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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:19 AM Original message |
Anyone watching this DLC thing on CSPAN with Gary Hart? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'll watch it for five minutes. Five. n/t |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. It will be interesting to see if the Democrats swept up in the Abramhof |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. There ARE No "Democrats swept up in the Abramhof" Scandal. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Y.E.T. |
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RSchewe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Harry Reid is supposedly connected somehow. I am not sure to what extent. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
73. This is the new Republican rebuttal.... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
64. Some people here |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Growing the private economy is the way you achieve |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:40 AM Original message |
When he says it , we're not included |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. But, when Al From talks code to corporations, we are? |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 07:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. sfexpat2000, I think you're going to like ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. That's great, Neil, I look forward to it. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Reconnect the party with mainstream values! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. Reconnect with the ethic of civic responsibility = |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. We need trigger happy Presidents! |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. We need Al Gore!! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. I find it interesting that they refer to the modernization of the |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Because " Modernization " is usually used in place of Assimilation |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:40 AM Original message |
The use of the term "Democrat party" at a supposed Democratic Party |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. Ain't no Democrat gonna call it the Democrat party!! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 07:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I don't know because I was listening to it as I was working in |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 07:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. that words does to me what the n and c words do to ... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 08:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I have the same reaction. This is why I distrust the DLC |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Al From walks like Porky Pig. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The use of the term "Democrat party" at a supposed Democratic Party |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Sure. They want to "modernize" by repudiating the New Deal. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. They've rewritten the Bible, and the Constitution, why leave the Dictionary |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Exactly. n/t |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Oh of course |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. I did till I got irritated with them and turned it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
14. Okay, that's enough. These people are not connected to reality. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Al got ripped off first, now we've become indoctrinated to Kkkarls logic |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
22. Look - the world outside the West will have an economy 10 times |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Crap. A world of Super Wallyworlds, MickeyDs, and |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I agree completely that the education system has to be top notch. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. That's not the reality of it though. Cell phones in Africa have |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Are you saying there should be no trade? OR just trade that favors the |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You are spouting the same false dichotomy |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Don't you think that the moderates want your kids in industries & jobs |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 05:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. How exactly do these hi-tech industries use less oil? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Because with intellectual property rights you can say to China - "you |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 05:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Still doesn't use less oil...still depletes that resource in the |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I am not DLC. I am Canadian. We sell resources and that - unfortunately |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 06:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Shopping online does not save gas. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Do you think that when you buy a book from Amazon that it comes from |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. So why should I pay a middleman to deliver a book to my |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 07:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yes but unless you take the bus - getting that book to your as some |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. In the US, we have a whole government hell bent on |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:36 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. When oil goes you will not be able to afford too much stuff. I understand |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #62 |
74. So, as a Canadian, what is your interest in a |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Cause I want you to have a say in what world trade looks like. And |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. My vote here will not be for free trade, but for fair trade. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Just don't let them have the monopoly on the good things that will |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. That's a seperate issue. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Modern day serfs? Yes there should be laws instituting work weeks |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 05:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Free Trade will not lead to Freedom.... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. No- the plan is to move manufacturing of goods that take alot of |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Quick thinking, but I see a different future..... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Robots will be expensive to run. People will stop going to the big |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You could be a freight forwarder in Texas and be moving freight |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Your koolaid tastes good, but reality dawns.... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. They'll turn away from Wal mart when they can get their tunes online. When |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 06:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. You make it sound so nice.... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 06:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I think you are the one who makes it sound so nice. People being |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. I understand that hydrogen doesn't come out of the ground.... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Isn't the amount of H20 on the planet supposed to be a constant? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. When the hydrogen is burned it converts back to water..... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:13 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. People will never turn off burgers |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. They'll find a way to make fat out of nano-technologie and we will |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. Is the DLC a front group for Corporations/Neocons? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. No they are not alike at all. Third Wayers do not want hegemoney |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Third Wayers inadvertanrly reinforce NeoCONS |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Don't you think the anit-free traders give the neocons authority by |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Alternative have often been proposed |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. So the USA wants to undo the free trade agreement with CANADA? |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. that just isn't true!!! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. People in poor countries have a hard time opening business and the |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
68. There's a dofference between supporting democratic reform and imposing it |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. But some line of of laws will help. But I agree - not the strict neocon |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. We can support those values better on a country-by-country basis |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I agree with much of what you say. In China though - who are you to |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Who is Wal Mart to say those farmers shouldn;t have better options? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I agree we can do better on global trade. And going from subsistance |
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