I wonder what % of Americans suspect that bushco did nine eleven?

[mopaul]

it'd be interesting to see the results of such a poll, say on msnbc if they had the balls.

i wonder if it would be a million? or multiple millions? and i wonder what percentage have only just recently come to this suspicion, if not this conclusion?

[Pam-Moby]

1. I think we all know the answer to that one.

[mattclearing]

20. We do?

:shrug:

I'd guess:

"Do you suspect Bush <LIHOP>?" 15%

"Do you suspect Bush <MIHOP>?" 5%

"The Official Story rules. LALALALALALALA." 80%

[GrumpyGreg]

2. What conclusion? Your post is confusing.

[Dinger]

3. It Was Almost The First Thing I Thought

First, I was just stunned, then I thought, yup, he did it. Solves a lot of problems for him.

[texpatriot2004]

4. You can count me in that percent nm

[DemInDistress]

5. Here in NYC its 70% of city residents who believe

our government had a hand in 911. Its not shocking what with all the stonewalling,blocking and denial of key documents for an investigation. I gave the chimp the benefit of the doubt on 911. he said,"I dont know who crashed those jets" but as the weeks and months passed,what did we learn? After 8 months of denying any prior knowledge of the attacks the NY Post on May 15 2002 runs this headline in 3 inch type,"BUSH KNEW" prez was warned about terror attacks before they happened,that was the now infamous Aug 6 2001 PDB.

[NYCGirl]

8. Where the hell did you get that number? NT

[DemInDistress]

17. Zogby nt

[NYCGirl]

21. Got a link for that? NT

[DemInDistress]

23. try this...its over 1 year old...

Garlic & Grass :: A Grassroots Journal of America's Political Soul
New Zogby International Poll Findings Released 50% of NYC Thinks US Had Foreknowledge
of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act ...
www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Zogby_Poll.cfm

I'll search for the latest results later....

[Cooley Hurd]

6. It would probably be a small percentage (single digit)...

To think one's own government could be responsible for such a heinous act is unfathomable to most. Most just couldn't/wouldn't face up to such a theory.

[Lyle]

7. I'm convinced! n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Big difference between LIHOP and MIHOP -- but combine the

two and I'd wager the number is significan.

I thought LIHOP from the 2nd day after, and over the months graduated into MIHOP.

[TNOE]

10. Zogby had the number at 45%

that New Yorkers believed - that was a year or 2 ago - so you know its gone higher now. The truth always finds the light of day - and I don't think they dreamed in a million years they would get caught so quick. Underestimated peoples intelligence and the internet. One day, hopefully soon, very soon, they will all be exposed for the liars and murderors they are.

[Lerkfish]

11. I think a lot of people are coming around to LIHOP.

Let it Happen On Purpose.

a much smaller number coming around to MIHOP (made it happen on purpose).

Myself, I started with dismissing both LIHOP and MIHOP, then, over time, I became absolutely convinced of LIHOP.
I'm not yet "absolutely" convinced of MIHOP, but I'm getting there.

One reason I'm convinced of LIHOP: the secret service has a mission: to protect the president. No SS men looked remotely worried during the reading of my pet goat, no one rushed him to a limo, no one cut short the photo ops afterward.

In a REAL ATTACK on the US., the first job is to expedite the president to a safe place immediately.
that didn't happen.

[LunaC]

16. Maybe I can nudge you over the edge

The link in my sig line may just do it. It's very compelling.

[Lerkfish]

24. oh, don't worry, I'm only about a centimeter away

won't take much nudging.

:)

but I will read your link when I grab some time. Looks interesting.

[melody]

12. I did when I read that Wolfowitz wrote a paper on that very scenario

And using it to enact fascism in the US.

[BOSSHOG]

13. LIHOP, no doubt about it

bush and his constitution hating bastard supporters at PNAC thought it would be great to have a terrorist attack. A perfect storm if you will. An ignorant and aggressive base to shout down the evil liberals. They actually thought we'd be greeted as liberators with flowers tossed on the road. bush, cheney, wolfowitz and their base are scum of the earth - 21hundred plus Americans dead and conservatives don't give a fuck. Please conservatives whine to me. Tell me how important it is to give a military deserter and corporate criminal unparralleled power to push your dumbass agenda. FUCK CONSERVATIVES.

[Lerkfish]

25. these guys aren't conservatives.

just want to point that out: they are the most radically nonconservative group we've ever had. They want to dissassemble everything down to the bare wire and rebuild it differently. That's not conservatism.

What they ARE is fascists.

[BOSSHOG]

28. While I agree with your post

100%, I would like to piss off conservatives who have had their movement kidnapped and fucked beyong recognition. You and I should not fight the good fight against the fascists; real conservatives should tend to that task. I'm often beaten up by real conservatives for making such posts. I'm not the enemy, I did not usurp the ideals of conservatism. If conservatives don't like what bush and his kind are doing, don't waste your time slapping this veteran around, go for the jugular, and I'm nowhere close.

[BobRossi]

14. Count me as one. nt

[CalebHayes]

15. I'd say 20% +/- ???

[European Socialist]

18. Alternatives to the Gov't version haven't seen the light of day on M$M...

which is a scandal by itself. After the JFK assassination there was all kinds of public information regarding different theories of what happened. This makes me believe the media has been muzzled and most people don't know any other version than the Governments, so a small % think Dumya had anything to do with it.

[BrklynLiberal]

19. I think some of us thought so at minute 1..but the percentage is growing.

[indepat]

22. No one can deny it most advantageously gave W his trifecta

[LunaC]

26. There's an ad on CNN

where there's a line a quick line thrown in "the government is lying about 911" (don't recall what product they were pushing.) That's a bold statement that reveals a quiet subtext running through the national consciousness.

Does anyone else recall that ad? What were they selling?

[newswolf56]

27. Three vital points of analysis, LIHOP versus MIHOP:

(1)-In the broadest sense, MIHOP -- "made it happen on purpose" -- is factually correct: the United States began funding to resurrect Islamic Fundamentalism in the early 1950s, this out of the usual capitalist reaction (greed + fear = fascism) -- America's response to the Soviet-nurtured (and therefore rapidly growing) popularity of Marxism in the Middle East. The U.S./capitalist purpose was to suppress and then exterminate Marxist sentiment by restoring Abrahamic religion -- in this instance Islam -- to its traditional role as the facilitator of economic oppression and exploitation. This same intent has guided U.S. Middle Eastern policy since the Mosadegh episode in Iran; since the re-animation of Islamic Fundamentalism was the direct result of U.S.-funded agitation, the 9/11 attacks were -- literally -- made to happen by the U.S. itself.

(2)-However MIHOP in the common paranoid sense fails all the tests of rationality, not only because of the dollar losses the capitalists suffered due to the 9/11 attacks, but because of the risk of discovery by several formidably effective foreign intelligence agencies, not the least of them China's.

(3)-But LIHOP -- "let it happen on purpose" -- assumes ever greater credence if one accepts (or even suspects) the existence of long-term corporate conspiracy to turn the U.S. into a fascist state -- an absolutely vital step to preserve corporate profits in a world of increasing scarcities. Since history proves such a conspiracy existed (see link below), and present-day disclosure increasingly supports the likelihood such a conspiracy exists again -- note how the entire Republican Party is a behind-closed-doors collaboration between Big Business and ever-more-overtly fascist politicians -- the possibility that 9/11 was allowed to happen as a latter-day Reichstag Fire surely cannot be dismissed.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Coup.htm

[dailykoff]

30. Re #2:

a) The capitalists haven't lost a cent--in fact, they're lining their pockets with every type of revenue stream imaginable, flowing like a river directly from the federal government.

b) We the taxpayers and ratepayers are footing the bills for 9/11 cleanup, "rebuilding" (graft), hush money to survivors, "homeland defense" (basically, more graft), insurance payouts, etc. And the Trade Center was a public investment, now a public loss.

c) From a purely structural standpoint, it was without question a demolition job.

[chat_noir]

29. CNN 9/11 poll

[Rocknrule]

31. I've always been reluctant to believe MIHOP

since I don't want to be seen as a conspiracy theorist, but I'm growing closer to believing it every day