? I know the answer.

That if they have him on tape actually saying this stuff, he'll be exposed as the lunatic he really is.
The Professor
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 09:07 AM
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29. One Other Thing
What is it with these guys who believe that the Constitution is writ from God and etched in stone? He actually was introduced as a man who was appointed to be sure that the Constitution is implemented EXACTLY AS WRITTEN!

If it's immutable, and not subject to the shifts in social mores, then why would we even need a Supreme Court to interpret it? If it's immutable, the framers wouldn't have even bothered to put a Supreme Court in the document.

The very existence within the document of the format and charge of the Supreme Court means that the framers intended the Constitution to be mutable and evolutionary.

I guess Scalia's not smart enough to see this obvious truth.
The Professor
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 09:22 AM
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30. Somebody should tell him its genetic (new evidence)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031022062408.htm

Refuting 30 years of scientific theory that solely credits hormones for brain development, UCLA scientists have identified 54 genes that may explain the different organization of male and female brains. Published in the October edition of the journal Molecular Brain Research, the UCLA discovery suggests that sexual identity is hard-wired into the brain before birth and may offer physicians a tool for gender assignment of babies born with ambiguous genitalia.

“Our findings may help answer an important question — why do we feel male or female?” said Dr. Eric Vilain, assistant professor of human genetics and urology at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and a pediatrician at UCLA’s Mattel Children’s Hospital. “Sexual identity is rooted in every person’s biology before birth and springs from a variation in our individual genome.”

Since the 1970s, scientists have believed that estrogen and testosterone were wholly responsible for sexually organizing the brain. In other words, a fetal brain simply needed to produce more testosterone to become male. Recent evidence, however, indicates that hormones cannot explain everything about the sexual differences between male and female brains.

Vilain and his colleagues explored whether genetic influences could explain the variations between male and female brains. Using two genetic testing methods, they compared the production of genes in male and female brains in embryonic mice — long before the animals developed sex organs.

To their surprise, the researchers found 54 genes produced in different amounts in male and female mouse brains, prior to hormonal influence. Eighteen of the genes were produced at higher levels in the male brains; 36 were produced at higher levels in the female brains.

“We didn’t expect to find genetic differences between the sexes’ brains,” Vilain said. “But we discovered that the male and female brains differed in many measurable ways, including anatomy and function.”

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