CNN -- Bush's approval ratings do not appear to have changed

[kpete]

CNN -- President Bush's approval ratings do not appear to have changed significantly, despite a number of recent speeches he's given to shore up public support for the war in Iraq and its historic elections on Thursday.

A CNN/USA Today Gallup poll conducted over the weekend found his approval rating stood at 41 percent, while more than half, or 56 percent, disapprove of how the president is handling his job. A majority, or 52 percent, say it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq, and 61 percent say they disapprove of how he is handling Iraq specifically. The margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The poll interviews were conducted before President Bush's Oval Office address, which was broadcast on primetime television Sunday. (Read what he said.)

Although half of those surveyed considered Iraq's first full-term parliamentary election since the ouster of Saddam Hussein either a major or key step toward the U.S. achieving its goals in Iraq, only 40 percent felt the U.S. was winning the war. Half said that neither side was winning. (View poll results)



Bush's handling of Iraq


Was going to Iraq a mistake?


Who's winning in Iraq?



http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/19/bush.poll/

[FSogol]

1. And yet much of the MSM are saying his ratings are improving.

His ratings will never approval. He is a lame duck who has confessed to impeachable offenses. His party will begin cutting their losses when they return in January.

[long_green]

23. Rove called in a few favors

Wait for a minor (VERY minor, in this case) uptick in Bush's #'s and then run a bunch of stories claiming a "surge" in popularity...and do it around Christmas.

[Flubadubya]

2. I never thought it would happen...

that I would believe a CNN Gallup poll over all others.

[DanCa]

3. Polls vary - even when they are legit.

I sincerly believe that the washington post abc poll was either fabricated by a rw hack or they just interviewed more repukes.

[Hekate]

4. So why was the ABC anchor twittering over the "surge" in *s polls?

It was pretty stupid -- she'd give the figures (which showed that the majority think he's a major foul-up) and then she'd burble about how improved it all was, how his speeches were having a tremendous effect, and how he was on his way back. :wtf:

Hekate

[still_one]

5. but, but, but ABC/Washington Post were saying just the opposite

[underpants]

7. Right and that is a MAJOR poll very MAJOR poll

as ABC said last night :eyes:

[donco6]

9. But was it a MAJOR poll?

I caught that too. Jeez, they practically slobbered over themselves stressing it.

[underpants]

10. 47%!!! 47%!!!

Like they were running around the house with scissors.

The first thing I thought was-Man that is a HUGE jump and the timing seems just a little too..... oh I got it.
:eyes:

I am really getting good at this cynical thing.

[still_one]

11. exactly

[TahitiNut]

12. ABC/WaPo polled the Pollyanna faction ...

Please note that the 'approval' of Congress reflects an even greater skew (vis-a-vis other polls) than the (so-called) 'approval' of the Fecal Fuhrer. (Take note that 'Registered Voters' have a largely more critical attitude.)

[underpants]

13. Yeah I knew this was outside the acceptable range

That is way too much of a leap after only a week.

[converted_democrat]

6. Good....

I woke up this morning to Katie Couric on my TV....(I fell asleep, and forgot to turn the TV off last night.) She's talking in this booming voice, and says "According to our new numbers, Bush approval ratings have gone up dramatically." I snapped off the TV set, and ran in here to find the numbers. I was so super pissed, I thought- How can his numbers go up when he just admitted spying on people illegally?

[DemonFighterLives]

8. Msnbc was imagining a "Surge"

I didn't wait around to hear what.
Where I come from a "Surge" was a milking machine. I suspect they were milking b*sh for all he was worth among his blind cultists.
:)

[robbedvoter]

14. Must be all the spy base feeling good today....

How obscene is this topic anyway? "How much do you approve of Jeffrey Dohmer? Do you appreciate frozen foods?"
They are snow jobbing you and you measure the temperature of the snow!

[kpete]

15. from: atrios

[progressoid]

16. OK, this is depressing.

Those numbers are still too high. Why are Americans so stoooopid?

[ProfessorGAC]

17. File This Under "Well, Duh!"

The train has left the station. There is no recovery for Silverspoon. And through the lens of history, he will go down as one of the five worst ever. Mismanagement, corruption, incompetence, thievery, you name it.
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

18. If he rises to a tie with four others as 'Worst" then history is on crack.

I've been alive since FDR was President. My first election 'activism' was playing King of the Hill as a part of the "I Like Ike" team. (I added an "M" so mine said "I Like MIke".) I remember Eisenhower (and Kefauver), Kennedy (and Bay of Pigs), Johnson (and Tonkin Gulf), Nixon (and Watergate), Ford (and pardons), Carter (and Iran), Reagan (and Iran/Contra), Bush (and 'wrong-footing' Saddam), Clinton (and Monica), and Junior (an unending parade of atrocities).

Junior is nearly beyond compare. Worse than the worst of Nixon, Reagan, McKinley, Hoover, and Reagan combined.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Buchanan? Pretty Bad

Grant? Pretty Bad. Harding? Pretty Bad. I'd take McKinley and Hoover off my top 5 add these two. Now, don't get me wrong. Silverspoon is THE WORST in my lifetime. (Not quite as old as you, but born during Ike.) But, historians look at varying things, and no matter how one slices it, he will end up in the overall top 5.
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

20. Nixon, Harding, Hoover, Buchanan, Coolidge, Andrew Johnson, Grant, and ...

... McKinley are generally regarded (by historians) as the worst in history. I'd rather have any one of them than Junior. I regard him as worse than any three of them combined. The economy, civil liberties, international relations, law enforcement (corporate and political crimes) ... at the very bottom in all of these categories, imho.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. I Know

I just think he will not top out in historians' lists in 50 years. He will be up there, but not #1. And, i think Andrew Johnson gets a bad rap. He was thrust into a situation for which he was grossly ill-prepared and didn't want. Sort of like Grant, i guess. Neither of those guys wanted that job. Grant was talked into it by some "backroom & cigar smoke" guys and Johnson just wanted to be VP. He got shafted, and Grant just wasn't a president. He was an ass-kicker, not a diplomat.
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

22. I agree regarding both Johnson and Grant. I also agree with Helen Thomas.

She says he's the worst ever, bar none. I agree. But then we both graduated from the same university. (A fact of which I'm proud.)

I think it's also very important to recognize the far greater impact of his corruption, both domestically and globally. Before Teddy Roosevelt, the US Presidency had far less impact internationally. From then to FDR, it grew from an isolationist stance (and heavy handed banana republican plantationism) to world power. Now that we're the sole "superpower," it's greater than ever. It's very telling that his 'worst' rating is even more pronounced as the impact is an order of magnitude greater in terms of lives and individual well-being globally and domestically.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Good Point

Especially so after WWI i would think. Remember, i agree with you on his "horribleness". I just think historians are more varied in their POV, so he'll end up high on the "worst" list, but i have my doubts he'll be #1. I hope he is. Just don't think he'll get past #2 or 3.
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

25. I know we agree on the 'horribleness' ... and 99% of the rest.

It's just fun to find a quibble with someone with whom I'd march in lockstep any time. It serves my sense of individuality. :silly: :dunce:

Capisca?? :evilgrin:

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Capito

Or Capisco, depending on whether we're doing classical italian or the hick dialect i speak.
The Professor