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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:20 AM
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Falwell, Robertson, and Monaghan religious law schools having impact?
In LBN there is a thread about the evangelicals suing the University of California for discrimination against religious schools. I had a thread on this, but everytime I post in LBN I do something wrong and get locked or have a dupe. I don't see the other so here is mine, and I will then post why this is happening and will keep on doing so.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1938754

Ok, here is the scary part, in an article from NPR. I will post what I had written up here.

Wow, my goodness...looks like the Christian law schools Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell founded are going strong. Take a look at the NPR article on these schools.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4632072

Regent University School of Law: Founded by televangelist Pat Robertson, Regent University School of Law was established in 1986 as a full-time, three-year law program. It gained full accreditation from the American Bar Association (ABA) in 1996 -- the first religiously conservative law school to do so. Today, 500 students attend the school. Students come from 44 states, over 413 colleges and universities and numerous foreign countries.

"The number one distinction in our school is teaching from a religious perspective; faith impacts what we do in the classrooms." -- Dean Jeff Brauch


And there's more from Jerry's school and from Ave Maria school founded by Monaghan.


Liberty University School of Law: Televangelist Jerry Falwell founded Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., in 1971 as a fundamentalist Baptist university. The law school welcomed its first students in the fall of 2004 and is working towards provisional accreditation from the ABA. Currently, 56 students from 22 states and one foreign country (India) attend the school.

"Liberty University School of Law is founded upon the premise that there is an integral relationship between faith and reason, and that both have their origin in the Triune God." -- Liberty's Web site

Ave Maria School of Law: Located in Anne Arbor, Mich., Ave Maria School of Law opened its doors in 2000. The school was founded by devout Catholic Thomas S. Monaghan, founder of Domino's Pizza. Students from 43 states and 125 universities enrolled for the 2004-2005 school year. On May 2, 2005, the ABA gave a recommendation of full accreditation to Ave Maria School of Law. The school will receive final word from the ABA in August 2005


I think Monaghan was planning to build a city in Florida called Ave Maria...don't know how far along that is.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:01 AM
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1. Monaghan is also the sugar daddy to the Thomas More Law Center
Take a look.

http://www.thomasmore.org/about.html

About Us

The Thomas More Law Center is a not-for-profit public interest law firm dedicated to the defense and promotion of the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life. Our purpose is to be the sword and shield for people of faith, providing legal representation without charge to defend and protect Christians and their religious beliefs in the public square. We achieve this goal principally through litigation, seeking out significant cases, consistent with our mission, where our expertise can be of service to others. We also defend and promote faith and family through media and educational efforts. Above all, the lawyers of the Thomas More Center seek to meet the highest moral and ethical standards of our Christian faith and our legal profession.

Our ministry was inspired by the recognition that the issues of the cultural war being waged across America, issues such as abortion, pornography, school prayer, and the removal of the Ten Commandments from municipal and school buildings, are not being decided by elected legislatures, but by the courts.

These court decisions, largely insulated from the democratic process, have been inordinately influenced by legal advocacy groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) which seek to systematically subvert the religious and moral foundations of our nation. Recent examples of the federal courts’ pivotal role in the cultural war are the cases of Stenberg v. Carhart in which the U.S. Supreme Court held Nebraska’s ban on partial birth abortion unconstitutional, in effect nullifying similar bans in 30 other states and Santa Fe Independent School District v. Doe which prohibited students from leading stadium crowds in prayer before high school football games.
 
 

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:18 AM
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2. Geez, look at that group's issues page...very upsetting.
http://www.thomasmore.org/issues.html


Defending the Religious Freedom of Christians News Resources
Equal Access in Public Schools (Christian/Bible Clubs)
Christmas Celebrations, Displays, Messages
National Motto
Pledge of Allegiance
Ten Commandments Displays
Free Speech Rights of Christian Students
School Prayer
Public Religious Displays
School Vouchers

Restoring Time-Honored Family Values News Resources
Defending the Traditional Family
Challenging Special Rights for Homosexuals
Protecting Children and Families from Pornography
Equal Rights for Homeschoolers
Security of Families
Block Efforts to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage

Protecting the Sanctity of Human Life News Resources
Pro-Life Demonstrations
Abortion Counseling
Crisis Pregnancy Centers
Pro-Life Clothing
Free Speech
Euthanasia
Physician Assisted Suicide
Pro-Life Displays
Legal Challenges to Roe v. Wade
Cloning
Right of Conscience
Defending Ban’s on Partial Birth Abortion
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:04 AM
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5. "Free Speech Rights of Christian Students"
This is to allow evangelizing to and beyond the point of harassment, I think.

(also implied: none for you, you Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, mainstream Christians, atheists.. or any of the rest of you UNGODLY.. HELL BOUND SINNERS!)
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:48 AM
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3. No surprise to me. . .
the typical theocrat's laundry list of legal issues. . .which often have less to do with "defending" someone's faith and much more to do with imposing theirs on others. . .while demanding and creating more special rights for their "lifestyle" CHOICE.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:43 AM
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4. First, the guy ruins pizza. Then, the nation?
Great.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 03:39 PM
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6. They use World Net Daily as a legitimate news source
http://www.thomasmore.org/newsroom.html

Top News Stories    View All

Pope sides with 'intelligent design' advocates
Sun, Nov 13, 2005
Pope says universe was created by an 'intelligent project'
San Diego Union Tribune
San Diego to appeal cross decision
World Net Daily
San Diego to appeal cross decision - Judge nullified citizens' 75% vote to maintain landmark
Thu, Nov 10, 2005
Closing Arguments Made in Trial on Intelligent Design
New York Times
Expert testifies on 'Intelligent design'
Fort Worth Star Telegram
'Intelligent design' advocate questions criticism
Washington Observer Reporter
Intelligent designer - The chief defender of intelligent design in the Dover evolution trial insists he has science and God on his side.
Thu, Oct 20, 2005
Thomas More Law Center Defends Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act In Supreme Court
Thu, Oct 20, 2005
Appeals court hears 'Islamic indoctrination' case
World Net Daily


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Atheist Sues to Remove 'In God We Trust' From Currency
Fri, Nov 18, 2005
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Fri, Nov 18, 2005
House Urges Ninth Circuit to Rehear Sex Survey Case
Fri, Nov 18, 2005
 
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 03:42 PM
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7. What does an omnipotent deity need with lawyers?
Can't he do anything he wants?

On the other hand, asking what does a greedy cult need with lawyers...will get you closer to a useful answer.
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