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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:35 PM
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Where is the Native American Holocaust Museum?
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 09:40 PM by StellaBlue
And what day do we commemorate it, again? November 11? May 26? December 29?
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:36 PM
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1. Damn good question! n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:37 PM
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2. In South Dakota
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:01 PM
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11. That's a great website!
Very well designed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:05 PM
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12. Cool place too
But 50 miles south of there is the sight of the Wounded Knee massacre. It is a must stop on any trip to South Dakota.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:38 PM
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3. Drive through Navajo Country.... it is the closest you'll get.
That I know of anyway.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:11 PM
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17. I love the rez.
I'm a white guy from east coast suburbia. I have never felt more at home in my heart than when I was on the reservation. Let me explain.

The mood of this thread makes us all hang our heads in shame. The indians(they pref ere to be called indians, I asked) were horribly mistreated. They were mistreated from the first treaty, to the latest piece of legislation that passed into law. But they remain a proud and humble people that will still be the Navajo long after we are gone(shades of Iraq).

The reservation is a museum. The poverty and desolation are on display every day. The land is poor and can't support large heards or cash crops. It's subsistence living, always has been, There are no Mc'hogans.

I had the pleasure of working on the reservation. I worked hard in the day and got to see the stars at night.

I could speak volumes more but i'm tired and need to get some sleep.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:09 AM
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19. I grew up w/ kids from the rez.
A few are already dead, all but one are in deep poverty. The ones I grew up with had left the rez, their parents had taken public utility jobs. The ones I know that are still on the rez are very poor by our standards, but most are happier than 95% of out here in Los Altos ( highest property values in the country per CNN)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:38 PM
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4. We certainly need one don't we? Who will build it though?
There would be no holocaust museums if the Jews, who survived, had not built them themselves. I think maybe we as Americans of whatever ethnicity can do better than that, as well as a slave museum.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:39 PM
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5. millions were eliminated so that Europeans could invade
amazingly many Americans are still in denial -- even some at DU.

Just wait . . . they will come out of the wood work . . . soon.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:55 PM
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9. No, we were not very considerate of our native population.
Every time we start telling another country how to deal with their domestic business, I wonder -- Who are WE to tell anyone how to run their country.
When we talk about the human rights violations in China -- Who are WE to tell the Chinese how to run their country?
When South Africa was suffering from Apartheid -- Who are WE to tell the South Africans how to run their country?
When we were enforcing the sanctions on Saddam -- Who are WE to tell Saddam what is right for Iraq?

We killed the native population for sport, we practiced germ warfare on them, we rounded them up and herded them to desolate lands where we kept them on reservations. We made treaties with them and quickly and quietly broke the treaties. Who spoke up for them? Who has protected their rights.

Our native population is a valuable asset to this country. We should take better care of our treasure and help them retain their identity and culture and pride.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:00 PM
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10. You're absolutely correct
One of the reasons the U.S. waited 30 years after WWII to sign the UN conventions on genocide was the fear that Native Americans had a very good case for charging the U.S. government with perpetrating genocide. It didn't happen until Jimmy Carter was president.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:16 PM
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18. Great post V!!!!
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:40 PM
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6. Could have one in every state
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 09:40 PM by ismnotwasm
Really. It won't happen, but it should.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:51 PM
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7. I have a friend at work... who is partly native American... and he
gives me the bs about the alpha male, bush protects you, somebody's got to do it... crap crap and more crap... sometimes he gets me to a rather high level of shall we say... projecting my knowledge and vocal abilities.

I told him, you more than anyone else, because of your heritage should be apalled at what is going on "over there" and he finally did break down and realize just where I was coming from... I know that if I showed him the video from Fallujah it would be all over.. but I can't bring myself to do it. Let's suffice it to say that I have a great fondness for the culture of the native American and I wish I had more interaction with them.

When I was growing up in WNY, I did spend a great deal of time with native Americans (dare I say it in the local pub) and got to be quite close to several native Americans.

One weekend, I gave a ride home to a friend, he thanked me for the ride home.... showed me his gun a 30/30 lever action.... very nice.

A week later I asked hey, where's junior? Well, junior turned his gun on himself and that was that. I couldn't believe what I was hearing..... such a shame, such a waste.

I miss those simpler days, the not knowing, however the vietnam conflagration was in full swing... I was not all that much into it as young as I was.... anyhoo...

I just wanted to share that I feel that there should be a memorial to a lost way of life that was in tune with the world instead of on a collision course with it as it seems to be today.... the native Americans had it going on imho, both spiritually and physically. Damn our ability to squash whatever gets in our frigging way. Dammit to hell.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:54 PM
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8. Trail of Tears National Historic Trail
We do have some of these things, they just don't get the notoriety that they should.

http://www.thingstodo.com/states/NC/nationalparks/trailoftears.html
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:06 PM
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13. I did a little NA pilgrimage solo this year
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 10:07 PM by riverwalker
even though I am 100% norwegian, I felt I had to. The Red Lake tragedy so close to home started me thinking about how little I knew.
Went to Pipestone first, then South Dakota, Bear Butte, Harney Peak, up to Custer Battle Field in Montana, then down to the Medicine Wheel in Big Horn Wyoming. Then through Pine Ridge and Rosebud. Last stop was down to Ft. Robinson Nebraska where Crazy Horse was killed. I left some tobacco at each place. Every time I started to think "what the hell am I doing this for?" I would see an eagle, a good omen. ;)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:09 PM
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14. before we build a museum we should try to settle
our accounts with them in an honorable way. We can't even account for the money we were supposedly keeping in trust from their mineral rights.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:14 PM
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15. Thanks To Casinos NDN's Are Coming Back!
Not only financially but they are begining to get on the political bandwagon, thanks to the efforts of Native Voter. Check out my site at http://www.nativeunity.blogspot.com
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:22 PM
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16. On 4th st and Independence in DC...
The Smithsonian just opened a new museum there. I hear it's very good.
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