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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 06:57 PM
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Please,Can Someone Explain How Lieberman and McCain Can Kiss W's Ass.....
Edited on Fri Dec-02-05 07:32 PM by louis c
after what he did to them in 2000.

All right, I understand that when you lose, you move on. I've known politics my whole life (I'm 53). I just lost an election myself a month ago.

But McCain was slandered in South Carolina in March of '00 by Bush and Rove. They insulted his wife, bringing up shit that is over the line in any body's book. Do you remember, Senator McCain. It went like this. Bush supporters push-polled by asking SC Republicans this question, "Who do support for President in the upcoming Republican primary, Governor Bush of Texas, or Senator McCain of Arizona?" If the respondent said Bush, the caller said thank you, ended the call, and put them in the "get out the vote" column. If the respondent said "McCain" or "undecided", the questioner asked, "how does the fact that Senator McCain is the father of a black child affect your choice?" You see, Senator McCain and his wife adopted a child from Bangladesh, a fact that the caller would not mention. This was less then a week before the election. They planted questions about McCain's being unable to handle the "pressure" because of his captivity during Viet Nam, and stories about his wife and drugs. How the F*ck can a man of any self-esteem continue to pull a guy's chestnuts out of the fire after subjecting him and his family to those type of lies, innuendo, and slander. How, I ask you?

Next, comes Senator Lieberman. Here's a guy who should be Vice-President of the United States today. He knows he was cheated. Does anyone think for a moment that if the Supreme Court didn't halt the counting in Florida, Gore and Lieberman wouldn't have made up the 535 votes? Senator Lieberman knows that our system is 51 different state elections and the federal government has no jurisdiction in counting state ballots, so long as everyone's civil rights are protected. If the Supreme Court entered at all, it was in disenfranchising the minorities in Florida under the federal voting rights act. But the actual counting and decisions on voter intent are the state's rights.

I know that bye-gones are bye-gones, but these injustices should be hard to swallow, especially by the principles involved. What I can't understand, is even if you can find forgiveness in your heart, how the F*ck do you stand up and lie for the guy? That's what I don't get. How do you become the chief ball washer, one in the Republican party, the other in the Democratic, after experiencing, first hand, his and his cronies dastardly lust for power. I don't get it.


Please, please can someone explain?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:00 PM
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1. For Lieberman
He's a puke in Democrat clothing. Anyone who disagrees needs to go to www.crooksandliars.com and listen to his appearance on the Imus show.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:11 PM
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5. I listened to the Imus show
that day. Lieberman made a fool of himself and hurt the dems by his comments.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:06 PM
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2. They all support the same policies....
Joe is all for killing Arabs. In Iraq. In Palestine. Just what Joe is all about. So the policies he has worked for is being accomplished before his eyes... a dream come true... even if it is a nightmare for the rest of us.

McCain? Certainly does support the same policies, but yeah, bush/rove sure was mean to him. Maybe feels he just has to play along to get the nomination in 2008.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:08 PM
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3. for McCain it's all about McCain
He wants to be Prez someday...he's being the good little Repuke who won't rock the boat. If he were at all critical of Dumbo, he'd never make it through the Repuke primary.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:11 PM
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4. McCain says he got over it. More likely he just had to play ball so
he could stay alive in the hearts of some repukes. And he has deminished himself a great deal in the process. Only standing up to the most obvious of crimes & dirty deeds.

As to Lieberman - I trust that he really is concerned about stability in the Middle East. I'm sure the Rove WH has diminshed him purposefully in the minds of democrats. They like every single % of the vote they can get. The Israeli hawk vote is just like any other candy for them.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:15 PM
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6. WHY is ANYBODY surprised Lieberman & McCain kiss Bush's ass?
If you mean the war, all three are in favor of that war,
for their own reasons. I can't believe people here believe
that McCain is only pretending to be a pro-war Repuke for
political purposes. Except for a couple issues (torture,
oh my, campaign reform, couple others), he IS a PRO-WAR REPUKE.
HE IS NOT PRETENDING!!!!
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:27 PM
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7. But why be the "Go To" guys?
Maybe I can understand if they don't break bush's balls, but why do they have to be the front guys?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:38 PM
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9. The disinfotainment media gloms onto them because
Lieberman is a Dem who loves the war (an actual rarity)
and McCain is seen as an "independent" thinker among Repukes
because of the 2-3 issues he takes a decent stand on.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:32 PM
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8. they just pucker up, close their eyes and
plant a big smooch on his hairy ass.
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