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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:39 AM
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Fox poll has Bush at 52 percent
I'm posting this as good news, since Fox tends to run a bit on the high side. Their last poll had him at 50 percent, but considering all the media hype about Bush's ratings "bounce," I expected their newest poll to have him in Gallup territory of the mid-50s. I think this proves Bush seems to have settled in at a hair above 50 percent for the moment, but that's hardly good news for the WH. Bush has basically had two weeks of positive press coverage, which produced no bounce whatsoever. Right now, he's in the middle ground between being popular and unpopular, and I don't think he's bottomed out. Keep in mind that in some polls, including ABC and Fox, he's now less popular than he was BEFORE 9/11. So not only has he lost all his post-9/11 approval, he's lost some of his pre-9/11 support as well. That's not good, no matter how you slice it.

http://www.pollingreport.com
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:40 AM
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1. It would seem he's levelled off for the moment
His re-elect numbers still suck though...
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:42 AM
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2. Yes, the reelect is the key
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:42 AM
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3. Subtract 10 Points off of Faux n/t
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:53 AM
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9. DOH! Ya stole my line...
...almost! I was thinking "52% heh? Ok, in reality, it's probably somewhere around 40%!"

"Faux Nukes Nutwork! UNfair and IMballanced! We're responsible for the high sales in TV's this year! I sold mine...and if you watch this crap network long enough, YOU WILL SELL YOURS TOO!"

Lu Cifer
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:41 PM
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12. could be...
> We're responsible for the high sales in TV's this year!

Would those be replacements after people throw the TV out the window in disgust?

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:47 AM
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4. This was a week when he snubbed the media
claiming they weren't "playing fair" and his mommy told him since it was his ball, he could make up all the rules.

Haha, shrub taking advantage of "grassroots" press in the sticks, as it were, is a joke. He is no insider, he's the out-of-touch dauphin who will lose his head when the s**t starts to fly.

And what the hell was that about? I haven't seen any major change in the mainstream press's position prostrate on the throneroom floor with their hands over their heads. Is this another doomed attempt at pre-emption? These guys are cliniacally paranoid.

I need to find that letter long ago from the psychiatrist who scolded his fellow doctors for not doing their duty as public health officers and getting Shrub, Cheney and Rummy into 48 hour obs hold. Any body got a clue or remember that letter?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:48 AM
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5. I Think AWOL's Fake "Bounce" Has Levelled Off And He's Sliding
again. Bad news every single day from the u.s., iraq, and afghanistan can't be sugar coated and spun forever.. they are trying to patch an oil leak with a bandaid. They are gonna lose!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:41 PM
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13. Dead Cat Bounce?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:50 AM
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6. Wasn't there just a report out saying Fox viewers were less informed
than most Americans? I would venture less intelligent also if they believe all that crap or even watch the network.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:50 AM
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7. pretty low for a biased poll
especially if Faux's "random sampling" is in deemed Bush* demographical areas

unless they've been told to poll outside those areas to keep expectations low for a miraculous pre-Diebold vote rebound
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:53 AM
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8. This is exactly what the WH wants.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 09:56 AM by Atman
Another squeaker of a race too close to call. That way, when Diebold steals the election for him, the Wal Mart Nation will just go "oh well, it was awfully close" and go back to Survivor Meets The Bachelor In Iceland.

OTOH, if he were polling where all of the other numbers say he rightfully should be at -- economy, jobs, "on the right track," etc, are all miserable numbers, in the 30s and 40s, yet somehow the overall is always in the fifties -- if Bush's overall numbers reflected the real numbers, it would be much more difficult to get the American people to roll over and take another Bush reaming if he suddenly won the race.

Although, it didn't stop them from stealing GA.

(BTW, did I see this correctly...biting the hand that stole the statehouse for him...Sexby Chablis of GA voted against Bush's grant, and voted instead for loans to Iraq.)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:07 AM
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11. 52% approval isn't too close to call
Approval ratings are usually more optimistic than re-elect numbers, because non-activists give incumbents the benefit of the doubt. Except when public opinion is really bad, like for Clinton's first term, and Reagan's first term.

What's most important about approval ratings is momentum and media coverage. Bush is getting rosy treatment by the media, and yet his numbers are still down. And they've been sinking for a while. That makes him very vulnerable.

All that assumes we can find a candidate to beat him.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:55 AM
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10. I'm not one for kicking someone when they are down but...
In this case I will make an exception.
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