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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:02 PM
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BBV on now on "This is Hell" - Sat. 12:00CT
David's on WNUR (Northwestern University Radio) talking about the appearance this week on FAUX and BBV.

89.3 FM in Chicago
http://thisishell.net
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:23 PM
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1. Uhhh, one slight problem with CD-R
You can't write as you go.....it's write once.

Where is this CD-R idea suddenly coming from?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:41 PM
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2. Some LIEbold Exec.
trying to save a sinking ship perhaps?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:43 PM
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3. The idea is mine,
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 12:47 PM by plan9_pub
and I has asked several folks in the biz and they said it was possible. I take it there is dispute?

On edit: I should have been a tad more detailed. As it was explained to me, the "sessions" would record each voting "event", then burn it to disk. Any change in "mode" would also be logged as a session.

The hardware is capable, the software would be special.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 05:20 PM
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9. Even if CD-R is possible
I would still not be able to "see" the data on the CD-R and know that my votes were recorded as I intended. That's a non-negotiable item for me.

The advantage of CD-R I presume would be to make upstream (beyond the DRE terminal) vote data much harder to manipulate without detection. That would be good, but not good enough to dispel my suspicions that the DREs themselves could have hidden code or hidden hardware that would alter my votes as they are being recorded.
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:46 PM
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4. I call cheap shot on Alastair!
Lousy thing to do.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:48 PM
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5. I did not take a cheap
shot at Alastair, I simply disagreed with how the story was presented. I also then defended why other countries would look at it this way.

David.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:07 PM
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6. Alastair is great, David knows it
Alastair, if you have any questions, David would be delighted to send you a transcript. He is thoroughly impressed with what you have achieved.

Bev
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 04:55 PM
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7. Actually, you can write a track at a time
or a session at a time, until you close the disk.
You can't rewrite what was written, and usualy the table of
contents is written last.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 05:02 PM
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8. True
At least that's how mine works. I've mentioned this in previous threads as well. :)
Once written, it's a permanent record better than a memory card but still not a replacement for a paper ballot!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 05:22 PM
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10. Agreed,
and it becomes the third piece of the record:

magnetic, cd-r, and paper.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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