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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:20 AM Original message |
How serious are you about separation of Church and State? |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. city, county, state and federal employees |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. what loon said. |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm in that category. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm retired from that category. 30 years total. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. That's right. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm not willing to give up ANY paid holidays. |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. What if the number of holidays is kept, but the dates are shifted |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. As a Heart Attack |
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sonofliberty (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:33 AM Original message |
don't learn from history we are bound to relive it!!! N/T |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. I side with the constitution. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. As a practical matter, so many people would likely take that day off using |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. This is true. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I'm NOT Christian and I'd take the day off anyway. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Oh, yes there are. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Then we disagree. I do think you're buying into mythology, but that's |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. And I could say you're going to Hell... but I don't. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I don't care of you say I'm going to hell or not -- if you think it you |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My point is that I don't think it , which is why I don't say it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. If you don't think it, then you're not really holding back an opinion, are |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Y'all are getting off track. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. But I already resolved the issue: so many would take the day off anyway |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. And i agree with you. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Then you'd get into issues of violating civil rights. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Not sure thats true. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Who says it has to be paid? Besides - you were asking about |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Not trying for a gotcha |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Same deal. The number of people who would take the day off |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. who thinks that? |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Ah, the evil "anti Christian Duers" |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Christians aren't necessarily persecuted in the real world, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I read plenty of threads and I see a lot of sentiment that anytime someone |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I don't feel persecuted, but I do think there should be |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. LOL --- so you think we're going to Hell, you just don't SAY it? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. You're not listening, anyway. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. But you made a point of what you're NOT saying - |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. I teach in a school district |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. allow every employee to take one personal day for religious purposes |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. As a paid holiday, separate from vacation time. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. And how about the kids? Do they get a day off too? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
10. This is how serious I am... |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
12. Ya have to pick your battles wisely |
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sonofliberty (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wow ..... separation of church and state wasn't that part of our |
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Left_Winger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. I am a county employee and I'm not paid for time off at Christmas |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Does that mean you'll be at work, if the 25th falls on a weekday? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. how would it mean that? |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Not before i retired from the county. |
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Left_Winger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. I would have no problem with that as I am not a Christian |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. No but I don't think all religious symbols should be removed |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
18. National holidays as such are not a religious matter |
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sonofliberty (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Separation of church and state was to keep the "Church" out |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Quite the opposite. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. it's both |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Respectfully disagree. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. two different things |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
24. i have no problem with giving the 1st weekday after 12/24 as a day off |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
32. I know plenty of non-Christians who are glad to take the day off. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. Give up Happy Holiday holiday....noooo say it ain't true... |
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Caution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
41. Very and Yes. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
53. Just change the name, if it hasn't been already. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
55. I'm very serious... |
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