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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:50 PM
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Famous People you use to love and respect but now YOU HATE
Because they are Bush loving insane Republicans?!


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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:51 PM
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1. Arnold !
FU Terminator! I can't believe I lusted for your body.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:52 PM
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3. hahaha
I can't believe you did either!

:)
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:15 AM
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26. It adds a new dimension to the movie "Predator"
I now root for the predator. It's a whole new movie. Disappointing ending.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:27 AM
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36. cant stand true lies now that i have seen so much of arnie
a particular scene just disgust me now in that movie. cant hardly watch any of his films, hear his voice. just a pig. too bad he isnt a girlie man, i would have more respect for him
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:48 AM
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64. which scene disgusts you?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:47 AM
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90. i was uncomfortable
with the strippin part and arnie being hidden. i saw it two decades ago. never really like the interpretation of that scene in my brain. yet to learn what a pig the man is, and how he truly sees women...... that scene just really grosses me out. maybe the reason i felt the way i did all those years ago, is i was feeling the pig arnie in this
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:12 AM
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129. that was a weird scene
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:16 AM
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252. I can't watch True Lies anymore, either...
Can't watch ANYTHING with him in it. I never really respected him, I kind of marginally liked him, because I liked a few films he was in. The little like I had,all gone.

Nothing but pure hatred now. Yeah! :woohoo:

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:14 AM
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270. Me too -- and I loved T-2
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:13 AM
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301. T-2 was SO good!
I may be able to watch that one again, someday. If for no other reason than Linda Hamilton kicks major ass in it. And they kill Arnold--that's worth the price of a rental anyday.

;)

But can't do True Lies--he has too much screen time. :grr:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:13 AM
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302. I still like his films
Most are hardly classics, but they hit the spot.

I guess I can separate the screen presence from the politician (such as he is) and man. He shoult co beck to making moofies.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:18 AM
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57. Ahnuld needs to be terminated!
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:51 PM
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2. no republican has ever been on my list!!
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:53 PM
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4. Bruce Willis and Arnold
But I refuse to burn my Terminator, Predator, and Die Hard Trilogy DVD's...sorry not gonna happen.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:26 AM
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35. Bruce is a pug? I'm fainting now
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:38 AM
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101. Some recent news stories indicate he's making a pro-Iraq war film
but googling them came up with all right-wing sources, so take that with a grain of salt.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:19 AM
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253. His stock has diminished for me
after finding out he is a puke--the whole "Hunt for Bin Laden" campaign he is presently on, really turned me off. It will be a very long time before (or if) I can enjoy Die Hard again.

...or the full frontal nudity in Color of Night... :P
Suck ass movie--great nude scene on his part!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:22 PM
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291. your little smiley with the tongue out goes well with what you
wrote. How did you find out he 's a pug? Do you remember? I have never read anything on him that was political, but then again I no longer follow Hollywood stuff. And this (whole "Hunt for Bin Laden") I never read a thing about it
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:10 AM
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300. I found out during the last election...
He went to one of the MTV music awards with Puff Daddy. This was at the time Puffy was touting his 'Vote or Die' slogan. I kind of wish he had kept that one to himself--it did little to promote the cause of democracy. LOL!

But anyway,I found out after that Bruce was a repub...somewhere on-line, I'm not sure where. Someone was saying something like 'Hollywood republican Bruce Willis parties with Dem friend Puffy...' or something like that. I was taken aback. Had no clue he was a repuke before that.

Totally broke my heart. :cry: But in time, I'll be watching that scene in Color of Night--gawd how I looooove that scene.
:P

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:16 AM
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304. People who're boycotting Bruce Willis for
what seems a Republican orientation (is he really? more to the point, is he a neocon?) are missing some good movies. Tears of the Sun (I think that was the title -- with Monica Belluci, set in West Africa) was one I just saw recently that is a pretty powerful piece.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:53 PM
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5. Ray Bradbury!
Fuck Mr Fahrenheit! FU Mr Republican so called 'good' writer. I write all day on the computer and ya know what? ITS EASY and you suck and I will throw away your books or maybe use them to lite a fire!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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8. Irony alert! n/t
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:48 AM
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45. not nearly as ironic as Bradbury's own politics
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:44 AM
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62. Read two of his books and call me in the morning.
I don't give a damn if the guy claims to be the biggest neocon of all time. His books rock. Not that you've read any of them. (Because if you had, you would never post such a thing, believe me.) He may be Republican, but his books are written like a Dem.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:09 AM
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88. Sarcasm is hard to express on the Internet.
I read a bunch of Bradbury some years ago. Pretty good, when he didn't get too cute.

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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:23 PM
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220. That Dora stuff was pretty sappy.
It's been a long,long time since I read Bradbury. "Stranger in a Strange Land" was pretty good.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:03 PM
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230. I didn't want to be the one to say this...
but that was Heinlein, dear.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:44 AM
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274. Hooboy! It must be the oldtimers syndrome.
Asimov, Heinlein, Bradbury...after more than 30 years...sometimes they blend. :crazy:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:00 PM
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151. Oh really?
Taken from an interview in Salon.com:

What do you think of President Bush?

He's wonderful. We needed him. Clinton is a shithead and we're glad to be rid of him. And I'm not talking about his sexual exploits. I think we have a chance to do something about education, very important. We should have done it years ago. It doesn't matter who does it -- Democrats or Republicans -- but it's long overdue. Our education system is a monstrosity. We need to go back and rebuild kindergarten and first grade and teach reading and writing to everybody, all colors, and then the whole structure of our education will change because people will know how to read and write.

You can see the rest of the interview here


Granted, the interview was taken four years ago, but I doubt his views have changed. And for a supposedly intelligent man, he was sure fooled by Bush's false platitudes about education.
Most of his "Dem" books were written a long, long time ago.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:35 PM
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194. I think it's a fake.
I've met Mr. Bradbury, and he would no more use the word 'shithead' in an interview than would Clinton. He has impeccable manners.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:08 PM
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217. Are you kidding me?
Are you actually saying that Salon posted a fake interview?

Bradbury's sounded off on Clinton on more than one occasion.
And I've met Mr. Bradbury, too. I think he would use the word 'shithead' if he felt it was the best word for the moment.
Hell, when he dedicated our university's new library, he used the word "shit" a few times in his speech. (It was more like a "talk" than anything. He sat on stage and talked to us for a while.)
But anecdotal evidence aside, I bring a posted article by a respected news organization as evidence of Bradbury's "conversion", and you dismiss it as being "a fake" because you've "met Mr. Bradbury". Puh-lease.

If you really think it's a "fake" then contact James Hibberd and tell him you think he's lying. Here's his email address: jhibberd@westword.com

(And if you don't think Clinton would swear in an interview, I've got some swampland in Northern Minnesota to sell you.)
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:33 AM
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75. Ray Bradbury is a bat-shit crazy old man
I explain his recent hardcore right-wingitude as the result of Alzheimer's and/or just good 'ol senile dementia, the same reasons why his books have sucked HUGHLY!!11 for the last 20 years.

But when RB was a younger man, he quite frankly rocked. "Martian Chronicles", "R is for Rocket", "S is for Space", "Fahrenheit 451", "Something Wicked This Way Comes"--all present liberal/progressive ideals in some fashion, and all are terrific. That guy was untouchable back in the day.

Remember, Orson Welles started his career with "War of the Worlds" and "Citizen Kane", but by the time he died he was narrating "documentaries" about UFOs and Bigfoot and goofing up card tricks as a guest host on The Mike Douglas Show. It can happen to the best of us. It happened to Ray Bradbury.



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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:00 AM
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I like that!
Bradbury was one of my favorite writers. I even got him to autograph a copy of "The Martian Chronicles" a while back.
But when I heard his elation at Bush being *ahem* "elected", it was a huge kick in the gut. He's definitely changed his politics.

"just good 'ol senile dementia"... :rofl:

:thumbsup:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:22 PM
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157. I should have read this before I said the same thing below! nt
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:28 PM
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221. It wasn't all that recent
I still remember when he was on Politically Incorrect, about ten years ago, railing against his friend Bob Packwood having to resign for harassing his secretaries. Bradbury's comment: "Who hasn't pinched their secretaries butt?"

During the "Fahrenheit 9/11" hubub, he was on a local call-in show. I was stuck in traffic, so I didn't get a chance to ask him, if he
so badly wanted his "title back" was he going to re-issue corrected
releases for "Something Wicked This Way Comes" and "I Sing the Body Electric"?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:16 PM
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244. fair enough... I was so disappointed.
It was such an outrage at the time. I can't believe he wrote F451 which was totally Orwell, oh well.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 PM
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155. My explanation: he changed.
He wrote some great stuff way back.

Then he lost his mojo, and his writing began to seriously suck. He became a loudmouth Republican at the same time.

Hey, it happens!
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:54 AM
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275. Ray!! GET OUT
I can't fathom that.. Mr. Dandelion Wine!

It's just out of sorts, but then again I guess I assumed most artists would lean toward being open and progressive. You know what they say about assuming.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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6. I'm beginning to feel that way about Woodward n/t
When I went to college in the 70s to study Journalism, I loved Woodward ... for all the obvious reasons.. or reason.

Now, my daughter is in college studying Journalism and we talk mostly of Amy Goodman.

What happened to Bob? What a dimwit he was on Larry King tonight. No insight.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:56 AM
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110. yeah, Woodward and Bernstein were heros to all of us anti-war types
but I started to lose respect for him long ago. He was no longer an investigative journalist but a Larry King.

I hope this brings him down.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:15 PM
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232. I second that. bob woodward is nothing but a whore.
I saw a bit of him with Larry King and he claimed that he was presenting objective coverage because he used the word "struggle" in a headline about the White House! He was very defensive and indignant about why anyone should suspect him of partisanship, and adamant about how the use of the word "struggle" somehow showed his reporting to be objective and not complete, shameless stenography.

People my age GOT INTO BROADCASTING TO BEGIN WITH - because they were so inspired by "Woodstein" - and the work they did and the crooks they exposed and brought down. I'm one of those who was so inspired. He and Bernstein both were heroes of mine. Now Bernstein is a solo act as far as I'm concerned. bob woodward is a whore. A sellout. He sold his soul for access because he evidently figures his "stature" entitles him to rub elbows with nothing but the finest, biggest, baddest, and most powerful. He's a modernday Faust. And he's totally tarnished. I am ashamed of him. He is a DISGRACE. I, too, hope this brings him down.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:42 AM
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Me, too! I always thought he was a hero! But I heard him on Larry King,
discussing the Valerie Plame case. He said that revealing her identity did no damage, to her or CIA cases. That did it for me, since I've been paying close attention to this since 2003, and Woodward has to know better, and certainly has to be more plugged in than I am. Larry Johnson had just said just the opposite. How could Woodward possibly say this?! He can't believe it... I yelled at the TV, and will never trust anything he has to say, ever again. What a sell-out. :-(
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:37 PM
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196. Woodward is now a self-absorbed hack with a messiah complex
I'd be disillusioned, myself. In fact, I am.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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7. Dennis Miller
You were great. Then you weren't THEN YOU GOT ALL POLITICAL ON US!


THEN! You suck SO BAD!? COULD YOU POSSIBLY SUCK MORE? NOT FUNNY ANYMORE!
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:22 AM
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33. It's one of my life's embarassments that I ever found him funny
How could I have been so incredibly misled?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:34 AM
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84. I hear you.....
I had to find forgiveness in my heart for my husband who liked him, once upon a time. I found it, but it wasn't easy... guess my hubs feels as you did.. misled.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:34 AM
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99. He was funny for a while... I was there, too, I understand...
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:47 AM
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105. he used to be really funny
sometimes he'll crack something kinda funny, like I can laugh at a good joke against Dems too, but he's such a smarmy suck up anything remotely funny that he says is killed by his persona.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #105
256. It's so sad--
that I also used to find him kind of funny. Felt very betrayed by his bushbot turn.

Really sad that I now watch the few movies he was in, and root for him to be killed some horribly, painful way.

He's an Asshat!
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:39 AM
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103. ditto! n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:57 AM
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111. he's the one on my list too. n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
158. DM got some good mileage out of being a smartass
that's about as far as his talent goes. IMO.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:02 PM
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162. No! Not fucking funny any more! Blek! IDIOT!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
167. What the hell is a rant, anyways?
/Family Guy reference
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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9. Can't even *stand* to have "Everybody Loves Raymond" on
anymore b/c of that hateful rightwing twit that plays his wife. Patricia Heaton, is it? Bllllecccccchh!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #9
20. yes but Ray, his mother, and father i believe
are liberals or left leaning.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:17 AM
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27. But that Heaton woman
is so hatefully vociferous about her "conservatism" that I can't get past it. When she's bitchy on the show, I imagine it's just her freeper self coming out and the whole imagery thing starts all over again.

Yuck!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #27
63. she bothers me as well
i used to think she was attractive, then finding out her views, makes her pretty repulsive.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #63
280. We are endlessly subjected to her commercials for Albertson's grocery...
stores here in California. You just can't get away from her on any channel.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:54 AM
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149. You took the words right out of my mouth....
I can't stand that woman.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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10. I used to think Mel Gibson was totally hot,
and some of his earlier movies, like "Gallipoli" and "The Year of Living Dangerously," were terrific, but now that he's turned into a fundie wack job I no longer crave him even slightly.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:57 PM
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12. I know me too. God Gallipoli was great...
Now... Ewwwwwww. Yuck.... your ass is not cute anymore and you are an ugly person down under
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:32 AM
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139. Gallipoli was a very affecting movie! A favorite of my father's...
Mel Gibson was so likable in his early years. Who would ever have guessed that he'd turn into a crazed Freeper?! :shrug: :crazy: :thumbsdown:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:48 AM
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44. I liked him a long time ago; forget it now, I won't see his films
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #44
257. bliss raises hand
Me too. Really liked and respected him. Have a hard time watching his stuff now.

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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:57 PM
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11. Tom Selleck. But not so much hate....as being really, really confused
:shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:01 PM
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161. And me!
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 PM
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163. Tom Selleck is a Republican...
but I never saw Him on the Bush bandwagon. I could be wrong, but there are a lot of Republicans who aren't Bush Republicans... could this be the case?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:13 PM
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281. But he did kiss Kevin Kline on the mouth in the movie "In and Out"
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:58 PM
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13. Thomas Edison
Beyond his treatment of Tesla, generally he was more concerned with his own reputation and wealth than science and invention.

MZr7
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. I know I was really disappointed
when I found out what a dick Tommy was.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #15
95. I think Edison had a Nonverbal learning disorder (NLD)
which means he had limited or nonexistent social skills - not really an excuse to be a jerk but he maybe didn't know how not to be a jerk.

Otherwise I can't stand anyone that was "seriously" listed on this thread. I don't watch Everybody loves Raymond anymore, and I don't go to movies that the rest are featured in.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:59 PM
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14. Martin Sheen
Ok, just kidding! Just seeing if you were all paying attention.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
23. Yeah and
This is what ya get for doing that :spank:

Martin Sheen...seeing if people were paying attention ;)
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. Watch it, Wetzel....
J. T wields a mean paddle. I still have bruises. :)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:49 AM
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106. I sorta like being spanked by her
:evilgrin:
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:15 AM
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131. Do ya! Do ya! :)
:spank: :spank:

:bounce:

Ah love mah spankin', so ah do ;)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:50 AM
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107. I know it was a cruel trick
:)
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #107
138. Yes...well at least you
Fessed up that it was :)
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:01 AM
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16. Loretta Lynn...my ENTIRE family was GUTTED when we
Found out Loretta Lynn was a Junior supporter. We always knew she was a Repuke...which is BIZARRE considering how poor she grew up. But it was TERRIBLE to find out she supported Junior.

Mah Grandmother just about fell in a fit.

:cry:
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:02 AM
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17. stand by your chimp
didn't know...ouch
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:07 AM
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21. Damn grew up dirt poor, "Coalminer's Daughter"
Just can't understand it at all. She just must be greedy and want trillion dollar tax cuts I suppose.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:29 AM
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38. I think a lot of poor who make it big become pugs as they want to
hang on to their money. Doesn't surprise me too much. What she forgets is that most other poor may not have her talent and can never make it big like that.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:54 AM
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48. Apparently doesn't care much for the land, either
Blasting the tops off of mountains and then fouling the creeks and rivers with tailings & debris isn't a pretty sight, not is it very healthy for the generations who have to live thereabouts.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #21
308. What about racism?
That's the most common reason for poor and formerly poor white southerners of a certain age to vote and stand with the R's.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #17
288. That wasTammy Wynette
not Lorretta! Stand By Your Man = Tammy Wynette
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:38 AM
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100. Read her second autobiography
She's actually VERY liberal in many ways, including hera attitudes toward homosexuality. She's just completely naive and uneducated in certain ways. I give her a semi-pass because of what her other beliefs are. Still, it's disheartening...
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:17 AM
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134. Will have to pick that book up then
I agree that Loretta must be naive and uneducated in some ways...afterall how could anyone be liberal in their attitude to gays and POSSIBLY support the Repukes?

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:42 AM
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142. some people don't "get" things -- they take stuff at face value
Because they would never be manipulative or lie, they think other people won't, either. My grandmother, for one. A very nice, real Christian lady. But, she loves Junior. Why? Because he's a good Christian man. Why does she think that? Because her minister tells her, and he wouldn't lie. If you bring up the reasons why he isn't a nice guy, she just says, Oh, I don't k ow about that. Those Washington people like to tear a man down. She really liked Clinton, too.... very frustrating..... it makes me wonder if Loretta Lynn is the same. A decent businesswomen, probably a nice lady, but not too intellectually "savvy."
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #142
208. It's always bizarre to me
How people have been convinced that Junior is a "good Christian man". I mean, has there EVER been a LESS "Christian" *resident than this freak of nature?

I've got two friends who are Southern Baptists and they LOVED Governor Ann Richards and they also like Dallas Mayor Laura Miller, so I know these people are actually Democrats.

Yet BOTH of them like Junior, and I said to one of them once "Why the heck do you like him? He's done nothing that's remotely Christian."

And they said: "Well my pastor says that Bush's Christianity is in his heart and that he's a good Christian."

It was like...a jaw-dropping moment. We avoid the topic completely now, they're still my friends though.

I think Loretta Lynn is a good person, but she's obviously a bit deluded and unsavvy.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:42 AM
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104. OMG.... I just threw a fit
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:23 AM by Wetzelbill
No way can I ever tell my mom this. It'd kill her.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #104
141. Oh heck
I know...but it's okay, because I know that Mr. Bill can keep a secret ;)
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
213. I've thought of another one...Andy Garcia...oh heck I was GUTTED...he's
A COMPLETE doll, he's a beautiful, sexy man...well he's put some weight on now...but say from "The Godfather Part III" up until a few years ago...Andy Garcia was delicious and debonair and sophisticated and sexy...and furry.

From "The Godfather Part III" up until a few years ago, I WOULDN'T have cared one iota that he's a Repuke...I'd have still eaten him ALL up.

Andy Garcia is definately swoonsville:

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:03 AM
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18. I Can't Help It
I still like Buddy Ebsen.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:23 AM
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34. James Garner
Loved him in The Rockford Files, hated him as a *ush apologist.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:28 AM
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37. James Garner is a Democrat
He just plays a conservative on TV.
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annarbor Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #37
175. James Garner marched with MLK...
back in the 60's. Are you sure he's a Republican now?

How heart breaking that would be!

Also, my greatest disappointment is Mama (Naomi) Judd. I have loved their music for years and it just breaks my heart to see her at every single Republican convention, supporting both Bush presidents....oh well....

Ann Arbor
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #175
222. She's an idiot -- but AShley makes up for it n/t
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #34
61. He's a HUGE Democrat. Just look here:
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/J...

Are you thinking of JAY Garner, who was Bush's Iraq "administrator" before Paul Bremer??
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:02 AM
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91. Funny, I saw him on Leno a couple of years ago
All gung ho about Iraq, along with a couple of anti-Clinton remarks.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #91
258. Are you sure it was James Garner
I've never seen him say anything positive about iraq, and he's always supported dems with his time, money, and energy. I'm fairly sure he donated to clinton ...
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #258
265. I saw Garner the night of the coronation on Leno--
It warmed my heart and cheered me up--he was so pissed! He was VERY vocal about the fact that it was a sad day for him and for our world. Wasn't a happy dude at all.

Made me feel some better, as I was so depressed all day.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:53 AM
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86. Me too!
My husband told me that the actress that played Miss Jane Hathaway ran for some office in California and that he was really mean to her. That made me so disappointed because I love both of their characters on that old show.
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Wheaty Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:03 AM
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87. she ran in Pennsylvania
She ran for congress in the 9th district in Pennsylvania in 1984 and he did attack ads for radio against her.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:39 AM
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102. He's probably a homophobe, Nancy Kulp was quite gay
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #102
124. Correct . . .
Buddy Ebsen was a HUGH homophobe!!!11111
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #124
143. That's very sad for Nancy
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:43 AM by LostinVA
Since she was on the show with him.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #143
218. It really is sad that he acted that way. She was in a lot of roles
back then where she played a great comical athletic-type lady. Kind of a trail-blazer.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 AM
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19.  I am really try ing to be politically blinded when it comes to people
Or am trying too. However ill say this as long as a celeb doesn't devalue my beliefs publically I can have a difference of opinion with him or her. That said every time I hear Ted Nuggent on the radio I want to hurl.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. that's tru, pretty much they need to be partisan
like Nugent is for the 'politics' to ruin it for me.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:18 AM
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29. True and I cant stand raymond for the acting on the show.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:19 AM by DanCa
There's so many more reasons to hate a celeb than his political persusian. Jim Carey's a dem and I hate him for what he did to the riddler.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #19
109. Nuge is a tough one to swallow
I love some of his tunes, so I just find a happy place and try not to think of what a RWer he is. :)

He and Steve Earle had a debate in Maxim last year I think. It was interesting. Steve Earle is a hardcore Dem, a really cool guy.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:12 AM
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25. I always knew John Wayne was a wingnut
and a blacklister and an overall despicable guy. But I still like John Wayne movies, can't help it.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #25
32. Ironically Liberty Vallance was his best western and wasn't it
about being a liberal?
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #32
39. Not really
at least I never saw it that way. Jimmy Stewart represented justice and the rule of law, but it was The Duke that actually shot Liberty. It was only when people thought Stewart was a badass that anyone respected or listened to him. Even years later after all he had done in life it was for the killing that he was known and revered (since he never saw fit to set the record straight). A fairly complex little tale actually.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:41 AM
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41. Man another movie I totally didn't get.
See I thought that Stewart represented liberalism and that's why he survived. Must been heavily medicated that day or I didn't watch it closely enough. But I still thnk it was the Dukes best works. Of course when you have Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart in the same picture you cant go wrong.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #41
112. It would be an honor to be beat up or shot by Lee Marvin
or Eli Wallach too. Love old-school westerns!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #25
54. It's fun to tell wingnuts that
John Wayne tried marijuana once. Drives them crazy.

TlalocW
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Skelington Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:45 PM
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211.  What made "The Duke" a wingnut? very un-cool.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:17 AM
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28. Always remember others may hate you,
but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them,
and then you destroy yourself.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:59 PM
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242. Ah, Nixon - ALWAYS quotable. He was rawther eloquent, actually.
But then again, look what we've got in there now...

Greetings, A-Schwarzenegger - good to see you making noise here again! :hi:
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:19 AM
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30. Jim Kelly
I always sort of knew that he was a trashy hick at his core -- he had a few "incidents" in his younger days with the Bills. But now I see him all over the place with Bush, George Allen (I don't know where that match comes from) and Jack Kemp.


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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:46 AM
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43. He's fucktard of the highest order...
I'll get flamed for this and don't care.... He milked his son Hunter's disease for the benefit of his own ego. Watch him run for office.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #43
60. No flames here.
I have a HUGE pet peeve when people who would normally oppose any sort of government funding at all suddenly decide to lobby on behalf of a particular cause when it hits close to home.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:09 AM
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69. He was trying to clean up his image...
because everyone in the city knew he was megalomaniacal asshole. The GOP wants him to run for office. The "compassion" toward his son is merely an attempt to sweep his behavioral skeletons back into the closet. He's an self-centered, arrogant boor.

Big deal, his old man was a machinist in Western PA and raised five boys. Had not he been a fucking football star, he'd still be there too! I love how some athletes act as if their fame and fortune in sport equates to pulling oneself up by the bootstraps. Hear that Lynn Swan?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:06 AM
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120. I hated that egomaniacle phony long before I ever knew he was a repuke
Jim Kelly is one of the main reasons I started hating the Bills when I did.

Thank god for Dan Marino and Joe Montana, who were THE class quarterbacks of those times!! Fuck John Elway, too, the spoiled brat who refused to play for the team that drafted him number one.
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alphadog Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #120
285. Hate to tell you this
But Dan Marino is a B*sh donor.

http://www.newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/Dan_...

Sorry...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:17 AM
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299. Yeah, well at least he's not a huge ASSHOLE like Jim Kelly!
Funny... he didn't win a Super Bowl either.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:20 AM
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31. "love and respect" might be stretching it- how about James Woods
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 AM by MarsThe Cat
i also used to enjoy dennis miller, bruce willis, mel gibson and ah-nold more than i do now.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:37 AM
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40. Lynn Swan
Was just thinking about this today. Loved him with the Steelers, hate him as the Pro-Bush Republican he has become. Has he no shame?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:46 AM
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42. Yeah. The "Immaculate Reception" was an unforgettable thing of beauty
sigh.

But...We'll always have Harris.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:52 AM
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46. Arnold. I used to think he was this great example of setting your sights
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:53 AM by Marr
on a goal and achieving it. He still is a great example of that- but his politics just sort of taint my view of the guy. He threw in with the worst bunch of criminals this country's ever seen.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:53 AM
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47. Phil Hendrie
Total and complete SELL OUT.

Pre-Iraq War II, he was the REAL DEAL liberal, funny and not a DICK.

Since then, he's a complete goddamn BU$Hitler ass-licker, bashes Neil Rogers EVERY chance he gets (which is ironic, cuz if it wasn't for Phil being on right after Neil when he was on WIOD in Miami, Phil would NOT be where he is now) and a sucker of Cum Channel's nasty scaley pecker.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:57 AM
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49. Isn't his show total satire???
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:58 AM by tx_dem41
All his guests are made up. The questioning is scripted for laughs.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:05 AM
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52. Yeah...It is his purpose in life to p-ss people off...I think. n/t
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:06 AM
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53. I'm talking about...
...when he does his rants and stuff. He was a total liberal pre-Iraq Redux, but once that got underway BOOM, now he's off the wingnuts deepend. From a Gore support in 2000, to saying shit like "well I WOULD vote for a Democrat if any of them were any good"! Huh?!

Lu
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #47
243. I just try to separate the on-air Phil from the other guy Phil.
I worked with him briefly before his heyday as a talk show host/provocateur. Back when he had some hair (!). He was pleasant-looking, funny, quick-witted, and easy to work with as on-air partners go. Then he went wild man.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:59 AM
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50. Lying, pathetic, piece of shit, Bob Woodward. A sellout and a Bush shill.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:07 AM by oasis
He tried to throw real journalists off of the trail of his White house buddies, but the world saw through it all.

He's a collosal disgrace and will go down in history as a tainted "journalist".

His books on Bush which gush all over the Chimperor will be dismissed as mere propaganda.

His integrity is non-existent. His honor has evaporated into the hot air he bellows in defense of the White House and his own miserable, shit stained career.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #50
116. we still have Carl Bernstein,baby!!!!!
:)
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:00 AM
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51. Jim Caviezel
loved him in "The Thin Red Line" and "Frequency."



















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verdalaven Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:27 PM
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179. Me too, and I can't watch him, but for a different reason
I hate that he is RW, but that might not have kept me from seeing his movies......this does, however.....I recently read an article in the tv guide about a character actor on the show "Ed" (?) I think, he plays the brother. Anyway, he was overweight at one time and sitting next to Cavaziel on a plane changed his life, he says, because Cavaziel asked him if he was happy being obese.

They were strangers. What kind of fricken nasty line of questioning is that? It wouldn't have changed my life or humiliated me into going on a diet, it would have pissed me off and inspired me to smack his pie hole.

Reminds me of Cloris Leachmen, who I once adored, who said all fat people should be put on a desert island somewhere so "we" (meaning the skinny people, I presume) didn't have to look at them anymore. That was circa 77 or 78, a long time ago, but still can't stand Cloris Leachman to this day.

Long story short, Cavaziel is a tool. A judgmental, narrow minded, puny ass tool that should learn some manners.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:30 AM
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305. 
but the woman is supposedly a horrible, horrible person to work with. Mean and nasty. Especially mean and nasty to the 'little people' (not the Billy Barty kind), but also difficult to work with as an actor.

Yes, the B-word is regularly deployed in description of her. This from a couple of people who have worked with her and another who knew her outside the set. Nasty B-word. In fact, the C-word would probably not be out of place in the descriptions likely to be given by some of her unfortunate costars.
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Bru Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:14 AM
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55. Curt Schilling...
I don't hate him, but it sure was annoying for him to break up the symbolic beauty of a Massachusetts team winning the WS right before the '04 election by saying, "I hope people vote Bush on Tuesday." What a killjoy.

But I assume most baseball players (who actually care about politics) are conservative. As a die-hard Blue Jays fan, I am torn over Greg Zaun, one of my favorite players but also a wingnut.

One exception is Carlos Delgado. He used to be my favorite player (and still is one of them) yet he politely refused to stand on the field during the ad nauseum propagandizing of "God Bless America" during the 7th inning stretch.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:20 AM
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58. Ditto on Schilling.
Hero to zero for me.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:12 AM
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78. Oh Jeebus, yes. Schilling was a horrible prima-donna while playing
for the Diamondbacks, so finding out he was Bush supporter (literally, it would appear) just sealed the deal for me. Also found out Luis Gonzalez was a dumb ass when he campaigned for Bush during 2004,and in a fit of disgust, threw out his Bobble head (symbolic, yet satisfying).
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:57 PM
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214. This HAS to be said - Babs is freak fucking NASTY!
Everyone who looked at her just now turned to stone.

To quote Cleetus Klump -

"Allow me to be the first to volunteer to put this old bird out of her misery!"

Ugly woman, uglier soul.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:19 PM
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219. Is that Schilling and Killer Bab's picture one of your photoshops?
Killer Bab's, Jaysus LOOK at THAT face! That face could make mirrors smash and cause small children to become psychologically scarred for life.

:scared:
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:58 PM
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284. Oh, I don't know..
...looks he got the best of Babs with the old "electrified baseball" trick!
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johnnyburma Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:15 AM
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74. Always hated Schilling.
Just moreso now.
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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:51 AM
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310. I wanted to hurt him.... badly.
He annoys me to no end anyhow with his 'gotta thank god first in every after-game interview to make a statement' attitude, but pulling that mess during one of the most euphoric times in my life... DIE!
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:59 AM
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311. me too on Shilling
You beat me to it. I was driving in the car and heard him say, "Vote for Bush" on NPR. Almost had a near-miss.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:17 AM
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56. Tom Cruise
Not because he's an insane Bush-loving Republican, but because he's a batshit crazy Scientologist who gets paid to say stupid shit on TV. And I'm sick of hearing about his manage-a-tois with him, the media, and Katie Holmes. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:06 PM
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202. I didn't know Cruise was republican
....but it might explain part of the incompatibility issues with Nicole Kidman (aside from the fact he's just plain CRAZY, scientologist or not):

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/N...

It IS possible to be in a politically mixed marriage in Hollywood, however. Bruce Boxleitner (R, big time, has been on "The Savage Nation") and Melissa Gilbert come to mind.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:03 AM
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266. I think Cruise is a Democrat
His political contributions are all to Democrats.

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/T...

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:56 PM
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295. Can't get more Democrat than Tom
Regardless of his scientology.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:43 AM
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259. Here here!
SO SICK of him! Then again, I've never liked him much--certainly didn't respect him much.

Something suspicious about a guy that seems to suck the life out of both his former wives when they were with him.

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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:27 AM
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59. John Wayne and Arnold. nt
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:48 AM
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65. Here's one that will ruin your day: Peyton Manning n/t
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:09 AM
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70. No shit??? I guess I'm gonna be rooting for the Steelers
tomorrow if you're correct...you just gave me a reason to enjoy Monday's game, thx!!!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:03 AM
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117. are you fucking kidding me!
man, that sucks.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:23 PM
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241. Not kidding -- sorry
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:49 AM
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66. Bob Woodward.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:50 AM
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67. Colin Powell
What an incredible waste. Shat on his uniform for a dumass spoiled fratboy chickenhawk punkass.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:00 AM
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115. Yep, me too
The man I thought might be our first african-american president was just another war ho'.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:02 AM
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68. Dean Koontz.. Used to read all his books
Saw him and his wife on the repug donors list..
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:07 AM
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121. I used to read Michael Crichton
never thought he was a good writer (his books read like screenplays with no character development) but they are entertaining. i started to figure out his politics when i read "disclosure". now he's on a "there's no global warming" jag. saw him on cspan speaking ar some rw think tank.
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alphadog Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:27 PM
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287. Michale Crichton is a Democrat
Check Newsmeat. All his donations are to Dems.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:16 PM
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189. You know, I just read one of his books. I'd read it before, but I got
a strong feeling he was a Republican because he called Eskimo and Native American cultures "unsophistocated." Also, the whole perspective made me uncomfortable.

There's a really funny scene from an episode of Family Guy. Brian the dog is driving the car and runs over a man on the side of the road. Brian hurriedly pulls over and rushes to the injured man.

"Oh my god, oh my god!" exclaims Brian. "Are you Stephen King?"

"No, I'm Dean Koontz."

Brian gets back in the car and runs over the man a few more times. :)

Somehow I find it even funnier now that we know that Stephen King's "Mini Me" is a MEpublican. :D :D :D :D
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:41 PM
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210.  no more Koontz for me

either n/t. he's getting preachy in his books, too. i did like two things about him: his characters were always racially diverse, and i liked when he included dogs.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:12 AM
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71. Orson Scott Card
I loved the Ender books, but everything else he's written and his personal politics are SPOOKY.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:22 PM
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190. Ditto. I was in the middle of the Ender series and now I don't want
to finish it. :( I was shocked to learn he's a Mormon. Mormons scare me.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:31 PM
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193. Me too!
I was so sad to hear - on this site - that Card was a repub. "Speaker for the Dead" has to be one of my all time fave books.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:48 PM
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199. Try living in his HOMETOWN and hearing it every WEEK.
SO irritating. He is such a prick! He writes a column for the local small repug rag and it is just always such drivel.....then he has the audacity to REVIEW MOVIES!!
WHAT an ASS!!
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:59 PM
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292. Hated OSC when I was 5
and he was dating my mom (no joke!) and was plain old Scott Card. I wouldn't talk to him. Even then I could tell he was an ass. He used to get so pissy with me because I wouldn't even look at him. I remember he took me to Reams grocery store because mom was sick and bought me bubblegum out of the machine on our way out. I put it in my mouth and he got all sarcastic and snide and said something like "You won't talk to me but you'll take candy from me?" I spit it right out on the ground. I felt like such a little 5-year-old whore.

*whew* it feels good to get that off my chest! I've been holding it in waaayyy too long.

:rant:
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:14 AM
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303. Wow! What an asshole.
I can't imagine having to put up with that kind of shit.

Thank God your mom saw the light.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:39 AM
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72. Everyone on this letter
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:54 AM
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76. Ecccccccch. Some Ohio athletes in there.
Bob Feller? BERNIE? Man. That's a damned shame.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:01 AM
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77. ERNIE BANKS?!?!? ERNIE EFFIN' BANKS??? MR. CUB???
and a black man to boot...i may be sick.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:31 AM
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83. That's the one that hit me hardest too.
None of the others really surprised me.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:08 AM
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123. Oh man, no doubt, that is a blow...
Elway too, but I think I knew that. Nolan Ryan. I think most of these people are good people, just easily spun. Lots of good people are. 80 percent of Republicans are just Dems who don't know anything. :)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:49 AM
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260. NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:cry:
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:24 AM
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81. Elway and Shanahan
Still love them, but in the way I love my bigoted uncle. Athletes in the GOP, how can anyone think they are greedy?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:16 AM
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94. Only 24 of them???
With something like 70 players per NFL team alone, not to mention coaches and staff...a big sum total of 24 sounds like a big whoop-dee-doo!!!

Sad to see Shanahan on that letter though. He was my student teacher in HS and was my Driver's Ed instructor. *sigh*
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:19 PM
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298. When I saw John on the nightly news arm and arm with *....
Iwaslike....

"NOOOOOOOOoooooooooo. NOT ELWAY! ANYONE BUT ELWAY!!! THEY GOT TO HIS FAMILY!!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!!"

I was 12 when he came to Denver. He was my childhood hero. I literally grew up with him as the face of Denver.

I was crushed. I became withdrawn. I lost my temper with everybody over everything. It seriously took me about a month to get beyond.

Now when I see him on the tele...I have to change the station.

THEY TOOK ELWAY!!! AND THEY DESERVE NO MERCY FROM US!!!
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:13 AM
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130. Karl Malone? Ack!
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:14 AM by Hamlette
Damn, this is a problem for me. I live in Salt Lake and Stockton was/is the meanest bastard. Lives in a gated community, won't sign autographs, blah blah. By comparison Karl was a sweetheart. He lived a couple of blocks from me and used to hand out the candy on Halloween (if no game) and buy lemonade from the kids who had lemonade stands. Sometimes he'd pay with a $100 and say "no change" and he'd always autograph something for them. Needless to say, our neighborhood became lemonade stand heaven.

I've never thought about his politics but in comparison to Stockton he was a 'regular' guy so I'm surprised.

Dang. I guess money corrupts some people.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:28 PM
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159. I don't know if Karl Malone supports Bush or not
But he has the stuff heroes are made of. I wouldn't change your opinion of him just yet. He definitely isn't corrupted by money.
http://sportsbybrooks.com/karlmalone.html
>>>snip
Excerpts from Malone's conversation with Roggin: "I wasn't going to just write a check, and I didn't want to go to New Orleans where all the celebrities were going (to grandstand). I wanted to go where no one was, and that's why we went to Pascagoula.

"We took six million dollars of equipment and most of the guys from my company (Malone Properties). But when we got there, they (federal officials) told us that because we wanted to work for free, we had to go home. That we needed a government ID number or a contract to haul out debris.

"I said to them, 'bullsh--', we took 30 pieces of equipment and traveled nine hours and we're going to clean up some lots before we leave. So I told them 'I'm getting on my truck, now try to get me off.' I had my security guys there and they tried to stop us but they couldn't - and we cleared 115 houses.

"Then they started to help us ... we had 46 trucks trying to keep up with us. I can't describe the scene. People were fighting over a pile of garbage."
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:34 PM
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224. yeah, see! That's the Karl we know around these parts!
but how could he have signed that letter? Waaaaa. maybe it was just a knee jerk thing. After all, Utah (although he was gone by then) voted 79% for Bush.

Imagine. 79%. Sheep.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 08:19 AM
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272. If he doesn't, it's a recent change of heart.
He was involved with numerous fund raisers for Bush, whoring himself at those expensive per plate dinners. He actively campaigned for Orrin Hatch! Orrin Hatch, how insanely republican do you have to be?
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:30 PM
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229. Bernie Kosar.
Known primarily for getting outgunned by Doug Flutie. And Flutie still suits up every week. LOVE Flutie, even though he was a Boston College QB and I'm a die-hard Fighting Irish fan.

Went to newsmeat.com, did a search, no donations listed for Flutie. I'm kinda curious, now...
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:50 PM
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237. Crap...Carlos Beltran is on that list!
It really annoys me to find out that so many MLB players are Republicans...but baseball and politics are two different things so I don't let it ruin the game for me. Wonder how he will work with Carlos Delgado, who made waves by refusing to stand for God Bless America
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:54 AM
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73. Steve Largent
Loved him as a Seahawk. Can't stand him as a right wing politician :(
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:52 AM
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263. but it was fun watching him lose the OK governor's race
(almost as fun as watching him lose to my broncos when he was still in the nfl ;))

Ah, the golden boy losing in a football-crazed wingnut state--one of the few positive political memories of my time there--priceless :D
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:14 AM
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79. Well...
Arnold, Mel Gibson, Ron Silver, Bob Woodward. Can't think of anymore right now.

Tammy

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:24 AM
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80. Dennis Miller, Colin Powell. (n/t)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:26 AM
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82. Ben Stein
I never LOVED him, but I thought he was hilariously funny.

Now I just think he's an ass.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:43 AM
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85. Used to really like....
Charlton Heston but he became too rabidly right wing.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:35 AM
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306. Ironic that some of his most famous movie roles
have him as a decidedly liberal-type character (or in a script dripping with lefty sensibility).

Holy Moses.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:10 AM
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127. oh he is an arrogant pompous clown
he says some of the most inane things ever.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:49 AM
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147. I know. I even change the channel when I see a "Clear Eyes" ad
Such a shame, because he's probably pretty intelligent.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:53 AM
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264. Ben Stein is SO disturbing!
I really wish he'd go away!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:16 AM
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89. Joe Leiberman.
Honorable Mention to (the) Dick Durbin.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:08 AM
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122. How did Dick Durbin get on your list?
I have been frustrated with Durbin (my Senator by the way) in not speaking up as much as I wanted him to from time to time, but I've heard him talk a few times about how he is constrained by his position on the Senate Intelligence Committee from speaking on some subjects. It seems that they can get in serious trouble for talking about things that they learn in the Committee, even if the things become "public" through leaks or investigative reporting. And the Repubs would love any reason to tarnish his reputation.

But I can't think of a stand he took that I had serious disagreements with.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:29 AM
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137. Maybe he'll apologize again.
Hoping it will get him off my list. But that was truly unforgivable.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:08 AM
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92. Dorothy Hamill and Mary Lou Retton
Especially Dorothy. I'm an ice skater, and I had her haircut in the '70s! :cry:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:00 AM
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114. Not Dorothy! Aw, man...
That really stinks.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:45 AM
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144. Yup, I just found that out recently myself.... sucks.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:09 AM
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93. Bill Cosby.
He's a huge disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #93
118. I'd give him some slack.
He lost a son to murder, which would have a horrible impact on any parent.

Also, many of his recent "controversial" statements are merely bringing out the issuesAfrican Americans have been debating among themselves for a long time. And there are elements of truth in what he said, even though it is not completely PC from a leftist perspective.



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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #118
169. Not completely "PC"?
I'm sorry that he lost his son, but he's only helping the Right Wing when he uses their rhetoric to criticize his own.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #93
128. I never knew that Bill Cosby was a Repuke
Dammit, I've learnt something new today.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #128
145. He's not a Republican
I don't know why he's on this list...
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:13 PM
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170. You haven't heard his famous speech?
On national television, he talked about how he "picked himself up by hiw own bootstraps", so every other Black person in the country should be able to do that, too. He may be a Dem or an Independent, but he plays a Republican on TV.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:49 PM
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172. I have heard his speech, but Cosby isn't a Republican
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:50 PM by LostinVA
And has given alot of time and money to progressive causes. I'm not an African-American, so I don't think I have a right to comment on his speech. I do know that many prominent, liberal AAs have condemned it, and many have also praised it, or at least the intention of the speech. Your opinion about his speech is completely legit, but that doesn't make Cosby a Republican, nor does it negate everything good he has done. Just like Oprah's friendship with Maria Shriver, and her allowing Arnuld to come on her show, doesn't negate all the great things she's done. And I hate that she did that. And that's something I do think I have a right to comment on.

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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #172
177. Listen to this speech, people, and decide for yourselves.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #177
209. But has he given money to the Repukes and do we have
Anything to say that he's a registered Repuke?

I've heard those comments he's made, the dirty laundry comments and stuff...but I'm not 100% that Cosby's a Repuke.

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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:16 PM
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234. If he's a repug, he's changed dramatically.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 07:16 PM by charlyvi
I still remember him letting Big Dawg play Dizzy Gillespie's horn at opne of Clinton's inauguration parties--Dem through and through!
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #209
235. No, he isn't a Republican. He just acts like one.
That's enough for me.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:06 AM
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268. No, Cosby is not a Republican. /nt
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #93
296. he campaigned for Gore here in WV
and appeared with him at 2 rallies.

he's senile, but he's no wingnut
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:30 AM
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96. Gary Sinise. nt
nt
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:51 AM
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108. Yeah. That hurts. And Robert Duvall.
The others I dismiss. Most were never worthy of our time and money anyway. But Sinise and Duvall....sad. I really can't enjoy their performances anymore. I know that's petty. But what's happening in our country is so dire that those who support this administration have become completely odious to me.

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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #108
293. Boo Radley is a dirty r-word.
That one always gets to me.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #108
307. James Woods was disappointing, too
He's extremely intelligent -- extremely -- and has some interesting things to say on a broad variety of topics, but he's obviously dumb as a brick when it comes to seeing things as they really are in the disUSA. He's still great to watch on screen but he's lately made such wacko statements (maybe he's channeling Sean Young) that it's hard not to recall them during one of his film performances.

Robert Duvall remains one of the greatest film actors of all time. Sad that he's so deluded.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:33 AM
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97. Michael Crichton
Cant say I loved him but Ive been a fan of his since "The Andromeda Strain".Now he is trying to debunk global warming.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:20 AM
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135. I liked Crichton too...it's old now but Jurassic Park was a great read
when it first came out. We knew when it was due out and lined up at the bookstore that morning to buy it. The idea sounds hackeyed now but before you'd heard anything about it, it was a great read.

If anyone knows of an article or something that refutes his book, I need it to send to my niece.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #135
282. Andromeda Strain was a good book too.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:33 AM
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98. Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, and Gloria Estefan
Seriously -- before I knew he was a phobe, Holocaust denier apologist and religious freak, I loved Gibson. Before I knew Cruise was insane, I loved some of his movies. Being a follower of iaido, I still like "The Last Samurai," I just make believe someone else is in the movie. And Gloria is a big old Freeper. Her cds went into the trash during the whole Elian debacle.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #98
146. Too late to edit: Cruise isn't a Repub, but
I don't consider him a Liberal. SCientology's teachings toward women, gays, etc. is far from Progressive.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:58 AM
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113. Malkovich nt
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:56 AM
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150. Nooooooooo!!!! This one, I refuse to believe. Ouch.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:58 AM by Kaylee
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #150
156. He threatened to shoot Michael Moore and George Galloway
Yes, he's a RWPOS. :(
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #156
180. I can't find any of his quotes on Moore. I know for sure he wants
Galloway and Robert Fisk to die.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #113
276. That's not possible
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 11:19 AM by insane_cratic_gal
I see the person who filmed being John Malkovich, might been a republican.. but not John himself?

I see the wiki has something but I think the list is way off and based on infactual info

but maybe you are right.. it doesn't add up though

Malkovich family published the Benton Evening News in Benton, Illinois, and a magazine, "Outdoor Illinois". The Malkovich family is widely acknowledged as one of the founding families of the environmental movement in Illinois

Malkovich has been based in France for many years but has recently announced he is ending his residency in that country. He and his French girlfriend, Nicoletta Peyran, have two children, Amandine and Loewy.

Malkovich caused controversy in the United Kingdom in 2002 at the Cambridge Union Society; when asked who he would most like to "fight to the death" he replied that he would rather just shoot journalist Robert Fisk and British MP George Galloway. Malkovich did not explain his reasons for choosing Fisk and Galloway other than to say that Galloway does not tell the truth. Many speculate that Fisk and Galloway have offended Malkovich with their criticism of US Middle East policy and of the state of Israel.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/1967317.stm
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #276
290. Malkovitch is a right wing nut but NOT A REPUBLICAN (he doesn't vote)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:05 AM
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119. Please don't laugh...
Mine is Rush Limbaugh. We actually used to agree on a lot of issues before my common sense got the better of me and I began to see how hollow his rhetoric really was.

Then again, that was about 10 years ago...
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #119
125. Wow, I don't blame you for not putting his name on the subject line!
Kudos for even admitting it, though!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #125
132. What can I say? Once upon a time, he was very entertaining...
...and he even had a great conversation with a Democrat who worked at Hewlett-Packard back in '94 or '95 as to what both Republicans and Democrats had to offer for America.

And I always got a guilty chuckle out of his Timber! intro that was morphed from a Jackyll song.

But, like I said, his positions began to ring hollow with me. And I didn't like the gloating tone he started taking or the way he started dealing with certain callers. Must've been the OxyContin kicking in.

But I'm here now, and I'm safe... :grouphug:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #119
133. Oh, you said RUSH LIMBAUGH
Sorry, since you didn't put it in the subject I had to do it for you. :)

Hey, RWers say lots of stuff I generally agree with too. That's because they are so vague, you know? They appeal to our superficial natural tendencies. Once you start figuring out how hollow it is then you start thinking "WTF was I on when I agreed with that guy", lol. I mean who wants to pay more taxes? Who wants our country to be regarded as weak? Who wants people living off of welfare? Who wants to be constrained by government? Nobody does. But it's all put into a hollow argument without merit. Once we start figuring things out then we get over that superficial spin and move onto other ideas. Happens to a lot of us.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #119
314. I was just going to say that myself...I used to LOVE Limbaugh
I was a teenager, and that's all my dad listened to. Bush being a fuck-up is what changed me over. That and getting out into the real world.
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:09 AM
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126. Fucking Dennis Miller
n/t
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lindac07 Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #126
136. McCain
I used to have some respect for the man, though I did not agree with his positions on many things. Then the bush puke machine went after his wife and child and he did not speak up vociferously enough. If I were his wife, I would have left him for sucking up so completely to the bush baby and even campaigning for him. I think they promised him the White House in 2008 and KKKarl Rove thrown in for good measure.

This is NOT my father's republican party. Yeah, Dad was a republican, but he would have been disgusted to see what they are up to these days.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #136
245. Welcome to DU! I once admired mccain, too, and the detail you just
mentioned is what turned me off him. I never heard him say ANYTHING about that except, during the swift boat swifties' attack on Kerry, he mentioned that he knew what it was like and that this kind of thing had happened to him. Period. That's IT as far as that subject went. I NEVER heard him defend his wife and daughter. EVER. How dare he? What were they - mere collateral damage? HORRENDOUS!!! You stand by and defend your woman and your child especially when they're noncombatants. He disgraced himself with me forever when he neglected that, and then, to add insult to injury, he whores around during the campaign hugging the asshole ON WHOSE BEHALF his own wife and daughter were smeared. Yeah, them. The ones he refused to defend from enemy fire. Bet you'd keep me just as safe, mccain...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:32 AM
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140. He's not a Republican, but -- Tony Blair.
He broke my heart.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:49 AM
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148. John Stossel and Dennis Miller
I still remember when Stossel was a consumer advicate and really anti-corporate, at least I believe he was its been so long since he sold out.

Miller, what happened to the Dennis we saw on SNL man? What happened?
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #148
185. I so agree with you about Stossel
I've tried to watch 20/20 a couple times since he got the main chair and I can't do it. His stories are too slanted to the right-wing. I had thought he was a fighter for the little people, but he sure isn't that now.
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Cynicelle Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 PM
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152. Lance Armstrong
I wanted to vomit when I saw the photos of him biking with Bush at the ranch.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #152
153. Armstrong describes himself as "left of center"
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:16 PM by wtmusic
and opposed the war in Iraq. He seems to come across as a moderate.

onedit: he also rejected right-wing calls to boycott the TDF because of France's refusal to participate in Iraq, calling them "ridiculous"


btw welcome to DU

:bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:15 PM
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154. Not too sure about Lance
his girlfriend is an active Dem.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #154
173. n active Leftie!
I doubt Sheryl Crowe would be engaged to a Bush-loving Repub.

Lance wants money for cancer research, he wants the government to do it, he knows Junior loves to fall... errr... ride his bike. I get why he did it, although I wish he hadn't felt the need to do it.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #152
240. Lance campaigned for Kerry last year. n/t
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:00 PM
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160. John McCain
He used to be the Republican tat I might actually vote for, but when he sold out and started campaigning with Bush last year... I can never respect him. He sold out to a man who spread rumors about McCain's mental faculties, spread rumors about his patriotism, spread rumors about his child, and spread rumors about his wife. I'll never understand why McCain would support this bastard - even in '03 we all knew he's the front-runner going in to '08 so he didn't need Bush's coat tails (in fact, we all knew he shuld have won the nomination in '00). For a man who is supposed to be a Maverick, independant thinking Republican, he certainly knows how to cower to the Bush Mafia.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #160
197. Ditto --- My choice as well...
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 PM
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164. Brittany Spears
I can't even get a boner over her anymore. That's sad.
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #164
215. I never loved and respected Britney
I just wanted to have sex with her.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 PM
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165. Is Dana Carvey a repuke?
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:10 PM
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168. I thought he may be
He's been friends with Bush Senior.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #168
203. I think he is too! Add him to the list. I used to like him, Sat.
Night Live and all, and he is from AZ. Hate him for his association! Birds of a feather flock together!
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:06 PM
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166. Ted Nugent
As a guitarist, I learned a lot playing along with his jams when I was a kid. I HATE his politics, though. He's been a right-wing tool for many, many years.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #166
283. Eats raw meat too, so I hear. Intensities in 10 cities
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:17 PM
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171. Buddy Ebsen and Cary Grant...
Buddy Ebsen was called in to do anti-Nancy Kulp ads when the Democratic feminist (and fellow Hillbillian) ran for office in 1984:

Nancy Jane Kulp (1921-1991) also known as Nancy Kulp; "Slim" of Pennsylvania. Born in Harrisburg, Dauphin County, Pa., August 28, 1921. Democrat. Candidate for U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania 9th District, 1984. Female. Lesbian. Professional actress, best known for her role as "Jane Hathaway"in the 1962-71 television comedy series "The Beverly Hillbillies". Died, of cancer, in Palm Desert, Riverside County, Calif., February 3, 1991. Interment at Presbyterian Cemetery, Mifflintown, Pa.
http://politicalgraveyard.com/group/gay-lesbian.html

This from the IMDB

An outspoken Republican, he helped defeat Nancy Kulp, his co-star in "The Beverly Hillbillies" (1962), in her congressional bid, in which she ran as a Democrat. Ebsen made a radio ad that accused Kulp of being too "liberal" and not good for the district. The two did not speak for years after the incident.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001171/bio


And Cary Grant opened the 1980 GOP national convention that nominated Ronald Reagan.





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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #171
174. Cary Grant: a self-loathing, semi-closeted gay and a wife abuser
Give me Gregory Peck as a real sex symbol from that era...
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #174
289. Oh yes, Gregory Peck *swoon*
He was a BEAUTIFUL man, and he was sophisticated and sexy. He was BEAUTIFUL on the inside too...he was a good Democrat.



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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:00 PM
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176. Dennis Hopper
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:35 PM
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182. yeah .. that one hurt..
Easy Rider, man!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:22 PM
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178. Norah O'Donnel
She has such beautiful eyes, but I can't stand her politics
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:35 PM
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207. agreed n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:29 PM
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181. I hold most people in passive contempt regardless of politics
You know how dumb the average person is. Half of them are dumber than that.

Global pandemic anyone?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:38 PM
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183. P.J. O'Rourke
I have all the early Harvard Lampoons and the earliest National Lampoons and I guess I thought the whole crew would stick with it..
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:41 PM
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184. Drew Carey. I never loved him, but he's a Republican so I can't stand him
now. ;)
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #184
267. Drew pissed me off--
I used to like him a lot.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:06 PM
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186. Joe Lieberman.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:07 PM
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187. ROFL!
:)
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:48 PM
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226. Off topic: I had a dream about Chicago last night.
I was sitting at a rectangle fountain with plenty of plumes that would shoot up (rather like the water at the Dorthy Chandler Pavillion in Los Angles). I've never been to Chicago (except passing through the airport) but I dream of it now and then and it's always in the same place and it isn't windy but warm. The tall buildings glitter with their lights.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:11 PM
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188. Kelsey Grammer, Arnold, Mel Gibson.
OK, Mel isn't an insane Republican. He's an insane religionist.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #188
192. Alas. Sideshow Bob.
My favorite "Simpsons" villain.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:13 AM
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278. I love Bob!
'Frazier' was a funny show.

It seems alcoholic coke heads stick together.

:-(
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:24 PM
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191. Dennis Hopper
Easy Rider back when and now to find he is a dubya supporter? :puke:

I also heard he asked to go to 2nd inauguration and got turned down?
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:36 PM
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195. John McCain....
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:46 PM
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198. Tim Robbins
just kidding

:hide:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:57 PM
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201. Bwahahaha
"Made you look!"
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:21 AM
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255. made me look twice
:think:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:55 PM
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200. Dean Cain, Dixie Carter, Emily Procter (CSI Miami) and the heartbreaker
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 04:11 PM by DesertedRose
is Robert Duvall. You'd think after his making "Handmaid's Tale" some bells and whistles would go off, sheesh.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:28 PM
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204. Alice Fucking Cooper!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:03 PM
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231. Yeah, but...
Ol' Vince has always been a Republican, an avid golfer (my sister would kill me for harping on that) and a drunk. Sounds like traditional Republican values to me.

I still like his (stupid) music.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:32 PM
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246. Sorry, but I hate him now and won't listen to his shit ever again!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:29 PM
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205. many country singers
I used to love the whole industry but now i loath it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:32 PM
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206. Another pathetic....we have become them post....
While I can understand not wishing to contribute money to an artist you disagree with, what is up with the hate BS?

The melding of political and social spheres has consequences, as the numerous threads here about losing a friend or family member over politics can attest. Granted Duers will likely be more susceptible, but this is silly BS chest puffing similar to freeper black lists.

If one stops enjoying a movie or TV show because an actor from there has divergent political views, well that's just plain sad.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:34 PM
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223. Sometimes Rinsd...its ALL about the HATE.
:eyes:


Good to see you posting. Great post by the way.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:48 PM
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225. I unplugged for Thanksgiving....
9 days where I barely opened a newspaper, let alone get online.

It was great...except now I have a horrible cold....stupid airplanes and their recycled air.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:50 PM
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227. Sounds like heaven.....
except for the cold part. Good to see you back.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:06 PM
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228. Glad to be back...sort of.
Always good to see you around. I hope your Thanksgiving was pleasant.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:14 PM
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294. Blaeyuk! Who here could honestly enjoy a movie or TV crap when they
know the person they are watching still clings to destroying our country? No I said the black sheep. Hate em and all they stand for! And that is that!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:46 PM
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212. Help me find a way to gently tell my 7 year old daughter that Hillary Duff
holds political beliefs that are even more odious than her music.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:49 AM
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251. I don't know, but same thing with alot of them...
Buy her a Kanye West CD..
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:06 PM
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216. Not love, but respect: Penn and Teller
We need more skeptics, because there's a lot of crap out there that people fall for. But they fell for the biggest pile of it of all - that a world without laws and where one's worth is measured by one's wallet is a world we want to live in.

I don't know if they're bushbots, but they are Libertarians, and they have a tendency to slant facts to fit their own beliefs. Sad, really. You'd think skeptics would be better informed.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:38 PM
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236. Penn and Teller support many progressive goals and are NOT Republican
They support the ACLU and have worked against the Patriot Act. See <http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/06/14.html#a3444 >.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:52 PM
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239. No, not republican.
Libertarian-Objectivist, which, in my mind, can be worse.

They support a world where the market rules, a world of privatization instead of community owned utilities and services (i.e. the Pay for Service Fire Department, every road a toll road, where the only community support safety nets are the privately funded ones). Those things are not a reasonable part of the world any of us want to live in... because that world is not viable.

One doesn't have to be Rethuglican to be scary.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:47 AM
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250. Precisely! Like South Park logic...
Sucks ass!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:55 AM
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279. Read the OP. It's about famous Bush loving insane Republicans. Do I agree
with everything Penn and Teller espouse? Hell no. But that isn't the question. They are (1) Bush critics and (2) not Republicans. So they don't really fall within the scope of "famous people you use to love and respect but now YOU HATE because they are Bush loving insane Republicans."

While you may disagree with Penn and Teller, I certainly do, I'll happily have them on my side (instead of fighting against me) on issues like civil rights and liberties, privacy, the separation of church and state, government censorship, etc.

I'm not a libertarian so I don't expect to share common ground on every issue with every libertarian, but I recognize that many libertarians have as many complaints about Bush as I have.
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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:05 AM
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313. Yep. The only real things they have going for them are:
1. They normally are anti-war, mind your own business, stay out of my private life types.
2. They're all about science.


Everything else is social darwinistic BULLSHIT. ;)
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:46 AM
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249. except environmentalism, organic food, spitual practices such as
feng suie and Chi gung and Reki. And those polemics cum proofs are crap!

Like FAT SHITHEAD WISEGUYS have ANY IDEA what is legitimate and what isn't. They portrayed organic food people as lunatic hippies and its just not true. They completely ignored the fact that genetic engineered food is totally untested. They piss me off.


If their DEMOCRAtS, I may hafta switch Penn alone might eat me! sorry that was low. FUCK HIM ASSHOLE! Can't sue for swearing DICKWEED!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:15 PM
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233. Tony Blair!!!
I actually thought he was a Socialist once....
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:51 PM
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238. James Woods, because he's smart enough to know better.
Woods on Fire
By Amy Reiter
Salon.com | August 1, 2003
<snip>
Woods insists he'd prefer not to talk about politics -- "Do you think I want to be the one lone voice against the Hollywood liberal establishment? It's not going to do me any good."
<snip>

:puke: >>>>>Asshole<<<<< :puke:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:01 AM
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312. Geez I love how he's "not talking about politics" there
I'd talk about what a mediocre actor and sexist prick James Woods is but...nah not worth it.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:26 AM
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247. I forgot Colin Quinn.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 12:27 AM by bezdomny
He was quite funny on that game show on MTV whose name I can't remember but I think had Ben Stiller too.

Now I realize he's just a cretin.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:19 AM
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271. Remote Control?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:31 AM
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248. Imus



I just can't figure him out, so I don't try.


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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:19 AM
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254. Dennis Hopper
I'm sorry I just can't get over it ...

still STUNNED
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:52 AM
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262. You didn't know he was a Freeper?
I only recently learned of this, too--so I understand your shock.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:50 AM
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261. I used to love and respect Oprah--
can't stand her now.

She betrayed Dems, women and Californians, by having Arnie on her show WITHOUT even giving the same platform to Gov. Grey Davis. She sold women out again by making some dumb ass statements to NOT believe the stuff about Arnold that came out about him being the sexist, groping asshole that he is.

She betrayed us ALL when she had * on her show.

I used to think she was caring and concerned and trying to make a difference in the world. I now see her as greedy, self serving, narcissistic, insecure, pretentious asshole who now believes her own press.

If you like her--good for you. For the purpose of this thread, I'm entitled to dislike her--no flames please.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:14 AM
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269. I know she gives to many Dem causes
or so I've read on this board. I don't care--don't like her anymore.

Someone that gives to the Dems, shouldn't have repukes on their show. Period. She betrayed us all...
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 08:22 AM
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273. None.
I don't hate. Anyone. Hate is unproductive.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:10 AM
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277. A Quote from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.:
"Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true."
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:24 PM
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286. Dean Cain
:cry:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:10 PM
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297. Well, I can't say I "respected" him
but I used to LOVE Ted Nugent. I think I saw him in concert about 20 times back in the 70's when I was young and he was a big deal! Now I regret that I ever spent money on tickets to see that asshole and his music sucks to me now, too.

There are others, but he was the biggest disappointment because I worshipped him in my youth.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:50 AM
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309. Kelsey Grammer
I used to really love Fraser but the last couple of seasons were ruined for me. x(
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